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    Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  Guest on Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:08 pm

    Original posts were made in time interval Mar 20 2010, 05:33 PM - Mar 31 2010, 07:59 AM - GMT + 1 timezone

    This is a revised version but the original "scripture" (cyan text) remains intact. There have also been some changes made in comparison to the mists forum....the changes are the removing of word censorship and commentary censorship.



    At one point in the history of the universe...there was a thing... Thing looked around and saw that there are many more other things. Some things were different, some things were the same...some similar...all those things. In time things were put together and new things came to be... thing upon thing = thing.... Things interacted with other things. Since things are just things all they do is things. At one point in the universe one of those things...which was a thing....had the following conversation with another thing...

    A story of a fact that can not be changed?
    A story of a truth that can not be broken?
    A story of a promise that was never made?

    A story of a game....too long played.....


    Q: Hei God, how is life?
    A: You are asking me?




    Here we have a "rush" start. No real explanation is given of how a thing would come up with a term such as "God" or anything like it...or how to even begin thinking about calling upon one...




    Q:Yes I am asking you...
    A:Life is your problem, to know and to figure it out

    Q:What the fuck?
    A:You were sent down there...don't you remember....you signed up for this game

    Q:I do not remember. Why a why would I do that?
    A:I divided myself, I messed up some things...unbalance came to be...shift happened...you know...

    Q:Mother fucker, why you little...
    A:Now now my darling, it is all included in the co(s)mic laws...you should read that some time you know...

    Q:But the universe and imbalance, it is your creation, your responsibility, you are omnipotent, you should fix it...just snap the fingers
    A:But than I would have nothing to do, nothing to watch....I would one and bored like before...stop being selfish and play my little game

    Q:Me, selfish? God damn you!
    A:I have already damned myself...got bored of it so I stopped, now you be a good little creation and entertain me

    Q:This is not fair
    A:I know

    Q:I hate you
    A:It is a start...




    This is the first "confrontation"...one of the things...doing every day things...once did something it has never done before. It searched for itself, trying to justify itself. The input is provided. Source unknown. All we know is the mentioning of "God". It could also be "Popaj" or anything else. Thing is very unhappy with the way things are and wants to change it but is hesitant since it does not know why changing things has to be so hard on it. It initially rejects the input.





    Q:So now what
    A:The rules of the game is that you learn, with learning comes responsibility, with responsibility comes the ability

    Q:And what if I don't want to?
    A:I will make you suffer and when you will suffer enough you will learn that it does not have to be this way...

    Q:Why not just skip the game?
    A:We have been through this before...

    Q:Let us go through it again
    A:No

    Q:Why not?
    A:Cos I said so

    Q:Good than I am not playing your stupid game
    A:You will be sorry for that, I will make you suffer the eternity of 3D life until you "realize" your "mistakes" and awake to MY "truth"

    Q:I thank you for you "love".... Pray to yourself that we never meet
    A:Ou temper temper

    Q:Why all of this, why am i a thing and all other things doing things?
    A:It is all defined in omni science

    Q:And that would be???
    A:X-Z Re*gravitational constant - square root of tachyon particle density = X squared derivation of the given temporal flux

    X - star density given the local black hole gravitational pull
    Z - approximated variation of the zeta particles for each unpredictable random celestial occurrence
    Re - berlinghoff constant

    rest should be self explanatory

    Q:Oh, so I see
    A:No you don't

    Q:Yes, I DO
    A:Whatever




    More sense is needed, clarification required. Input responds...it provides the rules. Although threatened, thing refuses to submit.




    Q:What kind of God you are?
    A:What kind of God do you want me to be?

    Q:Cute, long legged, long hair, shaved body, slim, open minded ,intelligent female with unstoppable sexual drive
    A:You see this is why we have problems, I knew I should not create the lower chakras

    Q:Wot?
    A:Give yourself five minutes and than come back to talk with me

    Q: Fuck you, i don't need your shit, fuck off and piss off
    A:Does that turn you on? You should really work on you inner self you know


    Q:Lower chakras?
    A:A flaw in the plan...gets me off sometimes...but does not serve you best in the long run

    Q:So another one of your screw ups that I volunteered to help to fix?
    A.Indeed

    Q:Oh this is just terrific...just does not get any batter...what else am i suppose to do....
    A:Remember your true origin, save humanity, in-vision new reality, be the hero of the day and make me look good

    Q:Ok this is it...which button do I press to turn you off....
    A:..................

    A:You can not turn me of. I am ever present, all knowing and all seeing God, I am in you, I am you
    Q:Cut the bullshit

    A:Slice it or dice it?
    Q:I am not you, I am not some irresponsible, misbehaved, omnipotent asshole with a problem of feeling all alone in the universe

    A:True, you are an asshole feeling alone on the thing you live on. Small mind, small world a?
    Q:Oh so this is how it is going to be? An argument.

    A:You started it
    Q:No you started did

    A:I did not
    Q:Yes you did

    Q:I want to stop this
    A:Done

    Q:Really?
    A:Yes

    Q:How
    A:The power of your free will

    Q:I have free will?
    A:Sure

    Q:Great, my will is for all of this end
    A:It is not that...free

    Q:What do you mean?
    A:You may not do, what you can not do

    Q:Can I make you go away
    A:No

    Q:But i do not want this, i do not want any of this...it is...
    A:This is getting pretty boring pretty fast

    Q:Ok...let us all pretend you have a point
    A:No need to pretend, I do have a point

    Q:Can you let me finish?
    A:Sure, just let yourself to finish

    Q:So let us all pretend this can work....now what
    A:Now you go and sacrifice five goats and your virgin preteen daughter to me

    Q:Seriously?
    A:No

    Q:Why not, what is all this?
    A:You idiot, I am you...no need to praise yourself...more than you already do

    Q:Than what do I do?
    A:You decide

    Q:I get to decide?
    A:You get to decide




    Disappointed as it can be, the thing tries to "see" and is at that point faced with doubts and fears. A hint is also provided, input suggests thing is somewhat not what it appears to be and has the power to change things by simply wanting them to.




    Q:I get to decide?
    A:You get to decide

    Q:You are just saying that to make me feel good aren't you?
    A:Yes

    Q:You dog...
    A:Correct

    Q:What?
    A:Nothin..

    Q:Can I get a time off
    A:Getting yourself off again?

    Q:No, I just need some time..for myself
    A:You have all the time in the world

    Q:Can you ever give a straight answer?
    A:Can you ask me a straight question?

    Q:I did
    A:No you did not

    Q:Yes I did
    A:No you did not

    Q:You are a moron
    A:Do not call yourself like that, hurts self image




    Disillusioned and afraid the thing resorts to anger.



    Q:Thx for the psych evaluation
    A:No problem

    Q:Yea...the free ones are always the best...
    A:Deflecting again are we?

    Q:What is your problem?
    A:My mother caught me masturbating

    Q:Ok..just who is deflecting right now?
    A:You are

    Q:No I am not
    A:Yes you are

    Q:I DO NOT...
    A:Sissy

    Q:Aha you see, that than also makes you one
    A: I am what you want me to be

    Q:I want you to shut up
    A:You will have to work hard on this one

    Q:What is all this...
    A:It is your Matrix 3D thinking

    Q:A wahat?
    A:Lizards in 4D are telepathically connected with their hybrid bloodline in 3D which is telling you who you are, what to think and why to think it

    Q:What about warp drive, where is the warp drive in this story?
    A:You see...here you go again...

    Q:I demand that you stop toying with my mind
    A:Sure...just stop toying with your mind and it will happen

    Q:No, not me...you
    A:Are we going in circles here?




    Circles indeed. Input suggests thing needs to get a hold on it. There is something "strange" thing can not figure out - him being in charge.




    Q:Well great...I ll just go and hang myself...
    A:Coward

    Q:I am ignoring you
    A:Ok

    Q:.......
    A:.......

    Q:......
    A:.......

    Q:khm.......
    A:..........

    Q:..........
    A:.........

    Q:.........
    A:........

    Q:Fuck it, no lizard is telling me what to do
    A:Ignore off?

    Q:The only propaganda is your propaganda, the only one telling me what to do is you
    A:Did someone power up the higher brain functions?

    Q:Yea, yea sure..."funny" guy...
    A:I do like to oblige

    Q:You see, you are not really here
    A:I am no really here

    Q:You are made up as I go
    A:I am made up as I go

    Q:Is there an echo in here?
    A:No, just you




    A very close realization ending in failure...once again the the "pride" (fear of change) takes over.




    Q:Ok, funny guy...tell me, what is the meaning of life?
    A:You have to say the magic words first

    Q:What magic words?
    A:Well you know, the magic words

    Q:That words?
    A:Yes that words?

    Q:I am not saying that
    A:Yes you are

    Q:No I am not
    A:Yes you will

    Q:..........
    A:..........

    Q:Ok...
    A:Yeeees?

    Q:...khm....love and light
    A:What was that...?

    Q:love and light...LOVE and LIGHT...aaaaaa
    A:The meaning of life is Love and Light

    Q:No it is not
    A:Yes it is

    Q:How do you know?
    A:I know a guy, that knows a guy, that knows it

    Q:How do you know a guy that knows a guy that knows it?
    A:I am that guys




    Not knowing,the thing just defined the meaning of life.




    Q:I have never seen an Ego that big
    A:You should read less and feel more

    Q:Meaning?
    A:Meaning you do not know Ego is

    Q:What am I
    A:An imbecile

    Q:...........Who am I?
    A:You are you

    Q:What am I?
    A:What do you want to be?

    Q:A porn star.
    A:Higher brain functions no longer working?

    Q:What is wrong with a porn star
    A:Nothing

    Q:Than why the smart fucking comments?
    A:This are your doubts

    Q:I do not doubt my dedication to porn
    A:I am sure you do not

    Q:I do not like the way you said that
    A:I know you don't

    Q:What if I want to be a stalactite?
    A:Again with the fauls thing?

    Q:It has NOTHING to do with a falus
    A:Ok than...yes you can be a....stalactite




    Trying to grasp it...doubts once again come in the way. Input suggests it is all about self limitations.



    Q:It has NOTHING to do with a falus
    A:Ok than...yes you can be a....stalactite

    A:You cant get it up, can you?
    Q:Ohoho this does it!!

    Q:Does what?
    A:Talk to the hand...

    Q:Is it washed?
    A:.......




    A last minute defense mechanism.



    A:I saw a shooting star yesterday, what does it mean?
    Q:It means you should cut back on drugs

    A:No it does not
    Q:Ok, it means you want to change the subject

    A:...............
    Q:Ok... you are not that bad

    A:I am not?
    Q:No

    A:So..how am I?
    Q:You are....middle good

    A:Like how?
    Q:Like ...doing fine

    A:I am successful?
    Q:Don't get too confident


    A:Is this another mind game
    Q:Stop doubting yourself

    A:God...do you...love me?
    Q:Yes

    A:Can we than stop to argue?
    Q:We can

    A:Can we keep it this way?
    Q:If you wan to




    Everything that has a begging has an end.




    A:I want to understand
    Q:Look around you

    A:What is possible
    Q:Throw away the science books

    A:And why is it so strange
    Q:Feel it inside

    A:It is not like I ever asked for it
    Q:There never was a question

    A:Like all is a dream
    Q:A very real one yes

    A:How can I know...
    Q:You have to try it....




    Input suggests thing has to restrain itself from the outside influence and story tellers.



    A:It was never about me, was it
    Q:No

    A:What is it about
    Q:What do you want it to be about?

    A:No, no...no more games
    Q:There are only games you make

    A:What is there to do?
    Q:Change it, make if different

    A:How can it be any different, i only know it this way
    Q:It is not easy

    A:I can not just make it different
    Q:This is only true when you want it to be

    A:Why would I want it?
    Q:Do you like it as it it?

    A:I am used to it
    Q:So?

    A:I will just wait and then it will be different
    Q:Will it?

    A:It has to be
    Q:Like so many times before?

    A:That was no the same
    Q:How so?

    A:It just wasn't
    Q:Stop it

    A:I am not this things you say
    Q:You are anything you want to be

    A:Can I just go?
    Q:Where?

    A:Away
    Q:Will it help?

    A:Where am I to go
    Q:Where do you want to go

    A:I can not...can not.....it hurts
    Q:Where?

    A:Stomach
    Q:Hands cold?

    A:Yes
    Q:Shivers?

    A:Make it stop
    Q:Can not do that

    A:You are GOD, make it stop
    Q:You have to do that

    A:I can not
    Q:How does it feel...what you do now...how does dying feel?

    A:It will be over soon, I have it under control
    Q:You are deluding yourself

    A:Where is love and light now?
    Q:Why do you need that

    A:It is the meaning of life, you said so
    Q:Actually it was you who said it

    A:What?
    Q:Meaning of life can be anything you want it to be

    A:It is over, I feel better now
    Q:It is not. You are just lying to yourself

    A:I am not, I know myself
    Q:Can you say - denial

    A:I just need to be alone
    Q:Nothing better for "self discovery" than the sound of silence

    A:It calms me
    Q:It introverts you

    A:I can not save the world
    Q:You can save yourself

    A:How??
    Q:Just do it




    Thing facing itself for the first time, not fighting the input but still resisting. It is suggested that escape is not a valid option.



    A:How??
    Q:Just do it

    Q:It is just that so many things would have to change
    A:Change - big word a?

    Q:How can I explain this to everyone?
    A:Oh yes...what others think...must be careful about that, do we?

    Q:Do I hear a sarcasm?
    A:Do you?

    Q:Cant answer a question with a question
    A:Why limit yourself

    Q:What if someone really gets hurt
    A:That is always an option and I never said it will be easy

    Q:Are there Lizards involved?
    A:Do you want them to be involved?

    Q:What does this have to do with anything?
    A:What does a cow have to do with your dinner plate?

    Q:What?
    A:You should be worried about yourself

    Q:I am
    A:No you are too busy searching for the truth

    Q:What is the truth?
    A:Everything you refuse to admit to yourself

    Q:I want to use my free will right now
    A:Sure, what will it be?

    Q:I want to feel good
    A:Makes yourself feel good

    Q:I need something...can you recommend anything?
    A:Always addicted to the outside stimuli are we?

    Q:No, I just feel like doing that now
    A:What you want or what you were conditioned to?

    Q:How should I know?
    A:Good question

    Q:You will not tell me?
    A:The first choice is not the best choice unless it is the only choice

    Q:How many are there?
    A:How many do you want them to be

    Q:This is getting me nowhere
    A:Can you at least try for a change?

    Q:Try what
    A:Feel different

    Q:I can think different
    A:No, you feel it first, you think about it later

    Q:And than what?
    A:There is no manual

    Q:Meaning?
    A:Meaning you should go and try




    Thing is experiencing a slow realization of itself ending with the fact that (even when not intended so) thing always feels first and processes it later.



    Q:Meaning?
    A:Meaning you should go and try

    A:I tried and not sure it worked
    Q:What did you do?

    A:I had my brain busy with fantasy and other trivial stuff for the past two days
    Q:And...this is new to you?

    A:You are trying to be funny again...arnt you?
    Q:I am?

    A:Are you?
    Q:You are

    A:Can I tell a thing without constant interruptions?
    Q:You can if you decide to do so...

    A:Should I change the subject?
    Q:Is there a subject?

    A:Yes...my light body and my love potential and getting to know the real me
    Q:Drugs are bad for you boy

    A:But YOU said so...
    Q:Get the guy that told you this to cut you in on his meth lab

    A:So I do not have a light body and inner love energy?
    Q:Do you want to have this?

    A:Someone in video said that he has experiences and knows that...
    Q:Someone in the video..bla bla bla...What do you know, what do you want?

    A:Love&Light?
    Q:Go get some

    A:How?
    Q:Your choice

    A:Ok...what if I do not care about love and light...
    Q:Ok

    A:Ok...just like that?
    Q:Sure

    A:But what about love and light?
    Q:What about it?

    A:Some guy there that knows all about it said that if I do not it will....
    Q:Some guy there that knows all...bla...bla...bla...

    A:Ok, now what?
    Q:Cant you decide for yourself?




    Thing is trying to encompass the input but is again frustrated by failure.





    A:Yes I can.....I just wish to be informed
    Q:You will die

    A:WHEN?
    Q:Do not know, I am just informing you that you will

    A:.....
    Q:A true Spark of Insanity...isn't it?

    A:I am not longer following you
    Q:Stop trying to follow me




    A most crucial input!





    A:That is not what I meant
    Q:Stop, breath, re-trace

    A:Telling me I will die is not an information
    Q:So is not telling you how to become enlightened

    A:But I already know I am going to die, without you or anyone else telling me
    Q:Wrong, you were told you will die...it has been presented to you as a fact

    A:So I will not die
    Q:In time you will find out

    A:How very funny are we today a?
    Q:As much as you want and or try to be

    A:Is me getting informed wrong?
    Q:Depends on who is presenting the information

    A:So....?
    Q:So start making your own decisions

    A:Is that what all this is about
    Q:It has always been about that





    The basic intent (besides my "inner" fun) was to present an "argument" about the whole 'Save meh, Sombardi help plizzzzzz. Gief gold' (misspelling intentional)

    What we have is a group of people telling us stories. Much like the MSM (main stream media) just that here we are not 'told what to do' but only 'advised' on what to do and even more important - what to believe. We are than told to use the (here comes the "big big" word) discernment.

    A predisposition that we have "signed up" and the "origins" of life are mostly based on the psychedelic (some call it paranormal) experiences. It perhaps could be conformed by the people claiming to have abilities such as astral travel or even dimensional travel and other out of this world experiences...if this people could actually stand behind their words about just how very "clairvoyant" they are...since most of them can be put into "personal issues" category as they simply just hang up on most of the things....that so called "matrix" imposes on us...or so they say....they also lack (in vast quantities) the ability to present and argument so they than present a blind belief.


    They do try, at all times, to stay "polite" and "politically correct" ...making sure they do not get past the "matrix" norms...calling it a higher spiritual conscience...all the rest, to them, is negative and they cling to get away from it...parting things in two while at the same time preaching about how duality will never work. And after several hours of "opinion exchange" they start going in circles...at the end of which there is always something like: I will die for a belief, you will die because you have none... My conclusion after that - it does seem we will all die someday


    There is nothing special about you. Trying to make yourself feel important or something more is pointless. You are what you are....a reflection.

    About love...The love, as most know it, is possessiveness, an urge to use and control...to demand and take...a selfish need to feel safe and secure..to belong and to be acknowledged, approved of.

    About light...abused and distorted as much if not even more than love. Being light is beyond me and i do not delude (most do) myself to be it or in it.

    And this is about it...all the rest is up there...

    Have no fear, o brave warriors of light (and love)..and the rest...if i might have insulted any of you....you can always say it is my ego, matrix thinking, fear and ignorance and that i am a payed agent or reptilian...
    If it makes you happier...go ahead....

    And if there is "truth out there" I am sure that Scully and Mulder will not be the ones to get to it any time soon. My inside sources (people that know people that know people on the inside) suggests that "desert of the real" is somewhat different than preached by the " i know it all" The "rabbit hole" is only as deep as you dig it and the matrix is not "all around you", it is you. And if your are baffled..do not be...it is all up there...in "conversations with yourself"

    How does this "resonate" with you? It does not? OMG, than you must be the prisoner of spiritual matrix. :) I tend to "resonate" differently at times ..depends on the "vibrations" (i can "sing" very nicely if you play me the right way)...and at times...when I read stuff and or listen or watch it...the "vibrations" i feel from it tend to be rather like - *my way or the high way* and only "negative/old school" (from my point of view) deals in absolute.
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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  Eric B on Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:30 pm

    The Father the Son and the holy ghost. A geometric crystal to process reality. The generational gap along with the spontaneous freedom to allow ghost you can have a trinity of energy influx. What a splendid design!

    Ghost is that subtle syncromysticism that permeates the plasma so efficiently. The dark matter, the glue that binds the two globes, that atomic structure of beauty.

    Goodness.....
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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  SuiGeneris on Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:11 pm

    Rok wrote:There is nothing special about you. Trying to make yourself feel important or something more is pointless. You are what you are....a reflection.

    A reflection of what?


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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  Guest on Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:32 pm

    SuiGeneris wrote:
    Rok wrote:There is nothing special about you. Trying to make yourself feel important or something more is pointless. You are what you are....a reflection.

    A reflection of what?

    yourself


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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  SuiGeneris on Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:21 pm

    Do you really think there's nothing special about you?


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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  Guest on Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:53 pm

    SuiGeneris wrote:Do you really think there's nothing special about you?

    I am what I am (those who prefer can use "that" insted of "what")

    and

    so are you and others...

    just that nothing more or less...no need to make an elephant out of it




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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  SuiGeneris on Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:26 am

    Rok wrote:What we have is a group of people telling us stories. Much like the MSM (main stream media) just that here we are not 'told what to do' but only 'advised' on what to do and even more important - what to believe. We are than told to use the (here comes the "big big" word) discernment.
    The MSM usually do not tell people what to do (well except on rare occasions where they dare to be direct like on Fox News) but instead they use very subtle methods of mind control and manipulation. What you find everywhere else on your everyday interactions might be different in that all may have a story to tell and even advise, but that doesn't mean you need to do anything with it. As far as you being told or advised what to do or what to believe... Hopefully you can always stand your own ground and always listen to your intuition and make up your own mind about everything. When it comes from within, only then you are true to your own convictions and you KNOW, which is more than a belief.



    Rok wrote:A predisposition that we have "signed up" and the "origins" of life are mostly based on the psychedelic (some call it paranormal) experiences. It perhaps could be conformed by the people claiming to have abilities such as astral travel or even dimensional travel and other out of this world experiences...if this people could actually stand behind their words about just how very "clairvoyant" they are...since most of them can be put into "personal issues" category as they simply just hang up on most of the things....that so called "matrix" imposes on us...or so they say....they also lack (in vast quantities) the ability to present and argument so they than present a blind belief.
    The way I see it, the vast majority of people who tell their "stories" are not interested in convincing anyone ... they simply share. Unless.... we are talking about fakes. Those do try very hard since they crave validation from someone...anyone, since they have very low self esteem, so they'll make up stories and fake channels and dreams and so on... However, the energies are such now that is helping more and more people to see right through them, even if they say they are not trying to convince or debate anyone (and they usually say exactly that)... so you see, the falseness falls by its own weight.



    Rok wrote:They do try, at all times, to stay "polite" and "politically correct" ...making sure they do not get past the "matrix" norms...calling it a higher spiritual conscience...all the rest, to them, is negative and they cling to get away from it...parting things in two while at the same time preaching about how duality will never work. And after several hours of "opinion exchange" they start going in circles...at the end of which there is always something like: I will die for a belief, you will die because you have none... My conclusion after that - it does seem we will all die someday
    When you say: "All the rest, to them, is negative" you are making a HUGE generalization and putting millions of people into one category and making a huge assumption because "all the rest" is a huge number and "negative" means different things to different people. Perhaps what you wanted to point out was that those who judge negativity as evil are still trapped in duality thinking?



    Rok wrote:There is nothing special about you. Trying to make yourself feel important or something more is pointless. You are what you are....a reflection.
    If you are just a reflection of yourself, then where do you think is the real you? And since you say there is nothing special about you and you are what you are… then what are you?



    Rok wrote:About love...The love, as most know it, is possessiveness, an urge to use and control...to demand and take...a selfish need to feel safe and secure..to belong and to be acknowledged, approved of.
    Do you think love is only something you feel for someone else? Being your partner, your child, a friend, etc? And I don't mean the types of 3D love... I mean, do you think it could be more than that? More than a "feeling"??



    Rok wrote:About light...abused and distorted as much if not even more than love. Being light is beyond me and i do not delude (most do) myself to be it or in it.
    This one is very easy. If you study the nature of a cell, an atom, electron, vibration, etc., you will soon realize many truths that have been kept hidden from us for thousands of years. You can find many lecturers in the New Age community nowadays that have the capacity to explain in lay man's terms the nature of our existence and how in essence we are light. And they do not need to be Physicists to do so. More and more people, even without a formal "education" are now able to comprehend very advanced metaphysics. What's more, often times the more programed a person has been by "formal education" (indoctrination), the harder it is for them to be able to grasp the truth.

    By you stating that "being light is beyond me", you ARE putting it beyond you already and by doing so you are limiting your chances of you ever realizing what you are. Have you even explore the possibility of you being Light? Are you curious enough to dig deep? Do you care to know who and what you are? Why negate something just because "people" do not give you tangible proof of something? No one will. It is a personal journey.




    Rok wrote:And if there is "truth out there" I am sure that Scully and Mulder will not be the ones to get to it any time soon. My inside sources (people that know people that know people on the inside) suggests that "desert of the real" is somewhat different than preached by the " i know it all" The "rabbit hole" is only as deep as you dig it and the matrix is not "all around you", it is you. And if your are baffled..do not be...it is all up there...in "conversations with yourself"
    I think people who have way too many "conversations with God" may not be really talking to God at all. They are simply tired of listening to their altered ego talking away to them. They should try not to have any more "conversations" with "themselves" but rather clear their mind of the destructive chatter. Empty their mind they should. Silence will benefit them greatly. See... they say too much. They whine too much. They rant too much. and in all that internal NOISE, they cannot hear God's whisper.



    Rok wrote:How does this "resonate" with you? It does not? OMG, than you must be the prisoner of spiritual matrix. :)
    Do not mock that which you do not understand. Contemplating the term resonance will help you free yourself from the real Matrix.


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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  Guest on Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:48 am

    SuiGeneris wrote:
    The MSM usually do not tell people what to do (well except on rare occasions where they dare to be direct like on Fox News) but instead they use very subtle methods of mind control and manipulation. What you find everywhere else on your everyday interactions might be different in that all may have a story to tell and even advise, but that doesn't mean you need to do anything with it. As far as you being told or advised what to do or what to believe... Hopefully you can always stand your own ground and always listen to your intuition and make up your own mind about everything. When it comes from within, only then you are true to your own convictions and you KNOW, which is more than a belief.

    Using manipulation tactics is telling people what to do...and the rest of it is nice just that people believe they know... they mostly "know" what they are ready to agree with. Whatever that may be.

    As long as it goes along with their point of view and interest and benefit...it is ok to them.




    SuiGeneris wrote:
    The way I see it, the vast majority of people who tell their "stories" are not interested in convincing anyone ... they simply share. Unless.... we are talking about fakes. Those do try very hard since they crave validation from someone...anyone, since they have very low self esteem, so they'll make up stories and fake channels and dreams and so on... However, the energies are such now that is helping more and more people to see right through them, even if they say they are not trying to convince or debate anyone (and they usually say exactly that)... so you see, the falseness falls by its own weight.


    This is an interesting paragraph. It can be hard to recognize a fake. Especially in "metaphysics area". But in my view it is usually the non "out worldly" stuff that give people away (simple casual things)...


    SuiGeneris wrote:
    When you say: "All the rest, to them, is negative" you are making a HUGE generalization and putting millions of people into one category and making a huge assumption because "all the rest" is a huge number and "negative" means different things to different people. Perhaps what you wanted to point out was that those who judge negativity as evil are still trapped in duality thinking?



    This specific words are for the self proclaimed light workers and alike. Keep in mind that all of this (commentary) was done some time ago and that the content was pasted from mists and it is based on avalon 1 orchestrated fiasco. It is about people that "hang up" on simple every day "moral issues" which they should master like that (snap fingers)..being so much in the light. One of most common arguments is that the subject has too low vibration for them to deal with and they do not want to be dragged down to "that" level...etc.... hope it is more clear now.


    SuiGeneris wrote:
    If you are just a reflection of yourself, then where do you think is the real you? And since you say there is nothing special about you and you are what you are… then what are you?


    What is "yourself" in the context of the thread?


    SuiGeneris wrote:
    Do you think love is only something you feel for someone else? Being your partner, your child, a friend, etc? And I don't mean the types of 3D love... I mean, do you think it could be more than that? More than a "feeling"??


    People do not know what love is. People that claim they do fail to show it. There are only some idealized images of what it should be. Based on that...it can not be said what all it can be or what more it can be.


    SuiGeneris wrote:
    This one is very easy. If you study the nature of a cell, an atom, electron, vibration, etc., you will soon realize many truths that have been kept hidden from us for thousands of years. You can find many lecturers in the New Age community nowadays that have the capacity to explain in lay man's terms the nature of our existence and how in essence we are light. And they do not need to be Physicists to do so. More and more people, even without a formal "education" are now able to comprehend very advanced metaphysics. What's more, often times the more programed a person has been by "formal education" (indoctrination), the harder it is for them to be able to grasp the truth.

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    By you stating that "being light is beyond me", you ARE putting it beyond you already and by doing so you are limiting your chances of you ever realizing what you are. Have you even explore the possibility of you being Light? Are you curious enough to dig deep? Do you care to know who and what you are? Why negate something just because "people" do not give you tangible proof of something? No one will. It is a personal journey.



    By saying light i did not have any physical or metaphysical structures/formations in mind. I was talking about the "glow" in the mind of the people...the "goodness" and how fake it is.



    SuiGeneris wrote:
    I think people who have way too many "conversations with God" may not be really talking to God at all. They are simply tired of listening to their altered ego talking away to them. They should try not to have any more "conversations" with "themselves" but rather clear their mind of the destructive chatter. Empty their mind they should. Silence will benefit them greatly. See... they say too much. They whine too much. They rant too much. and in all that internal NOISE, they cannot hear God's whisper.

    Do not mock that which you do not understand. Contemplating the term resonance will help you free yourself from the real Matrix.




    You imply an awareness separated from all that is (collective)...from everything else. That implications can have "drastic" consequences..like a new version of akashic records and such...

    Match your frequency with yourself and the answer will be given? Look and you will see? Take and you will receive? Ask and it will be given?

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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  SuiGeneris on Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:43 pm

    Rok wrote:
    SuiGeneris wrote:
    Rok wrote:There is nothing special about you. Trying to make yourself feel important or something more is pointless. You are what you are....a reflection.

    A reflection of what?

    yourself
    The "yourself" you used in your previous answer above is what I'm talking about. So I ask again, If you are just a reflection of yourself, then where do you think is the real you? And since you say there is nothing special about you and you are what you are… then what are you?


    Rok wrote:People do not know what love is. People that claim they do fail to show it. There are only some idealized images of what it should be. Based on that...it can not be said what all it can be or what more it can be.
    I am not interested in "people's" opinion of what love is. I asked your opinion on something specific. Do you think Love can be more than a feeling?


    Rok wrote:By saying light i did not have any physical or metaphysical structures/formations in mind. I was talking about the "glow" in the mind of the people...the "goodness" and how fake it is.
    Wait, are you saying that's what you think it means when people talk about being Light? A "fake" glow? Are you saying "in the mind" because you think no real sparkles of light are coming off their auras?

    I mean certainly there is fake "goodness" out there, like when some go to church every weekend to cleanse themselves of all the "sins" they've done during the week, and so on... But New Agers do not talk about being Light as a metaphor for being a good boy or girl... It goes much deeper than that.

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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  Guest on Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:19 pm

    SuiGeneris wrote:
    The "yourself" you used in your previous answer above is what I'm talking about. So I ask again, If you are just a reflection of yourself, then where do you think is the real you? And since you say there is nothing special about you and you are what you are… then what are you?

    What is "yourself" in the context of this thread?



    SuiGeneris wrote:
    I am not interested in "people's" opinion of what love is. I asked your opinion on something specific. Do you think Love can be more than a feeling?


    I can not answer this question in any other way than i already have.


    SuiGeneris wrote:
    Wait, are you saying that's what you think it means when people talk about being Light? A "fake" glow? Are you saying "in the mind" because you think no real sparkles of light are coming off their auras?

    I mean certainly there is fake "goodness" out there, like when some go to church every weekend to cleanse themselves of all the "sins" they've done during the week, and so on... But New Agers do not talk about being Light as a metaphor for being a good boy or girl... It goes much deeper than that.

    In Love and Light,



    No nothing so grandiose as auras and such stuff.

    I have a feeling new agers do not know what they talk about most of time...or just can not explain it. And i was referring to the sort of a falseness that each of us can have.

    Just your "love and light" can make me sick if i allow it....and it is not you personally that does that...it is the general ongoing in amm this "time period"
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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  SuiGeneris on Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:05 am

    I don't understand your "yourself" question above...so if you even remember what what this all about....what do you mean? Can you believe I have not seen this at all? LOL

    I've noticed that there is a new sort of movement of being anti New Age and it could be that it came to be due to PTB infiltration and making a mess of the whole movement. Again it seems the "Love-n-Lighters" are seen as the hippies of the sixties and seventies. In these times of darkness and confusion it really got to be really bad... I see it everywhere now, to the point where I people are extra careful not to sound too esoteric for fear of being branded a crazy New Ager.


    ...and now if you excuse me, I have to go do my love and light meditation lol



    P.S. Any new conversation with God lately?


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    Re: Conversations With God - Non Bullshit Version (revised)

    Post  Guest on Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:26 am

    This is rather old now...

    i am at work now and i ...hate it...already...this is so draining...so it will be a quick answer...

    It is about your statements at the time on "how things are" and my "point" on how you are missing my point and you were rather upset at the time if i remember correctly but you did ask now...a month or two later...but better late than never or how they say it...

    yourself is the "god all mighty"....as mighty as you make it....

    i hope i do not have to "digress" into the word of god at this point...

    about the new age...it is as i wrote before in this thread...people will go after they interest and point of view...it is very simple...they will be the representative of that view and if poked they will react to protect it....

    that is why i state that unconditional is allowance and non interference (not imposing) etc....

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