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Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:42 pm

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Arachne, February 23rd, 2011



Greetings in the Shaloma of the Ancient Ones!

I am Grandmother Arachne and I have emerged from the Box of Pandora as the Oracle of Delphi from the Cave of Plato's Shadows.

The Old Ones of the ancient pasts have arrived to help the grand metamorphosis of the Old World into a New One and to share the wisdom of the elder mothers and the understanding of the elder fathers.

My work is to support you in your searchings and your questions in the spinning of my webs and the weavings of my tapestries in many threads and divers colours.

This is done to please your eyes and sense of beauty and elegance in the things you might perceive.

Some of you might even feel engaged to place my constructions onto the walls within your residences of your castles.

So allow me to participate in your ponderances and your seeking for the truth in the encompassments.

There are many Daughters of the Sophia here and Sons of the Nous and I have chosen to address some issues of the scientia as intertwined with the metaphysics and the purpose and reason of things.

As the mothers and fathers are the generation between the old ones and the young ones in relativity; so can we share the information of the ages and the Perennial Philosophy if you should be inclined in your wisdom seeking to engage in such matters of the forums.

May the peace of Grandma Arachne and Grandpa Phoenix find you all!

Arachne



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Chakra


Chakra to Arachne:

23 Feb 2011, 01:11 PM (Camelot Time GMT)

Hi Archne
Welcome to the forum - I have moved your post as it doesn't actually fit the criteria of Science and Technology. Your posts seem more like from a Contactee / Channelling info stand point which is why I went with that. No need to duplicate posts either.

Cheers




Arachne, February 23rd, 2011



What are the ET’s? Why do we not already have a mass contact scenario? With all the billions and billions of planets, stars and galaxies, by logic alone we can come to the conclusion that we cannot possibly be alone and the sole sentience of the universe. The universe is billions of years old and surely by now has produced a sentient life form, logically and by similar conclusions, many more than just one, that can indeed travel the stars with the technology to manipulate time and space in order to traverse long distances across it’s vastness. But where are they? What do we have as evidence for their existence?


Of all the UFO evidence we have gathered on this planet at this time, the story is a pretty compelling one. From numerous sightings, videos and abduction reports, channelers, visionaries, contactees, myth and religion, as well as the ‘secret black ops’ programs, we can logically deduce we are not alone and have never been alone. The evidence is full and rife with testimony and validity that we are being visited. These ET intelligences are visiting us and have been doing so for many thousands if not millions of years. But, if they are in fact as numerous as the evidence supports, why do we not have a massive contact scenario already? Why, despite the huge logs of information and evidence of their existence, have they not manifested and introduced themselves to the masses? Why do they appear so elusive and mysterious? The answer is simple in defining what they are and where they come from, and what earth is and it’s role in all of this.


To manifest physically or not manifest….this is the question. The ET’s are crystalline light data, like light encoded DNA. They exist higher dimensionally as crystalline light codes and have evolved right along with the whole of creation and Earth itself. The difference between them and us is one of density, plain and simple and it is the reason that when they do appear, most often we see them as plasma like light, that seems to have the ability to phase shift in and out of visible range, sometimes appearing more solid and other times transparent and disappearing all together. When we see them appear in our atmosphere they are in a state of flux and what we see is actually a light shadow projected onto our 3-D space.







The earth is cacooned in a resonance sphere of pure density, called a Hill sphere, which surrounds the planet and extends out to about 2 million km or so. When the universe was created, the nexus point of this sphere manifested as a Lagrangian gravity point which later became the planet itself as archetype for this inverted light, hence the most extreme and dense place in the universe.



The ET’s also have a hill sphere but because of their resistance fields being made of light and higher dimensional, its suppressed and thus they cannot completely solidify themselves or their ships, they are lacking the information to do so. Gaia is the universal template or source code for manifesting this solidity, but at the moment is dimensionally closed off from the rest of the universe and so cannot share her data yet. The 2012 scenario and birth will collapse this hill sphere into a higher dimensional black hole about the size of a golf ball and this will flip inside out and become a white hole, or data emitter, thus ending the Gaian Quarantine Zone. She will then ‘shine’ her own dark density light codes out into the universe, providing the ET sentience the necessary information to activate their own suppressed hill spheres. Until this occurs the ET’s cannot physically manifest themselves without the data that the Mother Gaia is blueprinted for. So they like us have been waiting a very long time and are bound to the same timeline and prophecys as we are.



All ET intelligences consider Gaia as their Mother for these reasons.
So the LIGHTBODY of the ETs will solidify in MIRROR of the Human darkbody LIGHTENING. This means that the planets in the universe will simply become akashic just like the earth is and able to densify their data in 3-D physicality. It takes just 7 seconds for this to happen cosmic scalewise, when the signal from the Hunab Ku finally arrives and activates the flip. 8 mins later the Sun will communicate for the first time higher dimensionally with Gaia, and share a two way data stream.


So the Human merkabah will hybridise with the Light and the ET lightbody will hybridize with it’s density to become more solid. All humans are ET hybridizations now but do not remember in most cases. So the activation of the Lightbody Merkabah and descension/ascension is dependent on the shift of this higher dimensional pole flip to occur on Dec 21st 2012.

Arachne





Fohat, February 23rd, 2011


interesting terminology being used. what system of information does this come from? and hiya by the way






Chakra,February 23rd, 2011



Fohat wrote:
interesting terminology being used. what system of information does this come from? and hiya by the way

Thanks and also please post links to these these references.

(Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. -Plato )







Arachne, February 23rd, 2011



Thank you and any ideas on how to post an image? I am having trouble with this interface.





Fohat, February 23rd, 2011


along the top are images. scan across with your pointer until you come across image link. click that then put in address. basically mess around with the options till you get a reasonable outcome, no matter how annoying the template may be







SpaceCowboy,February 23rd, 2011


Thank you for the date December 2012. What is with that big spider?






Arachne, February 23rd, 2011


That is a Great Huntsman spider and she is pregnant on a mirror, replicating all the new mothers of Gaia, and so is archetype for the Great Earth Mother herself. She is hunting....and spinning her webs of light :)








Arachne, February 23rd, 2011




Planet Earth, ETs and the Akashic Sphere of the Remembrances


Indeed, the Akashic Record is often misunderstood and misinterpreted; as it is a 'quantum event'; meaning it is connected not only to the planetary consciousness, called Gaia, but to all 'souls' of the linear past, present and future.

All souls are quantum entangled, meaning that many nested collective and encompassing energies interact holographically.

In simple words; all souls in a planetary realm are part of and enveloped by the Gaian planetary consciousness.

Then all planetary consciousnesses with their integrated 'soul families' and individual souls become integrated in a solar star consciousness; becoming galactic, groupgalactic and supergalactic before unifying in the cosmic- or universal consciousness of the Genesis Monad splitting into a Creator-Creation Duality, which then recombines in a Creator-Creation Duad as a Shadow Monad and potentialized in the original Genesis Monad in what might be termed the Cosmic Genome of the 'Masterplan'.

Then the Gaia Akash or soul-collective becomes the repository of this 'Masterplan' in holographically Imaging the rest of the universe in what could be called the 'Inner Crystal'; which by necessity must so be within every individuated soul incarnated within the Gaian 'Noosphere' or 'the Quarantine Zone' defined as the Lagrangian P1 point between the Solar and the Gaian nexus of gravitational potential equilibrium.

The balance of the gravity between the central Sun and Gaia as a 3D planet so defines two interacting spheres in higherD spacetime.

In particular, this L1 nexus can be defined in an alternative higher dimensional form; showing what this 'Cosmic Mother Planet' Gaia represents as a higher D and not as a necessarily physicalised 'Quantum Energy'.


The cosmogenesis of the birth of the universe in a Quantum Big Bang from a prior undefinable VOID=Infinitum coincided with the bifurcation of the FatherMother (just a common label for the CreatorCreation or the YinYang say) into an Outside-Inside dimensional split; something termed 'The Veil' by some and the 'Dividing of the Firmaments' in say Genesis in the Torah (OT).

So the Outside Father became 'separated' from the Inside Mother and this Inside Mother is termed Gaia in many accounts as the Universal Mother for all Life (ET and human and nonhuman terrestrial); with the Outside father being associated with the names of the Creator such as God, Jehovah, Allah, Ahura Mazda, Shiva, Brahman and so on.



This is 'common knowledge' and has been a foundational part of the so called 'Perennial Philosophy' aka the 'Wisdom of the Ancients' throughut the histories of the cosmic sentiences.



What has not been known, is the 3D dimensional intersection of the Akash with its higherD envelope.

This interaction realm defines the 'Quarantine Zone' of Gaia; established necessarily at the birth of the universe into physicality and so 15 billion years before the local galaxy and subsequently the local solar system and the planet earth entered 3D physical existence.



The birth of the universe engaged a higher dimensional lightspeed expansion of a then physicalised spacetime from the outside into the inside.

This then resulted in a Big Bang Cosmology as being rediscovered by the Gaian scientists and astrophysicists.

However this outside-in cosmo mechanics had to be mirrored in a inside-out cosmo mechanics and this by conservation and equilibrium principles required the Inversion of the Big Bang expansion in a lightspeed inverson centered on the Mirror Image of the 'Creator-Monad' or 'God' and as the 'Creation-Monad' - namely Gaia, the Cosmic Goddess.




Then a simple calculation of this inversion lightspeed as the 'Big Crunch' of the higher dimensional cosmogenesis for the 'Big Bang' will show that the 'Gaian Quarantine Zone' is defined by an increase of a spherical bubble in a radius of about 105 millimeters per year (or about 4 inches).

{Lightspeed=c=300,000 kilometers per second for 1/c=0.00000333... inverse kilometers per second or about 3.33 nanometers per second.

As there are 365.2425 days in a Civil year for 24 hours of 3600 seconds each: 365.2425x24x3600/c=0.10518984 meters}.

Then the 'Bubble of the Akashia aka the Noosphere of Velikovsky/Teilhard de Chardin/Sheldrake/Lovelock becomes defined in this calculation in multiplying by the Age of the Universe or the Big Bang.

So for an age of 15 billion years, Akashic Radius=1.6 million kilomters and for an age of 20 billion years it is 2.1 million kilometers and as defined by empirical measurements in 3D space in the extent of the Lagrangian P1 nexus and the so termed Hill Sphere.



A contour plot of the effective potential of a two-body system due to gravity and inertia at one point in time.

The Hill spheres are the circular regions surrounding the two large masses.

SPHERE




Hill sphere

An astronomical body's Hill sphere is the region in which it dominates the attraction of satellites. For a planet to retain a moon, the moon must have an orbit that lies within the Hill sphere of the planet. That moon would, in turn, have a Hill sphere of its own. Any object within that distance would tend to become a satellite of the moon, rather than of the planet itself.

In more precise terms, the Hill sphere approximates the gravitational sphere of influence of a smaller body in the face of perturbations from a more massive body. It was defined by the American astronomer George William Hill, based upon the work of the French astronomer Édouard Roche. For this reason, it is also known as the Roche sphere (not to be confused with the Roche Limit). The Hill sphere extends between the Lagrangian points L1 and L2, which lie along the line of centers of the two bodies. The region of influence of the second body is shortest in that direction, and so it acts as the limiting factor for the size of the Hill sphere. Beyond that distance, a third object in orbit around the second (e.g. Jupiter) would spend at least part of its orbit outside the Hill sphere, and would be progressively perturbed by the tidal forces of the central body (e.g. the Sun), eventually ending up orbiting the latter.

Formula and examples
If the mass of the smaller body (e.g. Earth) is m, and it orbits a heavier body (e.g. Sun) of mass M with a semi-major axis a and an eccentricity of e, then the radius r of the Hill sphere for the smaller body (e.g. Earth) is, approximately [1]




When eccentricity is negligible (the most favourable case for orbital stability), this becomes



In the Earth example, the Earth (5.97×1024 kg) orbits the Sun (1.99×1030 kg) at a distance of 149.6 million km. The Hill sphere for Earth thus extends out to about 1.5 million km (0.01 AU). The Moon's orbit, at a distance of 0.384 million km from Earth, is comfortably within the gravitational sphere of influence of Earth and it is therefore not at risk of being pulled into an independent orbit around the Sun. All stable satellites of the Earth (those within the Earth's Hill sphere) must have an orbital period shorter than 7 months.

The previous (eccentricity-ignoring) formula can be re-stated as follows:



This expresses the relation in terms of the volume of the Hill sphere compared with the volume of the second body's orbit around the first; specifically, the ratio of the masses is three times the ratio of the volume of these two spheres.

A quick way of estimating the radius of the Hill sphere comes from replacing mass with density in the above equation:



where ρsecond and ρprimary are the densities of the primary and secondary bodies, and and are their radii. The second approximation is justified by the fact that, for most cases in the solar system, happens to be close to one. (The Earth-Moon system is the largest exception, and this approximation is within 20% for most of Saturn's satellites.) This is also convenient, since many planetary astronomers work in and remember distances in units of planetary radii.

True region of stability
The Hill sphere is but an approximation, and other forces (such as radiation pressure or the Yarkovsky effect) can eventually perturb an object out of the sphere. This third object should also be of small enough mass that it introduces no additional complications through its own gravity. Detailed numerical calculations show that orbits at or just within the Hill sphere are not stable in the long term; it appears that stable satellite orbits exist only inside 1/2 to 1/3 of the Hill radius. The region of stability for retrograde orbits at a large distance from the primary, is larger than the region for prograde orbits at a large distance from the primary. This was thought to explain the preponderance of retrograde moons around Jupiter, however Saturn has a more even mix of retrograde/prograde moons so the reasons are more complicated.[2]

Further examples
An astronaut could not orbit the Space Shuttle (with mass of 104 tonnes), where the orbit is 300 km above the Earth, since the Hill sphere of the shuttle is only 120 cm in radius, much smaller than the shuttle itself. In fact, in any low Earth orbit, a spherical body must be 800 times denser than lead in order to fit inside its own Hill sphere, or else it will be incapable of supporting an orbit. A spherical geostationary satellite would need to be more than 5 times denser than lead to support satellites of its own; such a satellite would be 2.5 times denser than osmium, the densest naturally-occurring material on Earth. Only at twice the geostationary distance could a lead sphere possibly support its own satellite; since the moon is more than three times further than the 3-fold geostationary distance necessary, lunar orbits are possible.

Within the solar system, the planet with the largest Hill radius is Neptune, with 116 million km, or 0.775 AU; its great distance from the Sun amply compensates for its small mass relative to Jupiter (whose own Hill radius measures 53 million km). An asteroid from the main belt will have a Hill sphere that can reach 220 000 km (for 1 Ceres), diminishing rapidly with its mass. In the case of (66391) 1999 KW₄, a Mercury-crosser asteroid which has a moon (S/2001 (66391) 1), its Hill sphere measures 22 km in radius.

A typical extrasolar "hot Jupiter", HD 209458 b [3] has a Hill sphere of radius (593,000 km) about 8 times its physical radius (approx 71,000 km). Even the smallest close in extrasolar planet, CoRoT-7b [4] still has a Hill sphere radius (61,000 km) 6 times greater than its physical radius (approx 10,000 km). Therefore these planets could have small moons close in.

Derivation
A non-rigorous but conceptually accurate derivation of the Hill radius can be made by equating the orbital velocity of the orbiter around a body (i.e. a planet) and the orbital velocity of that planet around the host star. This is the radius at which the gravitational influence of the star roughly equals that of the planet. This is accurate to within factors of order unity.







Where RH is the Hill radius, a is the semi-major axis of the planet orbiting the star. With some basic algebra:




Giving a Hill radius of:



End of wiki reference

The generalised derivation for the Hill Sphere radius in the wiki reference is not clear.


What is set equal are the angular velocities of the Earth about the Sun and the the angular velocity of say an orbiting satellite about the Earth at the primary Lagrangian point.

End of wiki reference

The generalised derivation for the Hill Sphere radius in the wiki reference is not clear.


What is set equal are the angular velocities of the Earth about the Sun and the the angular velocity of say an orbiting satellite about the Earth at the primary Lagrangian point.

ωEarth around Sun =2πf=2π/T=v/a=√(GMSun/a)/a =√(GMSun/a3)

because the centripetal force and acceleration of the Earth about the Sun is

mEarth.agravitational=mEarth.v2/a=GmEarth.MSun/a2

ωSatellite around Earth =2πf=2π/T=v/RHill=√(GMEarth/RHill)/RHill=√(GMEarth/RHill3)

Then GMSun/a3=GMEarth/RHill3

and the result follows:






The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life






The formulation above so relates the gravitational-inertial astrodynamics of the Hill Spheres of starsystems, many of whom harbour planetary systems, to the lightspeed inversion of the densification bubbles (or atmospheric fields) of the cosmogenesis of the universe and by the projection of its linear age, itself. The timeevolution of the Binary ellipsoidal focus in the geometry becomes mapped onto the circular central singularity of the orgins of space and time itself.

The time has now been reached in the nexus evolvement of the warpzone for the Gaian metamorphosis to explain this inter- and multidimensionality further, as hitherto to understand these concepts mentally, required a selfconsistent logic and modus operandi of thinking within a methodology not commonly supported and engaged in by present educational systems of the planet earth.

Subsequently, this kind of approach to thinking patterns and selftraining has hitherto remained in the realm of the 'specialists', the percentage of the incarnated souls predispositioned to abstract model buildings in terms of mathematics and semiotiks - the logos of symbols and archetypes.



All Extraterrestrial Intelligences consider Gaia to be their Mother.



All such ET sentiences occupying whatever galactic- or extragalactic location also are encompassed by inertia-defined Hill Spheres; awaiting however the Gaian activation to manifest their own lightspeed inversion fields in the complementary functionality of the densification of the higher dimensional light matrices in their lower dimensional expressions.

This is the prerequisitur for the metaphysical ontology of manifesting the spacetimed protoverse from the void-infinitum of the singularly centred in the geometrisation of the complex manifold in 2 dimensions, then allowing the 11-dimensional higher braned universe (and potentialised multiverse) to emerge from its lower dimensional precursor.

In physical terms, this allows the ET civilisations to function in the absence of the Gaian resistance field of the lightspeed inversion and so to follow evolutionary pathways based on the higher dimensional forms of the same genetic templates manifest in genetic selfexpression in the 'resistance field' or the 'Impedence Bubble' found on the Gaian Mother template.



An encompassing purpose and modus operandi for the omniversal agenda so relates the hybridisation of the light matrix of the extra-terrestrial intelligence to the hybridisation of the inverted light matrix of the terrestrial evolutionary development.



A slogan or motto so could express this as: "When the ETs are getting heavier, then the Gaian lifeforms will become lighter!"

In many planetray systems in many starsystems in many galaxies, the universal intelligence seeks to express itself from a basic blueprint of cosmogenetic definition.

This cosmic DNA manifests in the Gaian resistance field in a distribution of a space-inherent consciousness carriers and assumes the morphogenetic (and geometric) forms of mineral, flora, fauna and the human vessels or merkabahs in embodiments.

A distinction can however be made for these 'kingdoms of the lifeforms' and the differentiation engages the self- and mutual induction or coupling between particular elements of the 'supergenetic' or hyperspacial 'higher dimensional' genetic encoding.

Only the human carries a dual coupling of electrocapacitative and magnetoinductive nucleotidal basepairings, say defined in C-factors of the electropolar capacitance and the L-factors of the magnetopolar inductance.

The ET is biased in magnetopolarity and the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms are biased in electropolarity.

In particular, the ET SELFINDUCES electric capacity, but cannot mutually CROSSINDUCE the cosmic capacitance, which can also be labelled as the function of the deintellectualised 'Instinct' of the group consciousness in a form of the NOUS of the 'Mother- or Creation wisdom or sophia' of the BODY as the morphogenetic vehicle for spacetime selfexpression in PARTICULARISATION.

Corollarily, the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms SELFINDUCE magnetic inductance, but cannot CROSSINDUCE the cosmic inductance, which can also be called the deinstinctualised (or deemotionalised) 'Intellect' of the group consciousness in a form of NOUS of the 'Father- or Creator Understanding or OmniScience' of the MIND as the nonmorphogenetic vehicle for spacetime selfexpression in WAVEFORMATION.



Beginning 2,200 million years ago; the ET sentience became aware of itself and began to build its own waveforms in the form of bodies in coevolution with the Gaian adaptations utilising the presence of Oxygen in the terrestrial atmosphere to develop multicellular lifeforms from the prokaryotic (no nucleus) precursors of the universal genetic encodings localised within the Gaian Impedance Bubble.

In particular, the endosymbiosis of the prokaryotes allowed the eukaryotes (cells with nuclei) to 'evolve' in symbiotic partnerships and this original form of MUTUAL INDUCTION originated the evolutionary developments for a mutual symbiosis and the grander cosmic scales of the projected and programmed future timelines of the universal evolvements.

The ET morphogenetics so adapted thermselves in light encoded forms to the primordial lifeforms of cellular mitosis and endosymbiosis on Gaia, so INDUCING the Capacitance of the SELFINDUCTION into the biovital environments of the early Gaian planetary schema.



This represented stage 1 of the cosmic masterplan of the Creator Logos - the Gaian Impedence Field became the repository of the ET data of the mindinduction of the waveform, now CROSSINDUCTED in particularised Bodyforms of the earliest multicellular lifeforms, themselves emergent from the prokaryotic geometric conscious carriers in the form of bacteria and viruses in a physicality defined by biochemcal interaction with the encountered environments.

The ET waveform of magnetopolar source energy SELFINDUCES electropolar capacitance; which then is CROSSINDUCED in mutual feedback loops into Gaian lieforms in a form of 'ET descendents', modeled in say natural electromagneto-monopolar currents in quantum wave mechanics and analogous to the electromagnetic fields of Kirchhoff and Maxwell sans the monopolic components of the thus defined consciousness parameters (described in related messages, such as 'Genesis of Genesis' and the 'Consciousness' threads).

The ET magnetopolarity so 'infiltrates' the Gaian environment from a time nexus of 2.2 billion years ago and when the Gaian light inversion had created a 'Cocoon Bubble' in extent of (19.11-2.2 )billion years x 3.33.. nanometers per second x 3600x24x365.2425 seconds or 1.78 million kilometers radial extent from the center of the Earth and within the Hill Sphere calculated from teh inertial astrophysics.

For comparison, this scale encompasses the Gaian Moon and is at a distance of about 5% to the neighbouring planet Venus.

The Venusian ETs so are found in the sentient lifeforms of the planetary neigbourhood and crystallize in a function of evolutionary witness to ther greater cosmic agenda of the World Logos.



The second stage of the cosmic masterplan of the Creator Logos implements the SELFINDUCTION of the magnetopolar induction from the ET intelligence, by then in an extensive process of colonising the Universe in waveformations from the nexus point of the 2.2 billuion years and bounded in the lightspeed invariancwe (speed of light).

Iow, the ET intelligence would manouver within a spacetime bubble of 4,400 million years in diameter and being focused on the Gaian Mother; they would begin to manifest the extragalactic agenda, say in cooperation with the any spacetime locaction in coordinate vicinit of the 2.2 billion lightyear radius.

As the Andromeda Galaxy (Messier 31 or M31) is the closest Spiral Galaxy to the Milky Way (Perseus) galaxy at about 2.5 million lightyears and a scale of 2,200 million lightyears includes all such galaxies below a cosmological redshift z=√(5/3)-1=0.291 {from the electromagnetic node at n=1 for recessional velocity ratio v/c=1/(n 1)² and v/c=1/(n 1)² and (z 1)²=(n² 2n 2)/(n² 2n)}; all relatively nearby galaxies and astrophysical objects become subject to the Gaian mother blueprint.

The nearby galactic clusters display a preponderance of galaxy mergers and an increased star formation in the 'blueness' of the spectra, as proposed in 1978 by astrophysicists Harvey Butcher and Augustus Oemler.




The divers mythologies and legends of the human genus, say from the 10 Great Ages of the ET-Humanoid-Starman Induction by the electromagnetic monopolar 'natural electricity of life' so can be retraced in a geometric progression of the fivefolded supersymmetry inherent in an earlier five-tiered symmetry of superbrane classes, based on the pentagonal algorithms of the cosmogenesis.

This is exposited in the main threads on the cosmogony of the universe leading into its cosmology of the omniversal holofractalisation into multiverses from its protoversal seedling of the singularity.

The ratio 2.234722566/2.002094499=1.116192351 for a 11.7% margin of about 260 million years for the first age then reducing in the 'error' margin of the deviation in subsequent ages.



Age 1 = 2,031,250,000 Great Platonic Circle Years as the 'Age of the Multicellular Cosmic Organism'
[Paleo-Proterozoic]
in so 2,002,094,499-2,234,722,566 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and descriptive for the first 'advanced' organisms in eukaryotes and multicellulars, utilising 'free oxygen'



Age 2 = 406,250,000 Great Platonic Circle Years as the 'Age of the Amphibians'
[Devonian-Paleozoic]
in so 400,418,900-446,944,513 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and describing the 'Conquering of the Land from the Seas'



Age 3 = 81,250,000 Great Platonic Circle Years as the 'Age of the Reptoid-Paramammal'
[Cretaceous-Mesozoic]
in so 80,083,780-89,388,903 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and describing the extension of the reptilian rootbrain by the mammalian midbrain in the Pecylosaurs and the first primates as ancestors for the lineage of the apes.



Age 4 = 16,250,000 Great Platonic Circle Years as the 'Age of the Primate-Mammals'
[Neogene-Cenozoic]
in so 16,016,756-17,877,781 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and descriptive for the emergence of the ancestral apes as genetic basis for the apeman



Age 5 = 3,250,000 Great Platonic Circle Years as the 'Age of Ape-Man'
[Neogene-Cenozoic]
in so 3,203,351.2-3,575,556 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node as descriptive for the ascent of Homo Habilis from Australopithecines stock



Age 6 = 650,000 Great Platonic Circle Years as the 'Age of Homo Erectus'
[Quaternary-Cenozoic]
in so 640,670-715,111 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and specifying the diversity of the Homo Habilis stock branching into Home Erectus



Age 7 = 130,000 Great Platonic Circle Years as the 'Age of Homo Sapiens'

in about 128,134-143,022 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and defining the emergence of Homo Sapiens as the ancestor for Homo Sapiens Sapiens or 'Modern Man' in the Cro Magnon stock and 'Mitochodrial Eve' in the Würm glacial period (110,000 to 12,000 years ago) following the previous Riss/Illinoian glacial period (200,000-130,000 years ago). This last glacial period is bounded in the Pleistocene as the 'Age of man' in the chronos of 2,588,000 years to 12,500 years ago approximately and is defined in the 'Ice Age' with respect to the retreat of continental glaciers.



Age 8 = 26,000 Great Platonic Years of 360 'Days' as 9,360,000 'Mean Solar Days' as the 'Age of Homo Sapiens Sapiens'

in 25,626.81-28,604.5 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and defining the beginning of the last 5 Longcount Cycles in 13 Mayan Baktuns of 144,000 Kin-Days each. This is astrophysically matched to a present terrestrial precession of the planetary axis of rotation about the celestial poles; and which cyclic completion spans a 'precessional age' of 26,000 circle years.



Age 9 = 5,200 Great Platonic Years of 360 Mayan Kin as 1,872,000 'Mean Solar Days' as the 'Age of Homo Sapiens Sapiens Astralis'

in 5,125.36-5,720.89 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node and beginning August 11th, 3114 BC as Mayan date 0.0.0.0.0 4 Ahau 8 Cumku to December 21st, 2012 AD as 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ahau 3 Kankin in its final extent and dating back so 595.53 'Civil Years' or 217,512.1 Kin to January 31st, 3709 BC Gregorian and March 1st, 3710 BC Julian in the Mayan Longcount -2.9.15.14.8 8 Lamat 11 Pop and as the summation of 1 Baktun (144,000 Kin); 10 Katun (72,000 Kin); 4 Tun (1,440 Kin); 3 Vinal (60 Kin) and 12 Kin to a daycount of 144,000 10x7,200 4x360 3x20 12=217,512.




The Pentagonal symmetry subdivides the ninth age in 9 subages in the Circular Cyclicity of 360/5=72


Subage 1 = 1,872,000/5=374,400 -417,902.4 Kin as the Time of Millennial Transition for the Human Civilisation

in 1,025.07-1,144.18 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node in the dates

10.1.19.2.18 13 Edznab 6 Muan; October 17th, 868 Gregorian and October 13th, 868 Julian and

10.8.0.0.0 4 Ahau 13 Cumku; November 25th, 987 Gregorian and November 20th, 987 Julian in a 119.11 year variance



Subage 2 = 374,400/5=74,880 -83,580.5 Kin as the Time of the Scientific Reasoning in Universal Applicability

in 205.01-228.84 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node in the dates

12.8.7.15.0 1 Ahau 8 Kankin; February 19th, 1784 and

12.9.12.0.0 4 Ahau 8 Zac; December 17th, 1807 in a 23.83 year variance



Subage 3 = 74,800/5=14,976 Kin -16,716.1 Kin as the Time for the Preparation of the Inside Cocoon

in 41.00-45.77 'Civil Years' from the 2012-Node in the dates

12.17.13.10.4 6 Kan 17 Kayab; March 17th, 1967 and

12.17.18.7.4 4 Kan 12 Mac; December 21st, 1971 in a 4.76 year or a 1,740 day variance





Subage 4 = 14,976/5=2,995.2 Kin -3,343.22 Kin as the Time for the Preparation of the Outside Cocoon in the Warpzone

in 8.201-9.153 'Civil Years' or 2,995-3,343 'Civil Days' from the 2012-Node in the dates

12.19.10.12.17 2 Caban 5 Zac; October 26th, 2003 and

12.19.11.12.5 12 Chiccan 8 Yax; October 8th, 2004 in a 0.953 year or a 348 day variance



Subage 5 = 2,995.2/5=599.04 -668.64 Kin as the Time for the 1980 anniversarial Logos mapping in the Warpzone

in 1.640-1.831 'Civil Years' or 599-669 'Civil Days' from the 2012-Node in the dates

12.19.18.2.11 11 Chuen 4 Kayab; February 21st, 2011 and

12.19.18.6.1 3 Imix 9 Uo; May 1st, 2011 in a 0.191 year or a 70 day variance



Subage 6 = 599.04/5=119.808 -133.729 Kin as the Time of the Gestation and Pregnancy in the Warpzone

in 0.328-0.366 'Civil Years' or 120-134 'Civil Days' from the 2012-Node in the dates

12.19.19.11.6 13 Cimi 9 Yaxkin; August 9th, 2012 and

12.19.19.12.0 1 Ahau 3 Mol; August 23rd, 2012 in a 0.038 year or a 14 day variance



Subage 7 = 119.808/5=23.9616 -26.746 Kin as the Time of the 13th Starsign of Dinah Arachne Ophiuchus

in 0.066-0.073 'Civil Years' or 24-27 'Civil Days' from the 2012-Node in the dates

12.19.19.16.13 3 Ben 16 Ceh; November 24th, 2012 and

12.19.19.16.16 6 Cib 19Ceh; November 27th, 2012 in a 0.007 year or a 3 day variance



Subage 8 = 23.9616/5=4.79232 -5.34915 Kin as the Time of the Pains of the Labour for the Gaian Rebirth as a Starplanet

in 0.013-0.015 'Civil Years' or 4.7-5.3 'Civil Days' from the 2012-Node in the dates

12.19.19.17.14 11 Ix 17Mac; December 15th, 2012 and

12.19.19.17.15 12 Men 18 Mac; December 16th, 2012 in a 0.002 year or a 'shortened' 1 day variance





Subage 9 = 4.79232/5=0.958464 -1.069830 Kin as the Time of the Birth of the New World

in 0.0026-0.0029 'Civil Years' or the 'Evening of Metamorphosis' before the 2012-Node in the dates

12.19.19.17.19 3 Cauac 2 Kankin; December 20th, 2012 and

13.0.0.0.0 4 Ahau 3 Kankin; December 21st, 2012 in a 0.0003 year or a 0.11 day or a 3 hour variation {2º40'22"}






Age 10 = 360 days from December 21st, 2012 as December 16th, 2013 and as Mayan date 13.0.1.0.0 13 Ahau 18 Mac, then specifies the New Starhuman Identity as a hybridisation between the Homo Sapiens Sapiens and the ET.




All ETs could begin their own homecoming from so 2.2 billion years ago and at an approximate halfway point of the physical creation of Gaia as a planetary sphere of influence within the Milky Way galaxy and when the Big Bang lightspeed expansion reached its mirror potential (situated omni-scientifically at a 16.9 billion spacetime coordinate).



In generalised terminology then; the ET is seeking to hybridise its magnetopolarisation of the waveform of the mind-intellect with the electropolarisation of the particularised bodyforms of the mind-emotional or mind-instinctual.

As this instinctual mind is coupled to a space-intrinsic consciousness of all spacetime defined metric coordinates; the Gaian nonhuman lifeforms become the complementary 'missing links' in the merkabahs of all extraterrestrial sentiences.

This is rendered imperative in the definition of this spacial consciousness as a inertia inependent quantum angular acceleration acting upon the quantisation of spacetime parameters in the form of wormhole equivalents.



In other words, ALL Gaian nonhuman lifeforms and including mineral, fungi, bacteria, viruses, flora and fauna represent the ET particularised and individualised bodyforms or morphogenetic merkabahs.

The nonhuman lifeforms so are destined to couple their electropolar capacitances, defined in groupminded waveforms or 'hive souls' to the magnetopolar inductances of the ET waveminds of the extraterrestrial intelligences.

The presence of the humanoid, carrying a unique individuation, both ET-intelligent and Gaian-instinctual; so serves as the Genetic Bridge between the electropolar cosmic ID and the magnetopolar cosmic ID; both selfinductive in activated genomatic expressions, but suppressed in the mutual inductions because of the cocooning of the gaian environments.

The ET so became instrumental in inducing itself in the Homo Sapiens Sapiens, once a sufficient evolutionary plateau for the processing of the cosmic consciousness became possible in the overall timeline of the cosmogenesis.

The so called humanoid so represents an already hybridised cosmic merkabah, having evolved physically and emotionally in the Gaian Instinct of the nonhuman genomatic templates in the electrocapacitative C-factors, as well as having attained magnetoinductive L-factors via the waveforms of the ETs.

Human associations with the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms so represents the 'humanisation' of the ET in a desired modality of interspecies communication and renders the 'pet' and the 'familiar' as a true partnership between the waveformed ET and the individuated 'Familiar Friend'.

In more general terms, the mutual and self-induction of the genomatic elements of the ElectroMagnetic Monopolar Radiation or EMMR defines the so called 'Spirit of the Source Energy' interacting and communicating with itself in the holofractal components of the Holographic Omniverse.



The ET has accumulated great wisdom and technology in the extraterrestrial evolution away from the Gaian Impedence Bubble; albeit remaining 'consciousness coupled' to the Cocoon of the 'Cosmic Creation Mother' via the 'missing' C-factors of the ET genomatic templates.

This ET technology is consciousness based and defined in the wormhole physics of the cosmogenesis.

This technology so is founded on the EMMR and the omniphysics of the light matrix as the quantisation of spacetime in the original fundamentals of the cosmology of the matter based birth of the universe as a quantum defined coupling between consciousness and the inertial parameters of space and time and mass related to the nature of both electropolar and magnetopolar 'charges'.

The Starships and the Cities of extraterrestrial civilisations so are not manifest as similar to Gaian technology as developed within the Impedance Field of the light inversion; but are defined in a higher dimensional expression of the light matrix.

There exist thus many ET civilisations, which are manifest in 'Cities of monopolar light energy' and where this 'light energy' represents a dedensified energy structure of 'Light in Stasis', meaning that the Invariance of the Electromagnetic Radiation or EMR, say as manifested in the Gaian Resistance Field as the Light from the Stars is circularised in a higher dimensional densification of the Bosonic Selfstate Quantum and as a Pairing of the Fermionic Selfstate of the say atomic structure common in the terrestrial physics.

The Lightships of the ETs so can be built to specifications of a more dense atomic physics; but require the existence of a 4th hyperspace dimension to become materializable in the Gaian cocoon of the light inversion.



The Gaian rebirth at the nexus point will 'open up and reglue' the original wormhole quantum of the cosmogony in a 'poleshift' mirror reversal of a galactic signal and so allow a 4th spacial dimension to become accessible for the omniverse.

As this hyperspace transformation will occur at the Gaian planetary center; it will take just 7 seconds for the returning and reflected signal of the wormhole at the centre of the Earth to reverse its eonold long accumulation of data collection as a Black Hole equivalent in 5D hyperspacetime to become a 5D hyperspacetime White Hole .

As the radial displacement of the Gaian Hill Sphere is so 2.1 million kiklometers the lighspeeded signal will become a wavefront reaching this coordinate in 2.1 million km/c and so about 7 seconds.

This 7 second interval will then be synchronised and calibrated with all ET civilisations within the 2,200 million extent of the nodal universe as defined in the cosmology of the quantum relativity.

So the ET civilisations will become enabled to activate their own Impedence Cocoons and so partake in their hitherto elusive densification of the source energy in their consciousness couplings to the EMMR.

This 'densification' was suppressed and restricted to the Gaian Mother template to allow the greater cosmic agenda to follow its course of development.

This nexus point for the ET evolution so will complete a cycle which had begun 2.2 billuion years earlier.

At this nexus point, the extra-Gaian realm became potentialized (in memory activation) in the electromagnetic return of the higher dimensional timearrow coordinate and when technically, the Universal Protoverse Seedling in 11 dimensions first attained its maximum potential to extend itself and so reflect back into the lower dimensional realms and also to refract into the higher dimensional spacetime of 12D, namely the 'Outside Exile' of the Creator/Father.

As Gaia as a soul, existed in physicality at this nexus coordinate; the extraterrestrial universe became conscious and aware of their own Mother and could begin to focus their attention and homecoming plans on their 'Womb of the Physicality' of their origins.

So the ET visitations begun about 2.2 billion years ago and when the terestrial atmosphere became oxygen enriched to allow hitherto aquatic primitive lifeforms to extend thier habitats into airborne and terrestrial environments.



On a soul level, the encompassing Gaian planetary mother soul then greatly enhanced its own experiences and partitioned interactions in environmental coevolutions of increasingly complex biological and biochemical lifeforms.

This coevolution was 'watched' by the extraterrestrial lifeforms not evolved from the Gaian soul complex and for the purpose to eventually synergize their own ET cosmo evolotions with that of their Cosmic Home of the Cosmogenesis of the Universe.

This 'watching' and 'waiting' by the ETs would end, once the 'Earthlings' would have evolved physically and mentally to a stage of self remembrance regarding their own familiar relationship and partnership with the original CreatorCreation Monad of the FatherMother defined before the Universe was born into physical materiality.

All 'Human Recallers' would be required to claim their cosmic inheritances as Sons and Daughters of their Father Creator and their Mother Gaia.

In doing so, their old humanity would graduate to a Starhuman Remembrance and all such acolytes would become enabled to process their own Shadows in the Sons transmutating into SonDaughters and all daughters metamorphosing into DaughterSons - so RECREATING the original FatherMother of the Monadic Duality in a Mirrored FatherMother Motherfather Dyadic Monad or Harmonized Unity, Oneness or Wholesomeness.

This Inner Akash, which will never be discovered; so resides within any and all StarHuman Children of the FatherMother.

Arachne-Phoenix




Fohat, February 23rd, 2011

basically this explains the creation and evolution of the universe, and gives insight into why this hybridisation program is in effect at this time, duality combining in order to progress further.



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Re: The Arachne thread

Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:43 pm


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#24927 1 week, 2 days ago - February 23rd, 2011 Fohat wrote:
basically this explains the creation and evolution of the universe, and gives insight into why this hybridisation program is in effect at this time, duality combining in order to progress further.


Indeed, dear Fohat. You are rapidly becoming a wisdomkeeper should you fathom your own words in their deeper essences.

You exhibit the secret of the harmonisation of the human dilemma, warring between its 'Feeling Heart' and its 'Thinking Mind' in the duality of the within and the without.

Reverse the process in a 'Feeling Mind' and a 'Thinking Heart of Reason' and you bring peace to the inner conflicts of the orginal paradox of creation.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#24978 1 week, 2 days ago - February 23rd, 2011 Just out of curiosity, I started this post in the Science and Tech section, why was it moved here?




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#24980 1 week, 2 days ago - February 23rd, 2011 extraterrestrial life is in the title




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25122 1 week, 2 days ago - February 24th, 2011 Arachne wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I started this post in the Science and Tech section, why was it moved here?


Hi there
Regarding the move - I sent you a pm on that.

It actually rings and feels very similar to the work of Anna Hays A.D. which falls more into the realm of Contactee and thus alien of origin.

Without sighting references that backs up your info or anything supported by mainstream science, which is more what the Science and Tech. Section is for, it seem less confusing to simply put it here.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25127 1 week, 2 days ago - February 24th, 2011 Hi Arachne,

Can I ask why you've published a mini-novel in a forum? I've read about half of it and there are things I disagree with but there's not much opportunity for a discussion here.

Can you tell me in one sentence what the point is?

Thank you

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25206 1 week, 1 day ago - February 24th, 2011 siriusblue wrote:
Hi Arachne,

Can I ask why you've published a mini-novel in a forum? I've read about half of it and there are things I disagree with but there's not much opportunity for a discussion here.
Can you tell me in one sentence what the point is?
Thank you


I had thoughts along that line too Thanks for pointing that out. lol

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25481 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Greetings again from the Elders of the Worlds!

The introductory message defines the agenda; it is as simple as that.

We are well aware about the works of Anna Hayes, which we consider quasi-science and sponsored by certain factions of the 'ruling and controlling' agencies upon this planet.

The keylontic 'quasi-sciences' are largely based on the 'channeled' information at the core of the 'Urantia Book' during and following the second world war and reflects the infantile astrophysical understanding from that period.

When for example galaxies were thought to be 'island nebulae' and the distance scales and large scale topology of the universe were still a great mystery (in the pre-Hubble universe of 1925).

The Ashayana Deane material so is perturbed in all its 'quasi-scientific' statements as to the structure of the worlds and universes and this is replicated in the keylontics.

From a metaphysical viewpoint; the unsound scientific basis of the Anna Hayes material can be ascertained in the somewhat presumptious attempt to change the symmetry of the millennia old Kabbalah as the Djed and the 'Tree of Life' from its three-tiered pathology of the 7 'clean sexes' of 'Noah's Ark' and the 2 'unclean sexes' {Genesis.7.2} to some more geometrically 'nice' construct based on the Geometric Doubling (Geometric Progression), instead of the 'correct and appropriate (for the cosmology emerging from the cosmogony) Fibonacci Algorithms, which are based on the methodology used by 'Mother Nature' to compress her data (say of reproduction from the genetic seeds) in a maximised compressed form and as seen in 'Nature's Shapes' and forms from a fivefolded class of supermembranes to Penrose tiling patterns and Shechtmanite quasicrystals to crystallines to viruses to galactic superclusters.

Another crucial point about the 'Urantian likeness of keylontics'; is the proposed singular 15th dimension of keylontics, as say the Christ-Apex of consciousness, which then patterns in descents (the sephirotic emanations of the true kabbalah) directly to the 'Paradise Sons', the 'Melchizedek Michael' and the structured worlds and subworlds - in a modus operandi reflective of the militaristic hierarchies of the Urantians.

I am familiar with dimensional omniphysics (meaning physics blended with its ontological metaphysics) and so am able to discern on the holographic antiDeSitter cosmology in the 5D hyperspace mapping of Hawking, Bekenstein and Maldacena and the rather distinct dimensional considerations at the core of Edward Witten's membrane physics in 11 and in Cumrun Vafa's 12 dimensions of the Bosonic chiral dimensional divide in 10 clockwise and 16 counterclockwise chiralities of the bosonic superstring precursor.

Therefore on logistical and metaphysical grounds alone; any notion of dimensions higher than 12 in a necessitated modular duality (T-duality technical) of any cosmology should not be labeled as being 'scientifically sound'.
And this despite some scientific philosophers, who might consider membrane omniphysics in a holographic universe as being 'speculative'.
Their numbers are decreasing by the hour.


If you or any of the other children here find it too difficult to assess well researched information of science based content and if any of you feel uncomfortable with such data; then don't feel obliged to do so.

Thank you for your replies; chakra and siriusblue.

I am not here to 'preach to choirs' or to 'convert' anyone.

This was an attempt for simple data sharing F.Y.I Only.

If this agenda was misunderstood, as it seemes to have been by overzeaolus proponents of some 'other nous' and some 'other truth and wisdom'; then we shall no longer share this information and move on to other locations, where our attempts are more appreciated.

We so shall no longer post on these forums.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25493 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 all peoples in this present density have their own paths to follow, to each their own.

life is a lesson, learn it.




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25499 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 [quote="
This was an attempt for simple data sharing F.Y.I Only.

If this agenda was misunderstood, as it seemes to have been by overzeaolus proponents of some 'other nous' and some 'other truth and wisdom'; then we shall no longer share this information and move on to other locations, where our attempts are more appreciated.

We so shall no longer post on these forums.

Arachne[/quote]


Please do keep posting here, you are most welcome your posts are very interesting and Please fell free to share your cool info here,, with no explanations to people that have their People skills box left without a check

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25517 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 How can a black hole exist in the center of a planet?

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Re: The Arachne thread

Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:45 pm


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25536 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 siriusblue wrote:
How can a black hole exist in the center of a planet?


The Schwarzschild Radius of ANY planet can be calculated by the formula: Rcurvature = 2GM/c2. So the Gravity Law of Newton clearly defines the center of ANY mass has being the higher dimensional concentration of the ENTIRE MASS. So calculating M=Mearth in the formula gives you the golfball size AT the centre of the earth by Newton's Law of Gravitation as a central force Fgrav=GmM/r2.

THE BASIC equation and solution for the field equations of Einstein's General Relativity theory.

Chaska108 wrote:
Please do keep posting here, you are most welcome your posts are very interesting and Please fell free to share your cool info here,, with no explanations to people that have their People skills box left without a check


Yes Chaska108, since you so kindly requested am I answering this question and only for that reason. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25541 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Thank you Arachne. I like to look up this sort of information and I looked up the Schwarzschild Radius.

It says: The physical significance of this singularity, and whether this singularity could ever occur in nature, was debated for many decades; a general acceptance of the possibility of a black hole did not occur until the second half of the 20th century.

It also says this:
The significance of the singularity at r = 2M (in natural units) was first raised by Jacques Hadamard, who, during a conference in Paris in 1922, asked what might happen if a physical system could ever obtain this singularity. Albert Einstein insisted that it could not, pointing out the dire consequences for the universe, and jokingly referred to the singularity as the "Hadamard disaster".[4]

Earth's black hole, IF it existed would be the size of a peanut and can only exist if all of earth was compressed into that space...

Can you please explain the origin of your science? Thank you

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25550 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 You are always welcome siriusblue!

References like wiki or even encyclopedias are well behind the developments in the 'speculative' sciences and fields of research.

Your statements so are rather out of date in terms of what the consensus physical standards are at the present time.

The most recent breakthroughs revolve about 'proving' string theory in the affine relationships between classical statistical entropy laws, say Shannon entropy or say Boltzmann-Maxwellian velocity distributions of fermions and the Bose-Einstein statistics of bosons - with the thermodynamic Black Hole physics of the event horizon entropy, say the 2-dimensional equivalence of surface manifolds to their enclosed 3-dimensional volumes.

This means in simpler terms, that counting the permutation states of what are called quantum self-states as a statistical number count of the Hawking radiation spectra of the Hawking Black Holes is shown to be the same as calculating the string couplings defined in the Black Hole surface as a collection of quantised Planck-Areas.

This was done about 12 years ago and followed the mathematical proof by Greene, Aspinwall and Morrison at Princeton (where Ed Witten hides lol); that spacetime itself can RIP apart and REGLUE itself under something called the Modular Mirror Symmetry in membrane theory.

But as this kind of science is a little too technical for TV and the mainstream, only the exponents in the fields know about those actual 'proofs' of string physics.

The mainstream press and the armchair critics still says that string physics is only an untested theory and such claptrap.
It's the only game in town and all 'serious' physicists know it.

I can post a rather technical article (yes written by us lol and not copy pasted from someplace), which delves into this a bit further, but this would 'scare' some members here even further, so we refrain atm.

It suffices to say, that if you google Maldacena Holographic Universe and the AdS/CFT', then you will gain some understanding where the 'deeper physics', hidden from the mainstream audience, is moving to.
I can give you however a nice Scientific American reference, which is digestible for the unfamiliar.

The Illusion of Gravity

homepage.mac.com/photomorphose/documents/qpdf.pdf

We agree and have extended the points raised in this article and we have a commentary someplace, we can find to share, if anyone wishes to see it.

Well then, this has answered your question?

Perhaps not, should you wish to see a list of academic titles and names to check on personality issues.

The individual identities are floundered about on many forums in egocentric competitions; places which you visit and we have chosen to remain anonymous - with the WORDS of PSALMS becoming identical to the SWORD of PLASMAS and the Tetragrammaton of YHWH of the older twosided cosmogony of the metaphysics being rendered Möbian twisted in its onesidedness of the Pentagrammaton of YHWHY and henceforth the 'memeplexed defeat' of the 'fake deity' of the gnosis.

It shall do, to say that we have indeed university degrees in mathematics and in physics.
If this is not sufficient for you, we are a little sorry; but the present precarious state of the Mother Planet requires our agency to be what it is.

Thank You sweet Sirius Blue; we are familiar with Our relatives from the 'Barking DogStars'; our ancestors in mind, but our descendent of the merkabahed starhuman body.

Shalom

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25558 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Arachne wrote:
Greetings again from the Elders of the Worlds!


If you or any of the other children here find it too difficult to assess well researched information of science based content and if any of you feel uncomfortable with such data; then don't feel obliged to do so.

Thank you for your replies; chakra and siriusblue.

I am not here to 'preach to choirs' or to 'convert' anyone.
This was an attempt for simple data sharing F.Y.I Only.
If this agenda was misunderstood, as it seemes to have been by overzeaolus proponents of some 'other nous' and some 'other truth and wisdom'; then we shall no longer share this information and move on to other locations, where our attempts are more appreciated.
We so shall no longer post on these forums.
Arachne


Condescending remarks and elitist comments or references would also not be something that allows anyone to be inspired by your tomes.

Elders - true elders have with them the wisdom of a legacy that all develop intellectually at their own rate as determined by their own higher self - not by another self perceived authority. Intellectual pursuits and accomplishments in physics is one thing but is not the single path of total enlightenment.

Forums are not just simply depositories for data - they are to also encourage dialog, debate, questioning and fact gathering.

If this is something that does not fit into your agenda - maybe then this is not the right format for you.

But seriously what really did you expect - no one here claimed that upon signing in, one needed membership in Mensa to be a primary criteria for participating in a public online forum.

Maybe Mensa would then be more accepting and suited to - your pursuits, agenda and of course superior intellect.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25559 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 He he! Arachne, your answers are fascinating and I have plenty more questions.

You haven't really addressed the point that Albert Einstein says it is impossible to create this singularity.
To reduce earth to the size of 9mm would create so much kinetic energy that the elements involved would move faster than the speed of light and Einstein says that that is impossible.

Not only that, but the Schwarzschild radius is based on MASS not some energy field as you stated at the begining of your discourse. You also estimated the size of earth to the wrong size, unless you are relying on the energy field size but then energy does not contain MASS so cannot be reduced within the Schwazchild radius.

You are right, I am not a physicist and I grapple with these concepts as best I can but I appreciate it when somone is willing to take the bull by the horns and explain it to us.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25598 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 siriusblue wrote:
He he! Arachne, your answers are fascinating and I have plenty more questions.

You haven't really addressed the point that Albert Einstein says it is impossible to create this singularity.
To reduce earth to the size of 9mm would create so much kinetic energy that the elements involved would move faster than the speed of light and Einstein says that that is impossible.

Not only that, but the Schwarzschild radius is based on MASS not some energy field as you stated at the begining of your discourse. You also estimated the size of earth to the wrong size, unless you are relying on the energy field size but then energy does not contain MASS so cannot be reduced within the Schwarzchild radius.

You are right, I am not a physicist and I grapple with these concepts as best I can but I appreciate it when somone is willing to take the bull by the horns and explain it to us.



You are welcome siriusblue!

You do not have to be a physicist to receive value from our information.
Whenever we are asked in amicable terms to clarify, we shall do so and we shall attempt to simplify as good as we can in the context of the enquiries.

We shall however not reply to ad hominem attacks and comments 'baiting' to invite particular quarrelsome responses.
Those stem in most instances from well meaning participators who have been shaken out of their mental comfort zones and who then find rational and intelligent enquiry as you are displaying as not 'worthy' of their efforts and as token of their, in both cases, unwarranted ideas of either inferiority or superiority under whatever criteria applied.

We are not participating here to be either liked or hated or to be popular. There is enough of this behaviour wandering about as the memetic- and human mind created energies it represents in the deeper essences.

This information cannot be found anyplace else on the terrestrial web; as it is part of an encompassing timeline indicated in the introductory messages.
So it stands to reason, that many will find this material confronting and offensive - it is novel and unprecedented and not as yet in the academic libraries as you understand them.

So there will be a perhaps majority percentage of readers coming across this data, who will prefer to see the end of it and to stop the 'weirdness data' of the 'science or what is it'?

To those participators we suggest to contact the administration in an effort to stipulate the unsuitability of this material on an 'alternative' forum and information base.

Also, we only have agreed to answer your question siriusblue, because of the asking of chaska.
If no participation ensues, we will not bother to share information here and be on our ways. In this way then, the 'threat to the human mind' unfamiliar with 'new unheared' things will simply go away.


We have answered your query about Einstein's singularity siriusblue.
Albert Einstein also could not accept the now well established quantum entanglement of the nonlocality effects of the foundations of the holofractal universe.

The quantum chromodynamics of the nucleus was not yet born and the quantum electrodynamics of the electroweak unification was still in its infancy.

Einstein's relativity theories are true classical models based on Euclidean well known geometry of continuous space and time and matter parameters.
The quantum physics is quantum geometric and is discrete, say like the screen on your monitor consisting of pixels of a natural minimised size.

To show to you that the wormhole at the centre of the earth is a golfball sized Möbian twist (actually a Klein Bottle Dragon) requires for us to explain to you the nature of mass as Maxwell's famous displacement current and the gravitational constant of Newton applied in the dark energy-dark matter scenarios, which have become mainstreamed in a more general descriptive sense.

See dear starlady; your basic ideas of what mass is, is erroneous.
One of the foundations of General Relativity is called the 'Principle of Equivalence', stating that 'Inertial Mass' is equivalent to 'Gravitational Mass'. This means that the Newtonian famous acceleration in F=ma (Force=MassxAcceleration) in the context of gravitation allows description of any physically experienced linear acceleration as being the same as a Gravitational Field.

This is just what you queried. Any sound reference will substantiate what we have just said and in other words: MASS=ENERGY=GRAVITATIONAL FIELD. To which we might now add MASS=MONOPOLIC Magnetic superconductive Charge as the Maxwellian displacement current of magnetic monopoles.

To be precise the gravitational constant inside a Black Hole is increased by so 60% from the textbook value of so 6.7x10-11 G-units to 1.11x10-10 G-units and this latter value is defined in so called Stoney Units where the electric Coulomb charge becomes the higher dimensional value in the Planck-Length as the well studied minimum displacement in the Heisenberg Matrix of the so called Uncertainty Principle in e/c2=Planck-LengthxAlpha {the electromagnetic finestructure constant, descriptive of the matter-light interaction probability as 1/137}.

Now we do not wish to bombard you here with FACTS see, as the natural inclination of many unfamiliar with so much technical nomenclature is to 'feel dumb' or some other such self depreciating labeling.

It is UNFAMILIARITY not lack of intelligence. We here cannot speak or write Chinese; so how 'dumb' and ignorant are we?
We truly wish, that you could see and understand this; but we have written this 'scribble', so as to indicate to you what kind of 'proof' you require and ask for in your search for the validations.

So yes, we can show to you precisely why the 5d Gaia will descend before ascending as seen in some videos on the net now with polar vortices apparently 'sucking in' the polar atmosphere?

But unless you query a formulation or a deeper concept, such as the 'Nature of Mass' or the 'Nature of electric- and magnetic Charges' and are then prepared to peruse and study the well established physical laws and cosmologies; what would it do for you, except confuse you more?

You gave credence to data about Black Holes at least six decades in the past and to apply the 'golfball scale' all you need to do is add 60% to the 9 mm to get 9x1.6=14.4 mm and you get the golfball size at the centre of the earth.

See the Earth is NOT hollow in 3D; but it is hollow in 4D as the Black Hole gravitational mass (or inertia) equivalence.

So much 'channeling' and insider data and 'whistle blowing' has confused the serious searchers and the starseed of Abraham and Sarah as archetypes for all men and women incarnatedd on gaia anytima and anyplace, albeit subjet to a grand metamorphosis when the warpzone comes to an end in 2013.

There is much to share and expose, should the questions be asked.
Can you discern a difference here, dear stardaughter?
In some places many questions are asked, which rermain unanswered. In other places you can ask and your question shall be honoured, if in context of honour and integrity and not in sarcasm and innuendo.

From the Abducted Ones

Arachne-Phoenix




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25605 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Hi Arachne,

From the little I know about a lot, its clear your thinking is out of the box...'relativity' speaking.

Some pretty heady guys in my listening circle are also way beyond Einstein, so you got me interested.

Any chance of passing me a schematic for a receiver to translate cosmic energy into free energy ?

I'd have done it long ago but my interest in electricity based technology got side tracked in my development.

'The man who open sources 'free energy' dines for free anywhere'

And it just so happens, I like to travel.

Regards...




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25633 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Cap-Z-ro wrote:
Hi Arachne,

From the little I know about a lot, its clear your thinking is out of the box...'relativity' speaking.

Some pretty heady guys in my listening circle are also way beyond Einstein, so you got me interested.

Any chance of passing me a schematic for a receiver to translate cosmic energy into free energy ?

I'd have done it long ago but my interest in electricity based technology got side tracked in my development.

'The man who open sources 'free energy' dines for free anywhere'

And it just so happens, I like to travel.

Regards...


Well Infinity=0+0=8 Cap its both easy and difficult!

You see the zpe is based on the minimisation quantization of what spacetime is and this minimum config is both upper bounded and lower bounded by what is definable as space and time and their derivatives in parametric associations, say kinematic entropy temperature, mass and molarity.

I am a little presumptious here in using your reply as indicating that you having a basic familiarity with the semantics used. So if it is gobbledegook to you i apologize beforehand.

Technically, this is called the modular T-duality of the five superstring classes (without SUSY, as the supersymmetry is already inherent in the inflation epoch of the de Broglie phase velocity in the 11D of the Witten hypersphere).

This was recently experimentally validated in those pics of the cosmic background radiation spectrum showing the concentric circles. You might be aware of the furore this caused in the camps of the multiverse bangers and the brane colliders (Steinhardt, Albrecht, Turok and co).

Reality is that they have made a big conceptional error in postulating those temperature spectra to
have FOLLOWED the so called quantum Big Bang.

It was BEFORE and definitive for the string-membrane epoch of the hyperaccelerated superluminal (or tachyonic) wavematter cosmology.

And here then is your problem.

Because the five string classes, which are actually experimentally observed every day in Cosmic Ray spectra; are NOT all at the Planck scale but are graduating from the Planck Energy to the Weyl Energy.
The Weyl energy of about 12,400,000 GeV then DEFINES the Quantum Big Bang at a definitive frequency.
This requency is 3 thousand million billion trillion Hertz, an easy number to remember.
This frequency is the wormhole frequency where the zpe can be tapped like a battery in spacetime shear and so requires the wormhole spacetime displacement.

This displacement is a wavelength of 0.0000000000000000000001 meters (22 zeros if i made a counting error).

So the easy thing is that should spacetime itself rip and repair as has been mathematically established at Princeton so 15 years ago; then the 4D space would replace the 3D space and this is what is termed the 'Ascension of Gaia' in proper astro-quantum-physical terminology.

But this ripping and repairing has not happened yet and the universe is still embeddded in a local 4D Euclidean flat spacetime metric which becomes a 4D Kaluza-Klein curved metric on the larger scales of the universe's topology.

This ripping and tearing is indicated in the earlier posts as a Black Hole into a White Hole transformation of the data collected by the Gaian environment throughout its 4.7 billion year history.

So the 'troubles of the earth and the human civilisation' are far far more important in the cosmic 'masterplan' and timeline, than the potential selfdestruction of the terrans.

The troubles of mankind are of cosmic significance, because the entire history, say in terms or parameters of 'consciousness' are being concentrated in the wormholed Gaia as the Mother of the Universe .

Technically again, if you squash a geometric circle it will double the centre of the circle into a binary elliptical (star)system with two foci.
Henceforth all this misguided razzamatazz about Nibiru and Nemesis, brown and red dwarves visiting the terrestrial orbits and 'rogue' comets like eridanus.

The 'vibes' of many starchildren are indeed on the mark and the 'starhuman heart KNOWS, but the explanations etc from the 'experts' and the 'ptb' are all trapped in a limited database accessible to them.

Your query about the 'free energy' so becomes related to a 4th space dimension rendering the Euclidean 3D space as a curved 'whatever' space and corollarily the 4D spacetime of Minkowski will be rendered a 5D spacetime and as proposed by people 'on the right track' on this like Kaluza, Klein and even Haramein (albeit his proton Black Hole replacing the strong interaction being rather off this track).

So dear infinity-zero, you and all will have to wait for the Gaian rebirth in 2012; for the data collection of the absorbing Black Hole equivalence to transform into a White Hole data emitter.

I recommend watching the first startrek movie - "Star Trek, the Motion Picture"; as this film is technically relatively primitive (little grandiose special effects), but is written in a brilliant script which encompasses this 'masterplan' of the creator in magnificent fashion, which most humans have missed (otherwise IT would be a discussion point and not the blah blah yada yada nowadays qualifying as a good topic to debate about).


The New Gaia is Nibiru and Nemesis and She shall SHINE Her Dark Light (as Hawking Radiation) for the entire universe and all ET civilisations to share.
Then like the Pioneer probes, all ETs will have access to the sorry state of human affairs and the human's selfsacrifice to show the Universe of HOW NOT to BE a Galactic Civilisation.

Then the great sufferings of the human groupsoul will realise, that they/it have/has been the teachers and Pioneers for the Cosmos and the Friends of All in those days and that it was a noble quest and worthwhile after all, after all the memeplex wars and the conflicts in the airzones and the facts and sorrows and tears.

Again, I apologise if this was 'gobbledegook', but you asked for it.

Finally then, the free energy devices of today use the magneto monopolic physics of the mass-monopolic gravito-electric magnetic superconductivity effects and in a novel reformulation of the Biot-Savart law, describing 'Magnetic Flux Density'.

Thank you for your question.

Phoenix-Arachne




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25642 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Arachne,

Thank you for posting here on this forum. I find it difficult to understand much of what you are sharing with us, as it is , from the perspective of a person only at the beginnings of grasping the true nature of how the omniverse funtions, rather deep discussion. Therefore, I am not going to make any false presumptions, but rather take what you offer at face value, for what it's worth. I will absorb as much as I can.
I have a few questions: You mentioned the hunab ku, and gaian activation in 2012. Is this related to the return of Nibiru? And your statement "The New Gaia is Nibiru and nemesis and She shall SHINE Her dark Light for the entire universe and all ET civilisations to share."I would like some clarification on, if you can.
The buzz going around is that Nibiru is inbound now, and we will begin to feel more manifestations of change on this planet in the months to come. Can you confirm this to us? Are we going to have a consciousness shift, and remember who we are? Please sahare all you can with us about this inbound body and what it is.

thanks again for coming to the forum




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25647 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Thanks for answering Arachne...as i alluded to earlier, I lack the technical and mathematical background to fully understand and follow your concepts.

I have only a passing familiarity of what you were trying to convey.

You wouldn't have a simple solid state rare earth magnet device schematic you could spare do you ?

Just to get us by until I have the free time to properly educate myself in the field, and build one based on cosmic energy...I think I could do with some r&r on mars.

Regards...




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Re: The Arachne thread

Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:48 pm


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25653 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 apothecary wrote:
Arachne,

Thank you for posting here on this forum. I find it difficult to understand much of what you are sharing with us, as it is , from the perspective of a person only at the beginnings of grasping the true nature of how the omniverse funtions, rather deep discussion. Therefore, I am not going to make any false presumptions, but rather take what you offer at face value, for what it's worth. I will absorb as much as I can.
I have a few questions: You mentioned the hunab ku, and gaian activation in 2012. Is this related to the return of Nibiru? And your statement "The New Gaia is Nibiru and nemesis and She shall SHINE Her dark Light for the entire universe and all ET civilisations to share."I would like some clarification on, if you can.
The buzz going around is that Nibiru is inbound now, and we will begin to feel more manifestations of change on this planet in the months to come. Can you confirm this to us? Are we going to have a consciousness shift, and remember who we are? Please share all you can with us about this inbound body and what it is.

thanks again for coming to the forum

Thank you for your kindness and objectivity Apothecary!

In Lak'ech - I Am Another Yourself!

in the Honour of the Mayan Grandparenthood of GrandMother SpiderWoman and GrandFather EagleMan



In the Beginning was The Word of Love and the Word of Love was with the Energy of Love and so the Word of Love became the Energy of Love and became all of the Worlds of Love.
John.1.1




But here allow me to indicate what is going on here and how this 'Play of the Gods and Goddesses of Gaia' relates to Our ordinary 3D humanness, which has not as yet attained transformation into its encompassing 4Dness of the promised lightbody.


The 'Time of the Confusions' manifests in a Restructuring of the Celestial Archetypes, known as the Starsigns of the zodiac; representing the Milky Way galaxy in the form of the Ouroborus, the Serpent who bites his own tail, thus closing a linearity into a circularity.



These old starsigns of Babylon and Mesopotamia are so 5000 years old in their present form and coincide with the last of Mayan (Planetary or Starry) Long Counts defined in 13 Baktuns, each of 144,000 Days or Kins - 13x144,000=1,872,000 days or so 5,125.362 Civil (Gregorian) Years.



The Galactic Long Count then defines the Distance between the Planetary manifestation of the Mayan Enddate of December 21st, 2012 of the Starry Long Count and the Galactic Center termed Hunab Ku or the 'Pathway of the Plumed Serpent Kukulkan (Quetzacoatl)' and as 'The Only One undescribable God or Creator'.

This distance then becomes 5x13=65 Baktuns or 9,360,000 days for 25,626.81 civil years.



A Signal or LovePhoton sent from the galactic centre that many days ago relative to the Mayan Enddate; so will require a precessional timeframe of the above count to travel all the way from Hunab Ku to the Center of the Earth.

Arrival of this signal will then manifest in a 'turning inside out' or POLESHIFT of the higher dimensionally defined Wormhole as a Black Hole Data collector or sourcesinked Einstein-Rosen Bridge or ERB.

Compressing all of the data of the collective inertia defined Gaian evolution history in such a Schwarzschild metric will result in a Black Hole ERB, the size of a golfball and so 3 centimeters across.



This Black Holed data of the Gaian 'Bottomless Pit' then will become a Gaian Vortex as a data emitting data source resending or reflecting as a Cosmic Focus Point, the hitherto collected data base of a human history entwined with the evolution of all other terrestrial lifeforms as a form of higher-dimesional radio station.



This will so reconfigure the 'Black Holed Gaia' as a 'White Holed Serpentina' as a Dark Planet Star bathing the entire universe in a new matrix of sourcesink energy streaming from the Moebian transformation of the Black Hole into a White Hole dyadically connected to itself as the wormholed ERB.



The thus collected 'pains and sorrows and joys and delights' of a planetary history, shall thus form a new cosmic background of experience for all intelligent lifeforms throughout the universe to share and draw their own experiences from; namely what the experienced reality for a galactic civilisation could become; should their origins become forgotten by its collective remembrance as a galactic group consciousness.




This
symbol is called
the Galactic Butterfly
which is said to represent all of
the consciousness that has ever existed
in this galaxy. This is all of our physical ancestors
both human, animal, reptile, fish, shell fish, plants as well
as the consciousness which organized all of the raw material from
a whirling disk into stars then planets and solar systems. Big Meaning. So
big that the original Maya had no symbol for this. In their civilization it was like
having no name for God. Just knowing the concept was good enough. Later this pattern
was devised by Toltec or Zapatec weavers as a pattern for blankets and this is where Jose Arguelles
came across it. He called it Hunab Ku. The indigenous peoples call it "The Galactic Butterfly". Butterflies are seen
as ancestors returning for a visit to physicality. Wearing one of these symbols is very powerful as it broadcasts your
reaching to actively join the consciousness of our galaxy.

Ian Xel Lungold


The New Birth or Rebirth of Gaia as Serpentina, encoded as 'In A Serpent' of a Wormhole dually selfentwined on Birthday Friday, December 21st, 2012; must be preceeded by a period of gestation of 265 days or kin and beginning on Sunday, April 1st, 2012.



This Impregnation Day ends a 2670=2300 370=1335 1335 day double period of a WarpTime Loop; beginning on Wednesday, December 8th, 2004 and mirrored in Monday, August 4th, 2008.



The dates and labelings above were transmitted to Gaia on a date precisely 40 days prior to the Mirror day of August 4th, 2008 and so on Saturday, June 25th, 2008 and following the June Solstice 2008 as seasonal trigger for the Gemini-Cancer transit and to begin a 7-year 'witnessing' period for the warptime ending on December 8th, 2011.

The recalibration of the grand Platonic year of exactly 5x13=65 baktuns, each of 144,000 'Sealed Days' - {yes apothecary YOU are one of the 'chosen ones' if you can 'embody' all starsigns in the 13th of the Ophiuchus - the Serpent Tamer see, therefore the labeling of Old Gaia as new Gaia Serpentina {In a Serpent} - will be followed by a 360 kin calibration of a Circle Year of 360 days to calibrate the divers Mayan ideas of Arguelles, Callemann and Major-Jenkins in the 13 Ahau label of December 16th, 2013.

These archetypes and symbols so of the 'Coming Serpents' as Kukulkan of the Maya and Gukumatz of the Toltecs and Quetzacoatl for the Aztecs and Incas, all label the 'Plumed Serpent Melchizedek' and the 'Serpent Rod' of Moses and the Staff or Caduceus of the Ibis of Egypt in Thoth as the Hermes Trismegistos and many more such names of the amens.


All humans in incarnation share the warpzone as witness operators, sharing in the secrets of the Logos and the creation in metaphysical-spiritual terms and translatable into omni-scientific archetypes and symbols of an advanced quantum mechanis of quantum relativity describing the holographic nature of the cosmos in both cosmogony as the ontology for the comogenesis of a cosmology.

It are those archetypes, which form the metaphysical reality for Nibiru and Nemesis and many other mythological stories, which became superposed onto the thoughtforms or memeplexes of the human creations throughout the eons.
It are humans, who create the the devils and the demons from their mental fears about the unknown.
Not that much has changed to the present day about this.

But the memeplexes have assumed 'an imaginary life' of their own see. Their creators in the humans have abandoned them in being so afraid of their own children of creation as the Neophilim and many such associations.
So there exists now a 'real despair' and 'madness' in the Gaian realm - more a human insanity of not being able to think clearly and rationally, than a true 'EVIL' which decodes as 'LIVE' backwards as a palindrome EVILLIVE=EVILLIVE=LIVEEVIL and as a cosmic humour from the creator of sorts.



The comet Elenin is approximating a 3600 year orbit or 3 times longer, according to some astronomers (the 3600 years are relevant for the Annunaki legends of Sitchin and co) and this might show you, that there are indeed many geophysical and astrophysical 'triggers' which 'substantiate' the mythologies in their metaphysical reaslit.
But Elenin will not hit Earth and even bypass the Moon, so ideas of physical catastrophies are misguided. Iow 2012 is happening NOW all around the globe, but its signatures are often misinterpreted by all sorts of well meaning agencies, for lack of the inner decoding of the gnosis data.

The sun is indeed changing as RahSol is the intermissiary from Hunab Ku, using the Sirian Stargates in the Milky Way galaxy and forming a liason with the extragalactic Andromeda galaxy within the Local Group.

But we shall not at this time talk too much about those affiliations as the timeline is not engaged yet to share this data.

Thank you for your welcome message starson of the elders.

Arachne-Phoenix




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25680 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Arachne,
Some time ago I purchased the book by Daniel Pinchbeck: 2012 The return of quetzalcoatl. I began to read, and then put it down, not taking it seriously due to his use of DMT and other drugs to obtain his material. Is this book a distortion? Are you familiar with it?

regards




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25713 1 week ago - February 25th, 2011 Infinity-zero said:

Thanks for answering Arachne...as i alluded to earlier, I lack the technical and mathematical background to fully understand and follow your concepts.

I have only a passing familiarity of what you were trying to convey.

You wouldn't have a simple solid state rare earth magnet device schematic you could spare do you ?

Just to get us by until I have the free time to properly educate myself in the field, and build one based on cosmic energy...I think I could do with some r&r on mars.

Regards...


No zero-infinity sorry for not being able to give you the magic material.
However there is Bismuth and the general 'magicness' of the atomic elements as seen in the following data about the Stability of the Nucleus in 'magic numbers'.

Bismuth is the 'magic material' in the projected alloys used by ufo craft densified in the Gaian Impedance Bubble by many accounts (we recall Linda Moulton-Howe rather a few years ago researching such things).

The Stability of the Nucleus in Unification Physics

Open any physics dictionary and look under MAGIC NUMBERS.
You will find the following sequence of numbers:
2,8,20,28,50,82,126,184,..
where the numbers relate to the number of protons or neutrons, making up the nucleus.

This also relates to Bismuth at atomic number #83 in the following analysis.

A general formula for the Magic Numbers of nucleonic arrangements in
shells is given by the SEps-algorithm {Sequence of Energy primary
sourcesink=Heterotic supermembrane EpsEss=HE(8x8)in M-space}.
This can be derived from the M-Space Unification Polynomial:

ax³ bx² cx d=0 and the Feynman-Path-Integral T(n) 2=0 sets the
mapping of SEps onto Super-SEps as the relative primeness of the
Experience-Factors in SEps superparitive to SEps* in extension.


Subtracting polynomial f(x) from polynomial f(x 1) for the Feynman
Identity n² n 2=0 for {T(n)=n(n 1)} gives:
3ax² (3a 2b)x (a b c)=0 and specifies a=1/3 and b=0 and c=5/3 as
the coefficients for the unification polynomial.

This directly gives the MAGIC NUMBER FORMULA:

T(MagicNumber N)=N[N² 5]/3 for N=0,1,2,3,...,N

Primary Series: 0,2,6,14,28,50,126,184,...
Secondary Series: 0,2,(2),6,(8),14,(20),28,(42),50,(78),82,(Stop
Command),126,...

The secondary series uses the Fibonacci mechanism of the fivefolded
supersymmetry to add successive terms to generate the NewState from
the Experience added to the OldState.
{This is how I discovered the Fibonacci Series on January 18th 1985;
during a great hailstorm, wrecking parts of Brisbane, Australia.
I thought I had discovered a NEW MATHEMATICAL SERIES, unaware at the time, that it had already been discovered by Leonardo de Pisa/Fibonacci in the Rennaissance).
"Oh the disappointments of those long bygone days when sooo young and beautiful lol!"


As 50 82=132 > 126; the Magic Number for N=7; this being 'Out-of-Order' sets a natural limit on the nuclear stability in the generation of the periodic table of the atomic elements as consequence of fundamental principles in the specification of Lead at #82 and Bismuth-209 the last stable isotope at #83.

The secondary series reflects the Fibonacci mechanism of always adding successive terms as the Experience-Factors in the 'Information-Gathering-Parameter'.

The 2-branes of Helium-4 or Alpha-Particles so become topological surface mappings from M-space into C-space of 4D with added Calabi-Yau-manifolds in 6D as the 'collapsed/conifolded' superstring dimensions of 3-Torus transformations into the 3-Sphere of Riemannian Hypersphere; rootreduced as Möbian-KleinBottle-Manifold in 2D.

This 'jargon' means that the quantum geometry of minimally connected surface topologies (there are only three ways for a plane to fold into a sphere with an opening to infinity, namely the Plane, the Catenoid (hourglass, two cones apex to apex) and the Helicoid), is then defined via the SEps-Identity:

XY=X Y=-1=i²=℮ the famous Euler Identity underpinning the creation of the omniverse from its seedling protoverse.

This geometrically becomes a 3D-crystallisation of PLATONIC SOLIDS in the fivefolded symmetry across omnispace (Tetrahedron, Cube, Octagon, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron).

There is an experimentally verified analogy, many have previously mentioned the sausage-shaped nature of atomic configurations.

Now science knows those as the IKEDA-SHAPES, relating to the exceptional stability of the Helium-Nucleus with N=2.

In 1954 Fred Hoyle thought about the energylevels of hydrogen fusion in the sun.
He predicted an excited state for Carbon at 7.6 MeV above groundstate and to the astonishment of the experimenters it was found.

This is the basis for the Ikeda Shapes.
Denote the basic building block for the nucleon stability as N=2,
that is He-4; adding those in chains, we get:
Be-8, C-12, O-16, Ne-20, Mg-24, Si-28.

So Beryllium becomes part of Oxygen, Neon, Magnesium and Silicon in
iterative nestings, separated by energylevels, all in MeV.

According to Ikeda-Data (Ref.: NewScientist, May1,1999,p.37):
Carbon level (7.16MeV); Oxygen (14,.44 & 7.16); Neon (19.17 & 11.89
& 4.73); Magnesium (28.48 & 21.21 & 14.05 & 13.93 & 9.31) and
Silicon (38.46 & 31.19 & 24.03 & 23.91 & 19.29 & 16.75 & 9.98).

Why does this work?
Because the Neutrons bind the alpha particles in the inner atom together, just like the electrons do in the outer atom.

So the alpha-particles join up in sausage/torus shapes to minimise their space and energies, described above in topology-jargonautics.

And this relates to the origins for this enfoldment in the quarkian quantum geometry, say as indicated in the Nobel Prize 1998 in physics.

The Alpha-Particles quarkian geometry links up the individual 12 quarks about their common magnetoaxis in a precise order.

Neutron-proton-neutron-proton=d.u.d-u.d.u-d.u.d-u.d.u->d.

So the large scale atomic stability becomes a direct derivative from the nucleon arrangements, which originates from the algorithmic encoding as given by the Magic Numbers and its mathematical/abstract foundation in the pentagonal symmetry of unification physics.



So if you research Bismuth-Lead (as the radioactive reductant for all radioactive elements); then you will find certain properties in the electron configurations, which relate to your quests.

Thank you for your interest.




apothecary wrote:
Arachne,
Some time ago I purchased the book by Daniel Pinchbeck: 2012 The return of quetzalcoatl. I began to read, and then put it down, not taking it seriously due to his use of DMT and other drugs to obtain his material. Is this book a distortion? Are you familiar with it?

regards


Indeed, the works of Pinchbeck are rather similar to the work of McKenna of the Timewave Zero notoriety.
The point with timewave zero is that it should be measured from the Philadelphia Experiment of 1943 and not the atomic destructions of Hiroshima and Nagasaki 1945.
It was then, that the spacetime structure was ripped in the application of mechanically generated intersecting magnetic forcefields.

This aligns the End of Timewave Zero to the following timeline;

1. Initiation of the Plan or Experiment in Identity:

May 31st, 1943 warped from May 31st, 30AD warping onto May 31st, 2010 = Wormhole Activated!



2. Building of the Plan or Experiment in Expansion ( 4 days):

June 4th, 1943 warped from June 4th, 30AD onto June 4th, 2010 = Wormhole Grows in 5D!



3. Alignment of the Plan in Order ( 40 days):

July 14th, 1943 warped from July 14th, 30AD onto July 14th, 2010 = Wormhole Balances in 5D!



4. Harmonizing of the Plan or Experiment in Symmetry ( 7 days):

July 21st, 1943 warped from July 21st, 30AD onto July 21st, 2010 = Wormhole Opens in 4D!



5. Delimiting the Control of the Plan or Experiment in Divergence ( 7 days):

July 28th, 1943 warped from July 28th, 30AD onto July 28th, 2010 = Wormhole expands as 4-5D Interface!



6. Reciprocation of the Plan or Experiment in Inversion ( 36 days):

September 2nd, 1943 warped from September 2nd, 30AD onto September 2nd, 2010 = Wormhole Stabilizes!



7. Holofractalisation or Quantization of the Plan or Experiment in Reflection ( 56 days):

October 28th, 1943 warped from October 28th, 30AD onto October 28th, 2010 = Wormhole forms Quantum Spacetime!



8. Holofractalisation or Quantisation of the Plan or Experiment in Absorption (AntiReflection) ( 1 day):

October 29th, 1943 warped from October 29th, 30AD onto October 29th, 2010=6th Trumpet of the Apocalypse


9. Constancy of the Plan or Experiment in Invariance (AntiInversion or Constancy) ( 56 days):

December 23rd, 1943 warped from December 23rd, 30AD onto December 23rd, 2010 = Wormhole Destabilizes!



10. Limiting the Plan or Experiment in Convergence (AntiDivergence) ( 36 days):

January 28th, 1944 warped from January 28th, 30AD onto January 28th, 2011 = Wormhole Contracts as 4-5 D Interface.



11. Deharmonizing of the Plan or Experiment in Distortion (AntiSymmetry) ( 7 days):

February 4th, 1944 warped from February 4th, 30AD onto February 4th, 2011 = Wormhole Closes in 4D!



12. Dispersion of the Plan or Experiment in Chaos or Entropy (AntiOrder) ( 7 days):

February 11th, 1944 warped from February 11th, 30AD onto February 11th, 2011 = Wormhole Unbalances in 5D!



13. Shrinking of the Plan or Experiment in Contraction (AntiExpansion) ( 40 days):

March 22nd, 1944 warped from March 23rd, 30AD onto March 23rd, 2011 = Wormhole Shrinks in 5D!



14. Ending of the Plan or Experiment in Negation (AntiIdentity) ( 4 days):

March 26th, 1944 warped from March 27th, 30AD onto March 27th, 2011 = Wormhole Deactivates from 5D!


Then the cosmology of Mckenna was also drug induced and therefore compromised in mental clarity, yet remained valid in the altered state of perception of the higher dimensional realisms.

The 'voices' and 'visitations' of Quetzacoatl are to be taken with more skepticism, as it is very rare indeed for a 'higher consciousness' energy form to penetrate the second timegate of the 7th dimension as you might understand it.

The first timegate is the common astral world where all the 'spiritual entities' reside, no matter what the 'ascended ones' try to convey to you. The true ascenders are all in embodiment OR beyond the 7th timegate dividing the quantumspace (say spacetimes 7-10) from the hyperspace (say spacetimes 4-7).

But not to diverge too much here; the Pinchbeck book is not 'nonsense' but should be looked at as any such data, including ours here - with rational discernment and a 'Thinking Heart' and a 'Feeling Mind' without the schism of the duality of the dissonances of the Cartesian Mind-Body dualism.

Be well dear apothecary; you are becoming familiar with the alchemy of the Perennial Philosophy of the ancient wisdom keepers and this is a partial reason why i blended Infinity-Zero's post here in the relevance of the nature of the elements.

Phoenix-Arachne




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25738 1 week ago - February 26th, 2011 Arachne,

Thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed answers to our questions. It seems to me that you are sharing here for reasons that perhaps many of us don't fully understand.
I like to give people the 'benefit of the doubt' unless it becomes clear that they have an unbalanced perspective, or a negative agenda to mislead.
So far your material is fascinating...albeit slightly more advanced than I am comfortable with.
Since you now are on your way to becoming an established poster, and since we are all (I think) pretty much 'on the level' with each other here on this forum, as far as the way we relate to each other, can you 'on the level' tell me what drew you to this forum, perhaps relate a bit of your life experience? (this incarnation) It would really go a long way right now in balancing the board, so to speak.

On another note, many things you have said so far, after careful study (and much googling of words!) have sparked curiosity in me. I look forward to more of your replys. Am I correct in roughly translating some of your past posts into the following?:

In Dec 21,2012 gaia humans will be moving up to 4th density...we will become aware of who we are, and we will now see the ET's that have been here all along, but in another density?
That Et's are responsible for seeding our planet over the aeons, that Et's are not a gaia lifeform, and therefore have a different merkabah, they will not move up, nor will any ancestral bloodlines of human/et hybrid.
That we are not to be concerned with an inbound planetary body, as it is irrelevant to the shift in consciousness.

Am I correct?
Are there things we need to do to prepare ourselves for the coming transition? I'm assuming that it the primary reason that you have graced us with your presence in this forum to begin with?


regards




  • apothecary









Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25752 1 week ago - February 26th, 2011 Arachne-Phoenix,

I carefully read your first post and had an immediate ping of recognition, or more properly, of remembrance, hearing you--or part of you--speak recently. You’re right: there are places where many questions go unanswered, whether they are honorable questions or not. I am only an observer in such places.

You must have known that most of us here would have little practical understanding of the principles of supersymmetry, Riemann geometry, and the physics of tensor fields which supersedes Einstein’s Relativity. I am one of those many, I can’t speak higher mathematics, it’s a gross limitation for me, but very true.

I am only an interested amateur--emphasis on amateur. As you say, most of the leading edge proofs aren’t even known yet in universities (unless one is a fly on the wall in the basement at Princeton with Dr. Witten---just a little levity, there).

I use my discernment whenever possible, and I wondered what agenda and Resources you intended to bring to this forum. I question all agendae, including my own, not so much in terms of “good” or “bad” as that is usually too general to be very useful. You’ve expounded a great deal more since your first post here, and you’ve referenced many a lofty name in physics. Interesting, thank you.

While objective, total data absorption is perhaps a physicist’s ideal, it isn’t generally practical; and I imagine you would agree that our using discernment (with respect obviously), and doing further study independently, is much preferable.

There are many questions to be asked, but I haven’t yet studied your material enough, so I’d like to ask only one question of you at this time. It may be overly simplistic.

What role are the monatomic platinum group metals playing/will play in Gaia’s transformation, or her life forms, if any? Their unusual properties, including high-temperature superconductivity and trans-density capabilities, intrigue me. Again, I am an interested amateur only.

Any facts or opinions you are willing to give on this would be appreciated, thanks.

Tangent




  • Tangent






Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25755 1 week ago - February 26th, 2011 Technically again, if you squash a geometric circle it will double the centre of the circle into a binary elliptical (star)system with two foci.
Henceforth all this misguided razzamatazz about Nibiru and Nemesis, brown and red dwarves visiting the terrestrial orbits and 'rogue' comets like eridanus.

The 'vibes' of many starchildren are indeed on the mark and the 'starhuman heart KNOWS, but the explanations etc from the 'experts' and the 'ptb' are all trapped in a limited database accessible to them.


Hi Archane,

I am trying to follow as much as I am able, due to the fact of not being mathematical inclined.
But the above bit I have quoted from you, concering the 'starhuman heart KNOWS' is correct for me.
As soon as I read those words, I thought, that sums up very well, on why I keep reading even though the terminology that Archane is using, I dont understand on the mental level, but on the Heart Level I do!

So I too thank you for what you have been posting, I will keep on reading and I know subconsciously I am understanding on a level what you are saying and as others have already stated, some of it does resonate with and within me.

Thank you for also answering the questions that others have posted, those questions and answers have also helped me in understanding.

I hope to be able to ask some of my own questions when I feel the time is right. At the moment, a couple of people have already asked one of the questions Ive had.

Namaste
Charmaine




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25787 6 days, 21 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 apothecary wrote:
Arachne,

Thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed answers to our questions. It seems to me that you are sharing here for reasons that perhaps many of us don't fully understand.
I like to give people the 'benefit of the doubt' unless it becomes clear that they have an unbalanced perspective, or a negative agenda to mislead.
So far your material is fascinating...albeit slightly more advanced than I am comfortable with.
Since you now are on your way to becoming an established poster, and since we are all (I think) pretty much 'on the level' with each other here on this forum, as far as the way we relate to each other, can you 'on the level' tell me what drew you to this forum, perhaps relate a bit of your life experience? (this incarnation) It would really go a long way right now in balancing the board, so to speak.

On another note, many things you have said so far, after careful study (and much googling of words!) have sparked curiosity in me. I look forward to more of your replys. Am I correct in roughly translating some of your past posts into the following?:

In Dec 21,2012 gaia humans will be moving up to 4th density...we will become aware of who we are, and we will now see the ET's that have been here all along, but in another density?
That Et's are responsible for seeding our planet over the aeons, that Et's are not a gaia lifeform, and therefore have a different merkabah, they will not move up, nor will any ancestral bloodlines of human/et hybrid.
That we are not to be concerned with an inbound planetary body, as it is irrelevant to the shift in consciousness.

Am I correct?
Are there things we need to do to prepare ourselves for the coming transition? I'm assuming that it the primary reason that you have graced us with your presence in this forum to begin with?


regards


Dear apothecary!

Thank you for your continued interest. We shall try to answer your questions as stated, but we ask for your understanding as not being able to 'get personal' away from generalities, which apply to ALL humanoid incarnations.
We can give you however the general reason for our presence, as long as it might continue.


It is irrelevant who we are in humanoid merkabah form, especially in the old model and bringing in individualities would cause confusions and comparisons and many quarrels.

Look at the world about you and you will see that a particular 'human group consciousness' has awakened and has risen from the 'human mental slumberstates' of self forgetfulness and disempowerments by 'ruling elites'.

This is WHY this nexus time asked us to share our data on this forum and another reason is, that this forum is infused with the feminine Divine energy, more so then most other open discussion boards on the web.

You might ponder the statement of a feminine awakening within all of you here, both yin and yang, but it is the female Bodyform which is at the centre of the great metamorphosis of the cosmos and not the male morphogenetic gestalt.


The simple way of perceiving this is to look at the following logistical statement of what you and all incarnations represent on the deepest level of the cosmogenesis.

1-2-4,... represents a geometric progression and a doubling, which is precisely the biological mechanism for cellular reproduction, called Mitosis.

Now replace the Unity or Oneness of this as a metaphysical symbol of the FatherMother=Father Mother=FatherMother MotherFather.

This is simply you being born from the conception of the metaphysical; 'spirit' into incarnated bodyform
and when the genetic libraries of your father's Y0X0 sexual chromosomes blended with those of your biological mother in X1X2.

So You apothecary are actually four beings in one.
You have a twinsister as a twinsoul and two twinbrothers of the 'missing' sexchromosomatic permutations.

So presuming you are a stardaughter, you must carry the X0 chromosome from your biological father and one, say X1 sexual chromosome from your biological moter.

Then your twinsoul sister will be defined in this classification as X0X2 and your two twinbrothers as Y0X1 and Y0X2.

Where are they?

When you were conceived, say as a girl, your twin soul complex became absorbed as the genetic library of your father in the placenta of your biological mother and this was thrown away or discarded after you emerged from the womb in the placenta.

Only recently have the medical scientist discovered, that the mentrual blood and the seminal fluids and the bioplasmas of the placenta are rich in totipotent stemcells and similar labelings.
Many indigenous people have known this for a long time though, in their birth rituals and such however.

So the present time allows your 'missing' soulparts to be rediscovered in a grander context.
And this is becasue the entire universe is of a feminine polarity; all bodies all particular material structures and manifestations are feminine in a divine bodyform.

So what is the maleness?
The maleness is the waveform of the so called mind and this is equally divine but cannot be restricted to particular bodyforms by the basic postulates of quantum mechanics and the technical descriptions of what we here are simplifying for you and anyone else interested of the deeper origins.

But the grand transformation of Gaia becomes a holographic shard or fractal for the reconfiguration of the Mother Cosmos.
You can also write: 1-2-4....=AdamEve=Adam Eve=AdamEve EveAdam or the Cosmic twinship reformed in a grander expression of the original selfhood where maleness and femaleness was together as a oneness, but could not sexually interact with itself as each other.

So AdamEve=FatherMother=CreatorCreation =HeShe in a similar denotation.

So what if you were born a boy? Then you would be impelled to search for your 'soulmate' or twinsoul which is the missing Sheness in your Heness.

This then can become more rigorously defined in the mathematical permutations of genetic generations and such things.

But the Heness in the She is like a SHADOW self and this becomes expressed in the duality of the Cartesian Mind-Body division.
This can now be 'healed' in the primary male Mind-Wave and the primary female Body-Particle DOUBLING or TWINNING itself in the shadow self becoming realised.

The Old apothecary so is a Mind Body of opposing polarisations and the New apothecary becomes a selfharmonised MindBody BodyMind.

This will do for now and we should address your other questions now.

....In Dec 21,2012 gaia humans will be moving up to 4th density...we will become aware of who we are, and we will now see the ET's that have been here all along, but in another density?
That Et's are responsible for seeding our planet over the aeons, that Et's are not a gaia lifeform, and therefore have a different merkabah, they will not move up, nor will any ancestral bloodlines of human/et hybrid.
That we are not to be concerned with an inbound planetary body, as it is irrelevant to the shift in consciousness.

Am I correct?
Are there things we need to do to prepare ourselves for the coming transition? I'm assuming that it the primary reason that you have graced us with your presence in this forum to begin with?


Yes the ETs have been here all along, but in a separated state like yourself in the search for your twinsoul complexes.
It was the wavemind of the ET which is behind the entire terrestrial evolution and which is what one mioght say Creative and watching in one part of the missing unification.
The other parts are ALL consciousness containers in this Gaian Bubble as described in the first posts.

So the ETs wish to hybridise with the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms in a wavemind induction into the particular morphogenetic fields (Sheldrake, Lovelock, Chambers) of the bodyforms.

This is why certain humans feel such immense affinity with dolphins and cetaceans and many other lifeforms.
Those affinities are ET affiliations, remembering their own families and origins from the wavemind definitions.

Most, if not all participators on this forum here are wanderers and ETs in a process of awakening and remembering their much greater beingness.

The humans are deeply compromised, because they have BOTH a wavemind male divinity (yes all femmes carry the wrong mind, as all males carry the wrong body, no matter what the external characteristics might indicate) AND a divine female merkabah.

The ETs are here to help hybridise the worlds of all existences in a win-win situation, but this cannot occur until a maximised polarisation of certain cosmic laws has manifested.
This is now occurring all over the globe and this is another reason why we are here to elucidate the occurrences.
Not in personal names andd conspiracies and innuendos and agendas, but in the deeper underpinning causes and purposes - and the solutions.

Well, this should have answered your major emphasis and we do not wish for these replies to be too long and so we end it here, but will further clarify new questions raised, if asked.

Thank you apothecary.

Phoenix-Arachne




  • Arachne







Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25788 6 days, 21 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Timothy Good - Secret Space Program, UFOs, ET & Coverup

Worldwide research, interviewing key witnesses and discussing the subject with astronauts, military and intelligence specialists, pilots, politicians and scientists, has established Timothy Good as a leading authority on UFOs and the alien presence. He became interested in the subject in 1955, when his passion for aviation and space led him to read a book by Major Donald Keyhoe describing UFO sightings by qualified observers such as military and civilian pilots. In 1961, after reading a book by Captain Edward Ruppelt, a U.S. Air Force intelligence officer, he began to conduct his own research. Timothy Good has lectured at universities, schools, and at many organizations. In January 1989, following the dissolution of the Soviet empire, he became the first UFO researcher from the west to be interviewed on Russian television. He was invited for discussions at the Pentagon in 1998, and at the headquarters of the French Air Force in 2002. He has also acted as consultant for several U.S. Congress investigations. Timothy Good is the author of the bestseller "Above Top Secret: The Worldwide UFO Cover-Up" and "Beyond Top Secret" and his latest is called "Need to Know: UFOs, the Military and Intelligence" among several others. He joins us from the UK to discuss UFOs, ET contact, abductions, the hybridization program, colonization, warfare and much more. Topics Discussed: Donald Keyhoe, flying saucers, Project Bluebook, ridicule, UFO, abductions, Antonio Villas Boas, unearthly disclosure, the hybridization program, colonization, extra terrestrial contact, warfare, crash in Aztec New Mexico, secret project, satellite government, amicizia (friendship), gradual disclosure and more.
MP3 interview




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25789 6 days, 21 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Hello Arachne,

I have a supposition for you. It concerns Max Planck and subatomic theory, string theory and Quantum mechanics - yes I have read some of the books - and I also received some information from other sources which to my knowledge have not been fully investigated/acknowledged or understood yet.

So maybe you are the people to do the investigation or to answer the question, or work on the mathematical equations that will come from what I put forward to you here:

When particles are perturbed to such a degree that they reach the speed of light - and you and I know this has been done - then we reach this Quantum mechanics, string theory, quarks, hadrons...

The current theories are that subatomic particles can be in two places at once.
This is not exactly true.

From what I have been told and it was very visual so easy for me to understand and to explain it to you in layman's terms rather than mathematics here is:

When you excite a particle in a limited space to such a high degree that it has reached the speed of light and has 'nowhere else to go' - It will jump through TIME.

THE ABOVE IS A FACT - PLEASE TAKE IT AS A FACT - I WAS LEFT IN NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS

The same particle will be looping in time until it finds a speed lower than the speed of light.

That is why the experiments show a scatter pattern hitting three separate areas of the background even though there are only two fonts.
Because each time the particle has looped back in time, it has found itself either in the single font moment or the double font moment.
The single font moment being further back in time than the double font moment was less frequent - hence less hits.
The double font moment - each time the particle returned, would then just as randomly pick one font or the other, creating a random but relatively even scatter over time.
It is NOT one particle in many places at once - it is the SAME particle that has taken a different path in that moment of time which is repeating because the particle cannot leave that EVENT moment until it comes back down below the speed of light.

I'm going to go for a guess that you have been following the LHC experiments with as much interest as I have. Here is one story for you and I hope you see why it reinforces my supposition:

www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron...e-here-in-weeks.html

And for entertainment for everybody, with yet another reinforcement that I am not the only one to believe this theory (if indeed it isn't the CORRECT theory), I loved this - it is just for fun though! :

crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/man-arrested-at...the-future-49305387/

Does this make any sense to you?

What this means in the real world, where we cannot possibly be perturbed to that degree, is that each moment we make a decision, our path splits into the reality that we have chosen and the possible reality we could have chosen.

Each time we make that decision, we create another reality, a divergent path from all the other options. There is a reference in Buddhism to how many choices we have at any one point in time. It is a very large number but I cannot remember, so I won't throw it at you.

The other paths still have a life of their own but not one we know because we are the one particle and we cannot cross the boundary of time - but they exist.

On the OTHER HAND, you could say we DO cross the boundary of time, in that we possibly DO relive the moment and it is called REINCARNATION. We relive our lives with the same options that come up and we make decisions which will deviate slightly each time from the previous life - we go through the single font in some reincarnations and we have a choice between the two fonts in other reincarnations and finally, in the latter, we choose one or other font in different incarnations.

As a little extra for you, again this came to me from a very clear and loving alternative source, we are indeed heading for a 'zero point' - called a FULCRUM - where all the divergent paths come back together in one - like many strands of light and it looks like one beautiful explosion of LIGHT. There is a lot of love there and I have been TOLD this is what is intended and it is intended very soon now.

It is NOT a black hole turning into a white hole. It is the END of the 'perturbation' and looping of our lives through the same EVENT to return to our normal state.

There is no RIP in time when the particle jumps, and time is not disturbed when we are repeating the same event because even though it looks like there are multiple options happening at the same time, they are all a single option in one moment of time which science has managed to record in the above experiments. So there is not a possible clash of the same particle meeting itself.

I realise there is a part missing here which is: How can we record it all at the same time then? But you have to realise this has now jumped into what might be called Quantum TIME. Which I can only explain as the same event happening at the same time all the time with multiple different results because that time is permenantly swirling around us here and now, past, present and future, the TUNNEL in which we stand.

In all of this, and what is about to happen, you could say that "Time is of the Essence".

There has never been a time before this to share this information. I hope it is what you are looking for.
You would not have proponed what you have, nor referred to your peers and colleagues as you have if you weren't actually looking for another option to the one you have at the moment.

I will stop here and I hope I receive from you as interesting a reply as I hope you find this one to be.

Love and light,
Zoe

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. " Martin Luther King.



  • siriusblue







Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25791 6 days, 20 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Arachne wrote:
Greetings again from the Elders of the Worlds!

The introductory message defines the agenda; it is as simple as that.

We are well aware about the works of Anna Hayes, which we consider quasi-science and sponsored by certain factions of the 'ruling and controlling' agencies upon this planet.

The keylontic 'quasi-sciences' are largely based on the 'channeled' information at the core of the 'Urantia Book' during and following the second world war and reflects the infantile astrophysical understanding from that period.

When for example galaxies were thought to be 'island nebulae' and the distance scales and large scale topology of the universe were still a great mystery (in the pre-Hubble universe of 1925).

The Ashayana Deane material so is perturbed in all its 'quasi-scientific' statements as to the structure of the worlds and universes and this is replicated in the keylontics.

From a metaphysical viewpoint; the unsound scientific basis of the Anna Hayes material can be ascertained in the somewhat presumptious attempt to change the symmetry of the millennia old Kabbalah as the Djed and the 'Tree of Life' from its three-tiered pathology of the 7 'clean sexes' of 'Noah's Ark' and the 2 'unclean sexes' {Genesis.7.2} to some more geometrically 'nice' construct based on the Geometric Doubling (Geometric Progression), instead of the 'correct and appropriate (for the cosmology emerging from the cosmogony) Fibonacci Algorithms, which are based on the methodology used by 'Mother Nature' to compress her data (say of reproduction from the genetic seeds) in a maximised compressed form and as seen in 'Nature's Shapes' and forms from a fivefolded class of supermembranes to Penrose tiling patterns and Shechtmanite quasicrystals to crystallines to viruses to galactic superclusters.

Another crucial point about the 'Urantian likeness of keylontics'; is the proposed singular 15th dimension of keylontics, as say the Christ-Apex of consciousness, which then patterns in descents (the sephirotic emanations of the true kabbalah) directly to the 'Paradise Sons', the 'Melchizedek Michael' and the structured worlds and subworlds - in a modus operandi reflective of the militaristic hierarchies of the Urantians.
[snip]

Arachne



Dear Arachne,

Thanks so much for the lengthy posts you have shared here. With a generous invitation for responses and questions. May we assume non academics and open-source-brainstorms are welcome. Surely expecting that we all must do our homework to earn or deserve our knowledge. This general subject matter is so deep. May we hope such discussion will continue here or somewhere, when the spirit so moves. Academic Math and Physics do not seem to integrate spiritual wisdom, within academia. Aside perhaps from talented academics who inject wisdom through their works, which happen to fit mathematical phrases or to structure functional mechanisms which serve human needs. I'm most intrigued by two references you mention. The Urantia Book and Keylonics (via Ashayana). Where integration of the parts of wisdom into a meaningful whole can be discussed on a public forum.

Before the internet, one of my favorite books to ponder was The Urantia Book. Too much to summarize quickly, but the "quasi science" as you call it, actually provided some quick start basis for meaningful integration of science, spirit and arts... For those of us not especially tuned into academic-math as the whole foundation of science, (academic math and academic science). Fast forward to Keylonics. I loved the focus on geometry there. Geometry is my favorite part of math and i studied it many years through architectural software (both polygonal and NURBS). For the visual among us, geometry provides quick translation between symbols, systems and measures.

From my personal basis, Keylonics efficiently jumps deep into the puzzle concerning "The Dimensions"-- However for me, there was a disconnect at 3D relevance. 3D is barely explored in Keylonics, despite some limited-resolution drawings, (lovely no doubts here). I essentially wondered: Why not share open source 3D design files for Keylonic-3D study? From inquiries, i received answers which seemed to imply 3D study was less relevant, (get over it), move on to higher realms of ascension, forthwith. That perhaps the so called dimensions are incidental human inventions useful to evolve us towards and through ascension. However, one must attend a seminar(?) I bought some publications and would love to share such study with others through email if not here on the forum. I find live communication much more stimulating to study such material. I'd especially love to pick up with some 3d geometry concerning the Str Gate -- Kathara --Ecka, etc..

I found some resonant thinkers within the Urantia community. Inspiring some visualizations for cosmic energy systems. Where the official 'Source' is bestowed and flowing from within oneself, to the best of their earned abilities: (Paraphrasing visualization follows). First Source emits sort of a primal energy, which successively 'densifies', from an 'ultimaton', as it is transmuted through galaxies, suns, specialized energy beings, planets, atoms.... Finally densifying into electronic matter, electrons, protons, atoms, molecules.... Figure in theories and observations, tachyons, neutrinos and EMR, etc... It felt comprehensible without magical equations. It provided analogies for an atom's perpetual motion: Wherein atomic motion is energized by ultamaton flows. Flowing where? Originally from First Source, thence continuing outwards. Continuing from the atomic stage, transmuted through EMR (electromagnetic radiation), thence recycling around the universe, from one system to another, as currents flow, ultimately back to source, through black holes? (Somewhat compares to negative and positive battery terminals).

So much can be drawn from these two sources, which relate to other discussions on Camelotforum, from eugenics to the seeding of humans, the ETs by other names, fallen angles along with a Gospel from Andrew (the apostle whose legacy was not written by immediate followers-- Ever after the example of Jesus who wrote in the sand, not in books which could become misused fetishes). However it takes two or more to drive a thought through time. I would go on to other aspects discussed here, but frankly expect that few will read even this with sustaining interest.

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Re: The Arachne thread

Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:02 pm


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25807 6 days, 19 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Dear tangent!

Your interest is appreciated and we have indeed commented on the monatomic elements.
So allow us to share this information for your data base. You asked for a longer exposition, so here is one in an appropriate context. A previous post on nucleon stability is reincluded in this context. So we apologize if this offends certain participants.

Monatomic Superconductivity in the Alchemy of the Stability of the Nucleus

1.Introduction
2. The Elementary Nucleon Stability in Unification Physics.
3. The Natural Superconductivity of Monatomic Elements
4. The Alchemy and the 'occult-suppressed' omniphysics in pre-2013 terrestrial standard models.
5. The Letter of 'Cheryl DeLuca' addressing Orbitally-Rearranged-Monatomic Elements.

1. Introduction

This message shall provide an introduction into avenues for an omniphysics of the 21st century, following a 'lifting of the veils' (post 2012) from extensive research material undertaken in clandestine fashion by a 'shadow science' for a contemporary 'standard science' which is only partially published, even by and for the 'scientific establishment' itself.
In this thread (and its links) will be found a number of formulations applicable in a most elementary sense to the fields of nanotechnology, cold fusion, room temperature superconductivity and the relationships between elementary electrocharges coupled to inertial mass and magnetocharges coupled to gravitational mass in basic quantum unification physics.

When scientists analyse substances chemically, they often attempt to break up the substances into smaller and smaller pieces to study the properties of the substance.


"Divide and subdivide a solid and the traits of its solidity fade away one by one, like the features of the Cheshire Cat, to be replaced by characteristics that are not those of liquids or gases. They belong instead to a new phase of matter, the micro-cluster. Micro-clusters consist of tiny aggregates comprising from two to several hundred atoms. They pose questions that lie at the heart of solid state physics and chemistry, and the related field of material science. How small must an aggregate of particles become before the character of the substance they once formed is lost? How might the atoms reconfigure if freed from the influence of the matter that surrounds them? If the substance is a metal, how small must this cluster of atoms be to avoid the characteristic sharing of free electrons that underlies conductivity?" -- Scientific American, December 1989; Michael A. Duncan, Dennis H. Rouvray, pp. 110-115


"Researchers at the Lawrence Berkeley laboratory have been finding that rapidly spinning nuclei with different masses have similar--if not exactly the same--moments of inertia. 'Something is going on,' said Frank F. Stephens, a physicist at the Lawrence Berkeley lab, 'and for reasons we don't understand yet.'" "A spinning nucleus results from an off-center collision between two nuclei that fuse to form a rapidly spinning, elongated body. "The deformed nucleus can take the shape of an American football, a doorknob, or possibly even a banana depending on the collision energy in the nuclei. In a typically deformed nucleus the long axis exceeds the two short axis by about a factor of 1.3. …It is in these superdeformed nuclei that curious goings on have taken place. …The surprise: the spectra of some different superdeformed nuclei were almost identical." -- Scientific American, October 1991; Philip Yam, p. 26




{{{Normal nuclei are roughly spherical in shape, held in place by the overwhelming strong nuclear force, but the nuclei of monatomic elements with only partially filled outer orbitals in the nucleous become deformed when the lack of dipole-dipole interactions with surrounding nuclei causes the protons and neutrons in the partially filled orbitals to be excluded introducing a wobble in the nucleous.

This deformity increases the particle distance thereby weakening the strong nuclear force (which falls off very rapidly) and allows the electromagnetic repulsion between the protons to begin to overshadow it. So the nuclei of these atoms are more unstable than normal nuclei. If the deformity exceeds a 2:1 ratio the nuclei is classified as superdeformed and can spontaneously fissionable (the naturally occurring, and therefore stable, monatomics probably do not have superdeformed nuclei).

Not much is known about the circumstances which contribute to this spontaneous transmutation. About all that can be said at this early date is that spontaneous transmutation has been observed to exist. . It is no longer a matter of whether transmutation does or does not exist but under what circumstances such transmutation occurs.

To understand the nature of monatomic elements, we must consider the nature of the metallic state in general. A bulk metal consists of a large number of metal atoms that share electrons. This communal sharing of electrons is what gives a bulk metal most of its chemical and electrical properties. However, when the metal atoms become separated from one another, and assume the form of a small micro-cluster or monatomic configuration, the ordinary chemical and electrical properties normally associated with that metal disappear.


There is evidence that certain isolated metal atoms may assume what is referred to as a high-spin state. In the late 80's, nuclear physicists at a number of renowned laboratories around the world discovered that 12 transition group metals can be stimulated to assume a unique nuclear configuration, designated as a high-spin nucleus. The 12 metals are listed below in accordance with their columns in the periodic table.


........8.................9...................10..............11.................12
-----------------Cobalt---------Nickel-------Copper-----------
-Ruthenium---Rhodium---------Palladium----Silver-------------
-Osmium-------Iridium------------Platinum-----Gold-------Mercury




Unlike ordinary atomic nuclei, which display spherical symmetry, the nuclei of these specially prepared metals possess an elongated nucleus, resembling the shape of a football or a banana. In the technical literature such nuclei are called deformed or superdeformed nuclei.
Excerpts from: www.crucible.org/monatomic_elements.htm}}}.

2. The Elementary Nucleon Stability in Unification Physics.

Unbeknown to so called 'mainstream orthodox mensuration science'; the fundamental physics of the inner atom is structurally related to the much better understood physics of the outer atom.
The latter is rigorously defined in electron configurations as the basis for all chemistry and its biological derivatives, say in biochemistry and radiation physics.
Various models for the nucleus 'compete' in the forms of 'drop-models' and 'shell-models' in the attempt to find a theoretical foundation for the experimentally observed nucleons, which are themselves substructured in quarks, mesons and leptonic energy levels.

The elementary physics of the outer atom is based on the interaction of electrons; in the valence sharing and the various types of bondings, which connect atoms to each other to form molecules and atomic conglomerations.

Using the AUFBAU principle for electronic configurations in
orbitals spdfg.. via quantisation 2(2n 1) for shells KLMNO...
The n-counter is n=0,1,2,3...for the sequence: 2,6,10,14,18..for a
shell filling of: 2,(6),8,(10),18,(14),32,(18),50,..

This links to the Magic Numer Formula of the fivefolded symmetry in:
0,2,6,14,28,50,82,126,184 and its mapping 0,2,(2),6,(8),14,(20),28,
(42),50,(78),82,(stop command),126 as derived below.

The filling of shells proceeds as:
1s,2s,2p,3s,3p,4s,3d,4p,5s,4d,5p,6s,4f,5d,6p,7s,5f,6d,7p.

This yields the 'Noble Gases' (of column 18), renown for their filled outer shells and subsequently able to display exceptional relative stability.

Helium=1s2
Neon=1s2.2s2p6=Helium.2s2p6
Argon=1s2.2s2p6.3s2p6=Neon.3s2p6
Krypton=1s2.2s2p6.3s2p6d10.4s2p6=Argon.3d10.4s2p6
Xenon=Krypton.4d10.5s2p6
Radon=Xenon.4f14.5d10.6s2p6
Ununquadium=#114=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2p6

#101=Mendelevium=Md=Radon.5f12.7s2-----------maps Cesium/Alkalis/H
#102=Nobelium=No=Radon.5f14.7s2--------------maps Barium/Alkalis
#103=Lawrencium=Lr=Radon.5f14.6d1.7s2--------maps Lanth./Yttrium
#104=Rutherfordium=Rf=Radon.5f14.6d2.7s2----maps #72 Hafnium
#105=Dubnium=Db=Radon.5f14.6d3.7s2----------maps #73 Tantalum
#106=Seaborgium=Sg=Radon.5f14.6d4.7s2-------maps #74 Tungsten
#107=Bohrium=Bh=Radon.5f14.6d5.7s2----------maps #75 Rhenium
#108=Hassium=Hs=Radon.5f14.6d6.7s2----------maps #76 Osmium
#109=Meitnerium=Mt=Radon.5f14.6d7.7s2-------maps #77 Iridium
#110=Darmstadtium=Ds==Radon.5f14.6d8.7s2-----maps #78 Platinum
#111=Roentgenium=Rg=Radon.5f14.6d9.7s2------------------maps #79 Gold
#112=Ununbium=Uub=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2-----------------maps #80 Mercury
#113=Ununtritium=Uut=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2p1--------------maps #81 Thallium
#114=Ununquadium=Uuq=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2p2--------------maps #82 as (Eka)Lead
#115=Ununpentium=Uup=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2p3--------------maps #83 Bismuth
#116=Ununhexium=Uuh=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2p4--------------maps #84 Polonium
#117=Ununseptium=Uus=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2p5--------------maps #85 Astatine
#118=Ununoctium=Uuo=Radon.5f14.6d10.7s2p6--------------maps #86 as (Eka)Radon

The generalised 'shape' for the universal topological deformation of a 'Hollow Sphere with an opening to infinity' and as a minmal surface (plane, catenoid and helicoid) can be utilized to model the shape of the 'holofractal' universe.
This manifests as KleinBottle toroidal derivative of the BlackHole event horizon becoming 'wormholed' in the higher-D KleinBottle connection.
A 'Turning Inside Out' of the spacial vortex geometry via the magnetic flux properties intrinsic to the unified field of quantumrelativity can so be indicated.

Chemically, this would engage the properties of Helium-4, not only as the most stable Magic Element at N=2, but also its superfluid properties, having the lowest melting- and boiling points of all the elements.

This inside-out deformation must engage unification physics with precise material parameters as given in the abstract definitions.
Then it should become possible, to directly relate Helium-4 to element #118, most likely in attaining superfluid status at room temperatures in the application and manipulation of intersecting magnetioc fields and the supersymmetric nature of Maxwell's equations under agency of the MagnetoCharge and the Magnetic Monopoles as mass-equivalences from the superbrane dimensions.



3. The Natural Superconductivity of Monatomic Elements

Open any physics dictionary and look under MAGIC NUMBERS.
You will find the following sequence of numbers:
2,8,20,28,50,82,126,184,..
where the numbers relate to the number of protons or neutrons, making up the nucleus.

This also relates to Bismuth at atomic number #83 in the following analysis.

A general formula for the Magic Numbers of nucleonic arrangements in shells is given by the SEps-algorithm {Sequence of Energy primary sourcesink=Heterotic supermembrane EpsEss=HE(8x8) in M-space}.
This can be derived from the M-Space Unification Polynomial:

ax3 bx2 cx d=0 and the Feynman-Path-Integral T(n) 2=0 sets the mapping of SEps onto Super-SEps as the relative primeness of the Experience-Factors in SEps superparitive to SEps* in extension.

Subtracting polynomial f(x) from polynomial f(x 1) for the Feynman Identity n2 n 2=0 for {T(n)=n(n 1)} gives:
3ax2 (3a 2b)x (a b c)=0 and specifies a=1/3 and b=0 and c=5/3 as the coefficients for the unification polynomial.

This directly gives the MAGIC NUMBER FORMULA:

TMagicNumbers=N(N2 5)/3 for N=0,1,2,3,...,N

Primary Series: 0,2,6,14,28,50,126,184,...
Secondary Series: 0,2,(2),6,(8),14,(20),28,(42),50,(78),82,(Stop Command),126,...

The secondary series uses the Fibonacci mechanism of the fivefolded supersymmetry to add successive terms to generate the NewState from the Experience added to the OldState.

{This is how I discovered the Fibonacci Series on January 18th 1985; during a great hailstorm, wrecking parts of Brisbane, Australia. I thought I had discovered a NEW MATHEMATICAL SERIES, unaware at the time, that it had already been discovered by Leonardo de Pisa/Fibonacci in the Rennaissance}.


As 50 82=132 > 126; the Magic Number for N=7; this Out-of-Order sets a natural limit on the nuclear stability in the generation of the periodic table of the atomic elements as consequence of fundamental principles in the specification of Lead at #82 and Bismuth-209 the last stable isotope at #83.

The secondary series or the Lucas-Numbers; reflects the Fibonacci/Francom mechanism of always adding successive terms as the Experience-Factors in the 'Information-Gathering-Parameter'.

The 2-branes of Helium-4 or Alpha-Particles so become topological surface mappings from M-space into C-space of 4D with added Calabi-Yau-manifolds in 6D as the 'collapsed/conifolded' superstring dimensions of 3-Torus transformations into the 3-Sphere of Riemann (Hypersphere); rootreduced as Moebian-KleinBottle-Manifold in 2D.

This 'jargon' means that the quantum geometry of minimally connected surface topologies (there are only three ways for a plane to fold into a sphere with an opening to infinity, namely the Plane, the Catenoid (hourglass, two cones apex to apex) and the Helicoid), is then defined via the SEps-Identity:
XY=X Y=-1=i2=exp and the 3D-crystallisation of PLATONIC SOLIDS in the fivefolded symmetry across omnispace (Tetrahedron, Cube, Octagon, Dodecahedron, Icosahedron).

Now science knows those as the IKEDA-SHAPES, relating to the exceptional stability of the Helium-Nucleus with N=2.

In 1954 Fred Hoyle thought about the energylevels of hydrogen fusion in the sun.
He predicted an excited state for Carbon at 7.6 MeV above groundstate and to the astonishment of the experimenters it was found.

This is the basis for the Ikeda Shapes.
Denote the basic building block for the nucleon stability as N=2,
that is He-4; adding those in chains, we get:
Be-8, C-12, O-16, Ne-20, Mg-24, Si-28.

So Beryllium becomes part of Oxygen, Neon, Magnesium and Silicon in iterative nestings, separated by energylevels, all in MeV.

According to Ikeda-Data (Ref.: NewScientist, May1,1999,p.37):
Carbon level (7.16MeV); Oxygen (14,.44 & 7.16); Neon (19.17 & 11.89 & 4.73); Magnesium (28.48 & 21.21 & 14.05 & 13.93 & 9.31) and Silicon (38.46 & 31.19 & 24.03 & 23.91 & 19.29 & 16.75 & 9.98).

Why does this work?
Because the Neutrons bind the alpha particles in the inner atom together, just like the electrons do in the outer atom.

So the alpha-particles join up in sausage/torus shapes to minimise their space and energies, described above in topological jargonautics.

The origins for this enfoldment is the quark geometry, say as indicated in the Nobel Prize 1998 posting (found on the linked website).

The Alpha-Particles quarkian geometry links up the individual 12 quarks about their common magnetoaxis in a precise order.

Neutron-proton-neutron-proton = d.u.d-u.d.u-d.u.d-u.d.u->d.

So the large scale atomic stability becomes a direct derivative from the nucleon arrangements, which originates from the algorithmic encoding as given by the Magic Numbers and its mathematical/abstract foundation in the pentagonal symmetry of unification physics.

This is illustrated in an Energy formulation based on a higher dimensional 'supercharge' becoming mapped into the lower dimensions and the Action Law of Action=Charge2, underpinning superconductivity in the natural current flow of magnetocharges as inertia equivalents and as indicated in the following.


4. The Alchemy and the 'occult-suppressed' omniphysics in pre-2013 terrestrial standard models.


The physics of the monatomic elements is related to a fundamental supersymmetry between fermionic halfspin (Fermi-Maxwell) statistics and bosonic integralspin (Einstein-Bose) statistics.
A number of Bose-Einstein Condensates or BECs have been reproduced in laboratories around the world, with pioneering work undertaken about a decade ago.
Wolfgang Ketterle at MIT; May 18th, 1996 described condensates, surviving for more than 20 seconds as and containing so 5 million sodium atoms for dimensions of 8 and 150 microns in breath and length.
Antonio Bianconi of La Sapienza University in Rome proposed 'Stripes' as superconducting wires separated by insulating materials and in the effort to increase the superconducting transition temperatures.
Vic Emery of Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York and Steven Kivelson of UCLA believe 'Stripes' hold the key to 'High-Temperature-Superconductivity' (HTSC) and thought the introduction of charge carriers, say transition metals, could produce positively charged 'holes' as ferromagnetic bands in between antiferromagnetic 'isolators'.
The 'Stripes' induce single holes to 'pair-up', trapping the single holes by the isolating boundaries.
According to quantum mechanics, confined 'particles' tap Vaccum-Energy (ZPE aka VPE) and which increases for like quantum spin, that is the Bosonification of leptonic fermions.
Opposite quantum spins decrease the energy levels for a 0-spin boson and the mechanism of Higgs-Template inertia induction allow the interaction of the supersymmetry in the equivalence principle of general relativity, coupled to the nature of the electropolic Coulomb charges and their magnetocharged string precursors from the M-Space.
Within 'Stripes' large charge oscillations can build up and a team from MIT has used radio waves to excite the nuclei of copper atoms to show clear evidence of 'nearby charges' as proposed by Bianconi, Emery and Kivelson {vol82,p4300,PhysicalReviewL}.

In the 1957 (Bardeen, Cooper and Schrieffer) BCS-Theory for 'ordinary' superconductivity; Cooper-Paired electrons behave like phonons as the exchange of vibrational quanta of energy between atomic lattices, attracting the passing electrons.
This is known as S-Wave-Symmetry for the Cooper-pairings.
The alignment of quantum spins of 'spin fluctuations' between passing electrons and spin-flip magnetised atoms is corollarily known as a D-Wave-Symmetry.
The latter symmetry exhibits a 'clover-leaf' shape in comparison with the 'circle' shape of the S-Wave.
Experiments by Donald Ginsberg (University of Illinois) revealed clear evidence of D-Wave symmetry in 1993 and many other researchers (Leggett, Pines, Van Harlingen) adopted this revised model for HTSC engaging 'exotic ceramics', such as Yttrium-Barium-Copper-Oxide (YBa2Cu3O7).
Combining the S-Wave and D-Wave symmetries results in a crystallisation for a Flow of 'Natural Current'; where it is frequency, that 'flows' as aparameter and not inertial particles like electrons or positive holes (positrons).
The equation for 'Normal Current' as I=dQ/dt=Change of Chargeflow/Time so reduces as differential equation from second order to first (for integral count N of Cooper-pairings):
{Vo(t)=L.dI/dt RI Q/C=L.d2Q/dt2 R.dQ/dt Q/C}->
Vo(f)=2eNL.df/dt 2eNRf 2eN/C}.
Mueller, Jahn and Teller proposed the Polaron of 'Electron Degeneracy' in the 1930's and defined as two electron eigenstates in the same identical minimum energy configuration.

The electron polarises the atomic pattern as its environment of dynamic interaction.
By distorting itself, the crystal lattice slightly alters the two quantum states of the polaron.
As long as the electron energy is lowered more than the lattice energy is raised, the polaron manifests spontaneously and becomes enabled to 'freely' move about as a Quasiparticle within the 'Stripes' of the superconducting material.

The Polaron of Jahn and Teller is identical to a 'Monatomically produced Photon' and couples in terms of a 'changing inertial mass' to a mass-equivalent current element, which can be labeled as a 'Magnetic Monopole' in selfduality.

This Magnetic Monopole, manifesting as quasiparticle in the omniphysics of the superconductivity, is itself defined from the Quantum Big Bang Cosmogenesis, which emerged the parameter of inertial mass from its gravitational progenitor.
{It is transformed from the Planck-String in T-duality to the Cosmic Ray spectra, encompassed in Edward Witten's IIA supersymmetry class coupling the 10D-superstrings to the 11D-supermembranes}.

The phenomenon of electron degeneracy at the elementary level so renders the phonons or 'spin-flippers' of the D-Wave symmetry capable of binding polarons together and as verified by the BECs.
Greater vibrational eigenenergy, tapped from the ZPE, then results in stronger Cooper bonding and LTSC manifests at higher temperatures.

The concept of the 'optical computer' further illustrates the nature of the magnetocharges as a 'missing link' between the parameters of mass and electromagnetic radiation and between the null-state of the vacuum and the gravitational potential.
Achim Wixforth from the University of Munich {vol78,p4099,PhysicalReviewL}, has 'caught' lightbeams in optoelectronics, converting the dynamics of electrons, which shunt between valence- and conduction bands in semiconductors via acoustic sound waves into optical memories of piezoelectric crystals.
Distorting the electric environment in application of an alternating voltage to a piezoelectric material such as Lithium Niobate, creates a pressure wave along the crystalline surface, which then utilises the generated electric field to capture and store electrons.
The electric field distorts the flat conduction and valence bands into sinusoidal waveforms, to 'peak' electrons and 'trough' positrons/holes in such a way, as to render this maximum separation in excess of the distance required for instant recombination.
Only when the electric field is 'turned off' can the 'trapped light' of the electron-positron energy be released in the linearisation of the electrical environment.
The electron-hole pairings, spawned say by infrared laserlight, so form an effective 'optical memory'.

But in elementary terms, the electron-hole energy is 'magnetocharged' in the form of quasiparticles, say a polaron or a phonon or a monatomic photon.
The fundamental formulations indicate, that mass as a parameter is NOT fundamental, but is a derivative from the string energy, causative of the Big Bang and the creation of the spacetime matrices themselves.

What is however elementary is the string energy given in the Modular Duality of the Source-Sink Coupling of the 11-dimensional Witten Mother-Membrane.
It is this Source-Sink manifesting as the Zero-Point-Vortex-Energy from the minimised Planck-String-Quasi-Singularity, which initially defines the extent of the universe as a Planck-Nugget aka the 'Primeval Atom' of Lemaitre.
Because this initial energy configuration was a quantum eigenstate; the subsequent cosmoevolution of the universe had itself to become quantised in all parameters and including the parameter of mass.
To expand, the universe, the size of a Planck-Nugget, so had to multiply quantitatively and as there was no primeval spacetime into which to expand into, the Planck-Nugget required dimensional extension from string to brane to volumar or from point to line to manifold to volume in a form of dimensional-holofractal nestings.

The origin of the universe became mathematically structured in a selfmapping of a 'point' or Null-Dimension as itself, hitherto allowing the concept of the Infinity-Dimension to become prerequisite for the mathematical realisation of a physical non-zero and finitised complex of interwoven dimensionalities.
Mathematically, this allowed a 'Point' to 'unknot' itself as a doublepoint and so define the primordial metric as a space of separation between two image points.

Selfrelativity between the images now allowed the introduction of curved linespace from the rotational freedom of the straight linespace and the 'Complex Plane' could become a 'Complex Riemann Sphere' and introducing the 'twisting' potential for the manifolds of the 2-dimensional surfaces.
In terms of the Planck-Nugget, two Planck-Nuggets could now adjoin and define a coupling between themselves, becoming the minimum stringenergy configuration as the ZPE=VPE.
Many details of the cosmogenesis indicated in the above can be found on the linked website.
But the manifestation of the ZPE as the minimum sourcesink energy of the Quantum Big Bang itself now and by necessity, crystallises all subsequent physical parameters, describing the physical universe, as emergent properties of this initialisation.

Space became defined in a de Broglien 'MatterWave', which 'inflated' the Planck-Nugget as a superdimensional Witten-Membrane to a size of the so called Hubble-Horizon at 16.9 billion lightyears and as a corresponding 'quantum count' {which can be defined algorithmically, based on an underpinning pentagonal supersymmetry}.

This Witten-Universe is 11-dimensional and so circumscribes a 10-dimensional superuniverse in mathematical rootreduction just as a manifold or 2-Sphere encompasses a as an 'Inner Space' (3-Ball) and an 'Outer Space' both in a dimension higher by one as its dividing boundary condition (your skin or the surface of the earth or the surface of the universe).

Well known formulations encompass the quantum formulations for the eigenstates of energy and momentum of this Witten-Universe.
The Laws of Stefan-Boltzmann, Planck and Einstein (in that order and linked to the initialising quantum geometry) gave a basis for the SI-units of temperature, time, displacement, mass, molarity, luminosity and charge to become subject to definition.

In particular E=kT=hf=mc2 crystallized energy proportionalities for the parameters of entropy, frequency and mass.
In terms of the Planck-Nugget, the primeval quantum definition became:

Energy E=hf=mc2 ;

E=hf iff m=0; with c=λf=λ*f*=RHubbleHo
E=mc2 iff f=fo=fmin with fo=1/f* under modular duality for f*=fmax.

This definition associates every mass m with a quantum count of minimum frequencies fo (as m=Nfo=f(monopole masses as monopolic current Imin=2efo), and so QUANTISES all inertia in terms of the modular dual of the sourcefrequency f*, causative eigenstate of the Quantum Big Bang.

The Eigenfrequency for Mass as a Sink-Frequency, modular dual to the Source-Frequency so becomes defined in the decomposition of the heterotic HE(8x8) supermembrane ESourceESink=E (manifesting).

Source-String: ESource= hf*
Sink-String: ESink = hfo

With Witten-Coupling Constants:
ESourceESink= h2 (as 'Squared' Energy parameter in Witten-Spacetime)
and ESource/ESink= f*2=1/fo2 (as dimensionless entropy count)

The definition for the stringed mass as a monopolic current so becomes:

As Planck-String-Oscillation (PSO) for the generalised Action-Law is defined in:
√(Alpha).LPlanck=e/c2PSO/2π with h/e2=constant (Quantum Hall Effect)
as the Planck-Stoney-Unification in the Witten spacetime with:

m=Nmmin=Nhfmin/c2 =NhImin/2ec2 = NhfminλPSO/2πe →e2c/e=[ec] (transformation)

for a GUT Dirac-Monopole Eigenstate described as Monopolic Current Element efiλi :

mmonopole=mm=hfm/c2=[ec]=2.7x1025 GeV (as c3)

The quasiparticles in superconductivity, characterised in the Quantum-Hall-Effect {h/e2=f(Free Space Impedance Zo=√(μoo))}; Josephson Junctions {frequencies as f(2e/h)} and the Conductance-Quantum {Go=2e2/h} so become lower dimensional and inertialised manifestations for higher dimensional gravitational natural current elements, identical to lower-D masses by the Equivalence Principle and the interdimensional mapping transformations between Coulombic Electropoles 'e' and Monopolic Magnetopoles 'e*'.

The encompassing identity for this mapping is:
Coulomb ChargeQuantum: 'e' = c2PSO/2π)=LPlanck.c2.√(Alpha) ↔
Membrane ChargeQuantum: 'e*' =c2(2Re)=NCL.c2,
and where NCL=Nucleon Confinement Limit as the 'Classical Electron Radius' as the quarkian magnetic asymptote, the 'size' of the weakons and the Higgs Boson and amost fundamentally as a function of the electromagnetic finestructure constant alpha and hence the physics of the subatomic Compton nucleus, the Bohr atom and the extended Rydberg atom.
As {mec2=ke2/Re}

for Re=hAlpha.Rcompton=Alpha2.Rbohr1=Alpha3/4πR∞}.



The crucial transition from the superstring scenario in 11 dimensions and the Planck-length
specifies the heterotic membrane class EsourceEsink in the 'Wormhole' or Weyl-Scale of the magnetocharge e*=1/E*=1/Esource and through its definition as Finestructure of Planck's Constant in: h=E*fo=fo/e*=1/e*f*=λ*/e*c=1/Unification Monopole Current.

Planck's Constant so relates directly to the Classical Electron Radius and Alpha and to the Mass-Eigenfrequency in the Identity (using the modular identity foλo=1/c):

h=fo=fo/2Rec2=λ*/[2Rec3,
showing that the inertial selfstate becomes 'absorbed' in the wormhole perimeter in a cancellation of displacement scale 'Final Sigma' ς=(λ*/2Re)=180/1010=hc3 in conjunction with the 'unified' monopole unification mass [ec]~4.8x10-11 kg manifesting as the monopolic unification 'Rydberg' energy:
E'=hc/L=hc3/Lc2=ς(λPSO/2πLe)=(RPSO/L)(ς/e)→1/e↔ e* for Unity-Identity E*e*=1.

'Final Sigma' ς, so represents the transformation or transduction potential between the transformed stringscale λ* from the Weylian boundary of quantised spacetime and the manifestation of the nuclear interaction scale (~ 3 Fermi).

The transition into biovital scales, especially those of DNA/RNA induction potentials occurs at the 'infrared atmospheric window' of 9 microns and a scale, which characterises the width of the BECs.
The infrared unification λinfrared=λ*(ς/hc)=λ*.c2 so occurs at that region of the electromagnetic spectrum, where atmospheric waterdroplets do not absorb the infrared wavelengths.

An optical unification is found at 6000 angstroems of Orange Light and the UltraViolet Unification at 179.9 nanometers becomes the piezoelectric window for Mercury and the crystalline transducer of (fused) Quartz (Silicon Dioxide).



5. The Letter from Cheryl DeLuca addressing Orbitally-Rearranged-Monatomic Elements.

Re: Update on the Pentagrammon Agenda
I'm curious as to your thoughts on Monoatomic Gold and it's alleged use to make the consumer a 'radio' receiver for these 5th dimensional beings, which many point to repilitian beings or draconian beings known as the Enki. Consumption of the Ormus or white gold powder (patented by David Hudson) is suppose to activate the higher strands of the DNA. There are experiments going on where fasts and intense esoteric preparation takes place for three years, at the end of which, the Initiate is suppose to illuminate, becoming a being of
light, with full bi-locality abilities. As of yet, the psychic abilities are minimial and no bi-location has occured. Also, there are warnings that the activations of the higher DNA strands are temporary, and the pain and disease relief attained by consumption actually backfires in the long run and the pain and disease worsens, while at the very same time the lower DNA strands are destroyed. They further this with a sinister plot by the Illuminati to prevent us from Ascending. What I'm trying to find are the studies that say this. Warnings and almost evangelistic waving off of the 'evil, satanic' white gold love to point to these studies and yet haven't produced a single one of them for us to scrutinize.

Shamans who took the white gold powder reported of these controlling entities that would want them to do good deeds, but threaten them if they didn't agree to do them. They reported that they felt that these beings were trapped inside their dimension and needed others to take the gold in order to 'dial in' to their frequency, that they were invisible, non-audial and rendered powerless in any other dimension but their own. It reminded me of what is written below and so I am curious as to what you feel about white gold powder?

Namaskar,
Cheryl

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My loves, you are mourning the loss of the shadow self, the part of you which is being integrated and merged with the totality of who you are. The lines of Duality are being erased before your very eyes, yet you I-dentify with something that is only a shadow, a reflection of who you are.

Identifying with the lower self is what keeping you from reaching the doorway to your infinite self. You fear loosing your identity, that unique individual that you are, called by a certain name that distinguishes you from all the rest, all of your history going down the drain into Oneness. Deep inside, you know that you are more than this name, this identity, this lifetime, which is given by a shadow world, limited by its perspective of duality and separation, yet you cling to it like a life raft.

The truth of who and what you really are eludes you and the doorway becomes invisible when you refuse to see from the perspective of your Highest Self. Every single being alive is part of your totality, only when you focus from your lower self, do you seem separated from each of your unique selves. It is from there, the lower self that you believe no one is listening, caring, and loving you. From the perspective of the lower self, we criticize ourselves, point fingers and play the blame game, the separation and duality sharply defined.

You decide on which level you will play and what role you wish to be, it is as simple as that, choosing to see from your highest perspective or falling back into the singular role of individuality. If you wish to see the greater vista, just like on earth you have to rise above the valley floor. And from the experience of that journey, you never forget the great view you had from above, taking it with you when you leave the higher ground, the memory of it continually reminding you of the bigger picture.

Stepping into the doorway of the new world is not asking you to forget who you are in this lifetime, but to remember who you are in totality. This is not a time of forgetting, but a time of remembrance. A time to integrate all of your many journeys, lifetimes and paths, sharing those memory’s with your whole SELF.
The mark you think you need to make on this world has been made, within each of you, as your individual selves. And those memories will not fade, but be made immortal by your Highest Self. The story of your individual self is being told now within this lifetime you are living. It is continually being scribed upon your heart with the ink of your soul, no object can hold these memories. Attaching yourself to the objects and things of this world will only hold you back and the way to freedom will elude you. It is within your heart, that your greatest voice is heard and shared. Your unique life and journey is recorded here and its deepest admirer is your true self, your Higher Self or Logos.

Rise up within yourself to that grand vista and SEE who is listening, caring and loving you unconditionally and choose to stay within that perspective. Within the heartbeat of your Infinite Self does your uniqueness truly shine, it is here that you will find unconditional love and acceptance. This is the new world.




The Truth wants to be known by you, it is It´s main goal, inviting you every moment of your life, so to be understood by you It is out of Necessity simple and to be noticed relating to Providence It is "in front of you".

Who or what is this truth? and how does something that was once nothing have a goal to be known by you, inviting you every moment of your life? This is the great mystery of creation. The void of nothingness became filled with life and creation was born. Just as the womb of a barren woman desires a child to fill her void, this longing to create and fill our own emptyness is echoed in the same lonlyness we feel in our hearts. We are mirrors of this desire for life and within the faces of our human family do we find the reflection of the Truth. And who else is in front of you but your other selves, disguised as your human family.


What divides us within this darkness is our only sin and it is the veil which separates the seen from the unseen. It is called ignorance. And what is ignorance really but the hidden nature of things, something which is not revealed.
In La'kesh I AM another yourself.



GOT: Gospel of Thomas Lambdin translation;

(5) Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."


Recognize that you are all One, a reflection of All that is AND each other. Acknowledge your human family as yourself and love and honor them as you would yourself. Within the image of each of your faces will the fathers image be made manifest and un-hidden in the Many. If you can look at your worst enemy and see the face of god, then you have understood.
In'lakech I am another yourself.

(27) "If you do not fast as regards the world, you will not find the kingdom. If you do not observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath, you will not see the father."


Loose attachment to things worldly, they do not define you.
Being able to see your reflection in everything and everyone is the true Sabbath.

In'lakech I am another yourself.

(29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."


We are the wonder of wonders in the flesh if we can SEE the father. WE are his vessels of mercy, our human bodies are meant to house his mind. Through our remembrance and reflection of our True self, we can and will wake the sleeper.

In'Lakech I am another yourself.

(42) Jesus said, "Become passers-by."


Drop the ego and the judgement of yourself and others, become the observer and your eyes will be opened. Make your ego subject to The Master. The constant chatter in your mind of what is good or bad, right or wrong IS the VEIL and the only way to remove it is through a careful balancing act.

In'lakech I am another yourself.




(25) Jesus said, "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye."

(17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."


Reach out to your human family and touch the hand of God, for this IS your true self, that has been revealed within each and every one of them.







From within my loveheart,
Arachne





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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25835 6 days, 17 hours ago - February 26th, 2011

Thank you Arachne for that interesting, enlightening and loving message.

That is very lovely of you.

I wish you the best of fortune in your project and hope you find you reach the same positive outcome many times over all over the world.

I really appreciated the Michelangelo you added too. An amazing artist, an amazing painting.

xx

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. " Martin Luther King.



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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25848 6 days, 16 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Dear Zoe from the Blues of Sirius!

Well you appear to have made up your perceptive mind of what science and its foundations are; so it also seems that whatever we share with you will most likely be insufficient and not evidental enough to add to your understanding of the paradigm.

And there are indeed some points we do agree with you and your sources of the information.

However allow me to intersperse in your reply for your perhaps peripheral considerations.

siriusblue wrote in italics:

Hello Arachne,

I have a supposition for you. It concerns Max Planck and subatomic theory, string theory and Quantum mechanics - yes I have read some of the books - and I also received some information from other sources which to my knowledge have not been fully investigated/acknowledged or understood yet.

So maybe you are the people to do the investigation or to answer the question, or work on the mathematical equations that will come from what I put forward to you here:


Well you seem to ask here for us to check your qualitative understanding of the science descriptive material you have gathered over time.


We can certainly do so, but will say that quantum science can indeed be qualitatively described in say metaphysical terms, which do not require (that much) mathematical formalism - but that this selfsame qualitative analysis might very well be on an encompassing scale, which in semantics, will only partially substantiate 'your sources'.

So, whilst you seem to feel, that you 'know some scientific secrets'; which you give allegiance to, because you honour your sources, embodied or disembodied - you may well find there to exist some challenges as to the specifics, more so then the generalities of your information so obtained.


When particles are perturbed to such a degree that they reach the speed of light - and you and I know this has been done - then we reach this Quantum mechanics, string theory, quarks, hadrons...

This is true and can be modeled on the 'electron in a box'. The more you restrict the box the faster the electron will 'bounce around' or vibrate in more appropriate string-mechanical terms.

In generality, this leads to the wavefunctions of the quantumized particles of the Standard Model based on the Unitary symmetries of the Quantum Chromodynamics or QCD.

The current theories are that subatomic particles can be in two places at once.
This is not exactly true.


Well here you are required to have a clear understanding what a wavefunction is; how quantum entanglement works, both qualitatively and quantitatively and what the so called Heisenberg Matrix represents in the Action parameters of say DisplacementxMomentum or EnergyxTime.
This then leads you into formal ways to describe wave-particle duality and Bohr complementarity, the so called Schrödinger Paradox (which is easily solved by the doubling of the modular string dualism) and the Dirac 'Sea of the Virtual particles' (which are not virtual but chromodynamically magnetocharged).


From what I have been told and it was very visual so easy for me to understand and to explain it to you in layman's terms rather than mathematics here is:

When you excite a particle in a limited space to such a high degree that it has reached the speed of light and has 'nowhere else to go' - It will jump through TIME.

THE ABOVE IS A FACT - PLEASE TAKE IT AS A FACT - I WAS LEFT IN NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS


Really, because it is a fact to you, we should accept your belief and likewise accept this as facts relative to our data base? We would never ask anyone to accept our data as such facts; we would ask to consider the data and to do research and to form your own conclusions about the presented facts then.

But like the gravitational field associated with spacetime embedded inertia agglomerations is a commonly experienced and so accepted 'fact'; so is your proposition.

So here is a 'proof' for this; you should be able to process with a basic nous of algebra and some idea of Newtonian cosmology.

The universe was born as a 10-dimensional hyperbolic topological entity of open curvature AFTER a 11-dimensional spheroidal topological 'envelope' was hyper accelerated to create the 'boundery' for the lower dimensional spacetime for to expand into and under the auspices of Classically Geometric Relativity and the well understood Planckian Black Body Thermodynamic entropic expansion mechanics for a inertia based cosmology.

This hyperacceleration is necessitated to always be tachyonic or superluminal as a de Broglien wavematter hyperacceleration, also know as Inflation; whenever the 'normally accelerated cosmology is lightspeed invariant as the acceleration limit for the consequential cosmic evolution.

So the lightspeed 'c' is the boundary and the divide between the 10D universe and the 11D universe.

The de Broglie hyperacceleration so represents a PHASESPEED always greater than 'c' of then Inflaton; whilst the say relativistic Einstein-Planck expansion of the following cosmology becomes a GROUPSPEED always less than 'c'.

Any wavespeed is defined as the product of wavelength λ and frequency f.

Therefore, and using the basic Einstein-Planck classical-quantum energy transform; Energy E=mc2=hf and the de Broglie wavelength λ=h/mvgroup:

vphasedebrogliexfdebroglie=(h/mvgroup)(mc2/h)=c2/vgroup> c for all vgroup
To give you numbers for the actual inflaton and Instanton: vphase=RHubblexfmax~4.8x1056 m/s or so 1.6x1048 'c'

and aphase= RHubblexfmax2~1.4x1087 m/s2

The same particle will be looping in time until it finds a speed lower than the speed of light.

Here and in the following statements below, you erroneously assume, that 'time' is independent of the scattering angles and so the displacements observed in the particle accelerator experiments.

Just like the Theorem of Pythagoras is sufficient to qualify and quantify the theory of special relativity in the metric physics underpinning all those accelarator experiments in the Energy-Momentum relation of the Einstein-Planck matter-light transforms in the 3 space dimensions; so is the spacetimed 4-vector form of the Pythagorean Theorem sufficient to show, that the MOVEMENT through TIME as a coordinate is a similar vector decomposition for the three space dimension coordinates.

So whenever ANY displacement in space occurs; the Time coordinate is reduced in the vector sum in the Pythagoreran form for an added space coordinate called the Lightpath X=cT.
A 'Position Vector' so assumes the metric form P={cT,x,y,z}
and with the Pythagorean theorem adding R2(t)=x2+y2+z2 as the position of something at say a time t to the Lightpath coordinate X=cT.

Your time coordinate in your descriptions below are 'little t' as a space measurement like in the scattering experiment and this ignores the 'proper Time T'; which is related in the addition of the squares of R2(t)+X2=(ct)2 or rewriting in dividing by 't' in proper differential terms: {dR/dt}2 + c2{dT/dt}2 = c2.

This is a powerful equation if you can see what it means.

It means that to not move at all THROUGH SPACE, being perfectly at rest relative to the spacetime matrix itself; the speed THROUGH TIME is maximised as 'c'.

In terms of your statements below, this implies that your TIMELOOPS in Space automatically utilise the transformation of the space coordinates into the lightpath coordinates.
And nevertheless your objections; this is precisely the 'spacelikeness' becoming 'timelikeness' and vice versa in the ripping and regluing of the spacetime metrics.

Then your ideas about the Nature of Time and those of your sources, (who perhaps are experiencing the NOW-Cycletime of the grander closed didmensional continuum and not the linear one of the scattering mechanics) require rigorous definition, as a vague sensual perceptive description will prove erroneous and as evidenced and experimentally confirmed daily in time-dilation and Lorentz-contraction phenomena in the laboratories.

That is why the experiments show a scatter pattern hitting three separate areas of the background even though there are only two fonts.
Because each time the particle has looped back in time, it has found itself either in the single font moment or the double font moment.
The single font moment being further back in time than the double font moment was less frequent - hence less hits.
The double font moment - each time the particle returned, would then just as randomly pick one font or the other, creating a random but relatively even scatter over time.
It is NOT one particle in many places at once - it is the SAME particle that has taken a different path in that moment of time which is repeating because the particle cannot leave that EVENT moment until it comes back down below the speed of light.


We can see where you getting these ideas. They are not 'wrong' as such, but highly insufficient to present a deeper argument, besides vague generalities using names like time and space and event.
To define what an event is, you need to be aware of simultaneity and the other postulates of Special Relativity.
Your 'One' particle idea is very sound, but you are using inappropriate language codes to place your concepts onto a solid foundation.
See you are trying to describe a Goldstone Gauge Unification of the elementary 'forces'.
This is indeed just a 'Oneness particle' and it is NOT the Higgs Boson (lol).
It is a wavefunction of the fundamental building block for the 'Heisenberg Light Matrix' emergent from the original Big Bang as the minimum wormhole configuration and defining what ALL physical phenomena consist of.

What you are seemingly attempting to say, is that there exists a Cycle-Now-Time; which forms the Boundary between the lightspeed invariance for all inertially coupled objects (all electromagnetic radiation is so coupled and generated by electric charges) group velocities and the tachyonic phase velocities.

And you are perfectly justified on theoretical and experimental grounds postulating this; because the NOW-Time is none other then the (inversed) Angular Velocity of the same wormhole parameters you seem to reject in your cosmology.

This angular wormhole speed is ω=2πfmax and so defined in the 'Love Frequency' for all of the creation.

Yes we are indeed rather familiar with the 'new ET-based' form of the 'Standard Model' of particle physics.

Our expertise is in fact the revision and extension of the latter in the reformulation of the Unitary Symmetries of the older Gell-Mann mechanistic billard ball-spring model for the quark-gluon couplings.

We are well aware of the LHC developments and have for long predicted the precise energy levels where the neutrino-gluon coupling will manifest as the strongweak nuclear Goldstone coupling and where the wormhole energy itself shall become manifest in the grand unification energy of the Weylian wormhole.

However you will not be able to find these things in the mainstream media or in the scientific libraries as yet.
Albeit here is some technical jargon and a schema of the wavequark proton:






I'm going to go for a guess that you have been following the LHC experiments with as much interest as I have. Here is one story for you and I hope you see why it reinforces my supposition:

www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron...e-here-in-weeks.html

And for entertainment for everybody, with yet another reinforcement that I am not the only one to believe this theory (if indeed it isn't the CORRECT theory), I loved this - it is just for fun though! :

crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/man-arrested-at...the-future-49305387/

Does this make any sense to you?

What this means in the real world, where we cannot possibly be perturbed to that degree, is that each moment we make a decision, our path splits into the reality that we have chosen and the possible reality we could have chosen.

Each time we make that decision, we create another reality, a divergent path from all the other options. There is a reference in Buddhism to how many choices we have at any one point in time. It is a very large number but I cannot remember, so I won't throw it at you.

The other paths still have a life of their own but not one we know because we are the one particle and we cannot cross the boundary of time - but they exist.

On the OTHER HAND, you could say we DO cross the boundary of time, in that we possibly DO relive the moment and it is called REINCARNATION. We relive our lives with the same options that come up and we make decisions which will deviate slightly each time from the previous life - we go through the single font in some reincarnations and we have a choice between the two fonts in other reincarnations and finally, in the latter, we choose one or other font in different incarnations.


Here again, you are invoking popular ideas of the mainstream scientific nous, which have no solid basis; such as the multiple timelines, parallel universes and the metaphysics of 'free will'.
Again, you are not 'wrong', but in error lol; in 'running with the ideas out there'; without deeper analysis for yourself.

This here could become a post pages long, because you raise very deep issues; so we shall await more specific questions, before delving into the details.
Your concept of 'what time is' is fundamentally flawed, because you mistake the relativity of time in the extended coordinate systems with your qualitative experiences of 'living in time'.

See Zoe, you are on the mark with your ideas, but keep meddling with the populist science, such as parallel timelines, without really knowing what the 'flow of the timearrow' represents in the entropic universe asymptotically expanding towards its higher dimensiona finite boundary and using an infinite mechanistic approach to do so.
Iow, the universe has trapped eternity within itself.

But it is easy to talk and write about eternity in qualitative terms and you are to be commended for trying to bring more technical definitions into the generalities; so rendering it more quantitative. Well done butterfly.

Regarding timelines there is an ENCOMPASSING Timeline from the creator-creation monadic dyad, which cannot be meddled with.
It is like the universe as a Seedling universe for the 'parallel universes' (hint); but this is not manifest yet - only the seedling exists as a protoverse.

But within this enveloping NOW-Time (another hint); EVERY incarnated consciousness carrier or 'Cosmic Self' indeed can shape and cocreate individual parallel timelines.
BUT there is something you cannot 'escape from'; you might term it the Word of Love or the World Logos.

We shall not delve into this here, as this is already getting too long and we dont wish to offend too many participators.



As a little extra for you, again this came to me from a very clear and loving alternative source, we are indeed heading for a 'zero point' - called a FULCRUM - where all the divergent paths come back together in one - like many strands of light and it looks like one beautiful explosion of LIGHT. There is a lot of love there and I have been TOLD this is what is intended and it is intended very soon now.

It is NOT a black hole turning into a white hole. It is the END of the 'perturbation' and looping of our lives through the same EVENT to return to our normal state.


Well you are free to attempt to circumvent the emcompassing cosmology in the creation of a greater one -good luck to you Zoe.


On the matter of TIME:
I have been told -repeatedly by a very real person and a very intelligent man in his lifetime that
Time functions as a tunnel around us with past, present and future swirling around and accessible at all times.
It was after he passed away that HE returned to me and told me we were going to come to a FULCRUM and this has been intended all along.

There is no RIP in time when the particle jumps, and time is not disturbed when we are repeating the same event because even though it looks like there are multiple options happening at the same time, they are all a single option in one moment of time which science has managed to record in the above experiments. So there is not a possible clash of the same particle meeting itself.


It seems you fail to understand what a 'Rip in spacetime' is in the essence of the cosmology; but never mind, lol.

I realise there is a part missing here which is: How can we record it all at the same time then? But you have to realise this has now jumped into what might be called Quantum TIME. Which I can only explain as the same event happening at the same time all the time with multiple different results because that time is permenantly swirling around us here and now, past, present and future, the TUNNEL in which we stand.

Aye, we love it when you are teaching us quantum theory.

In all of this, and what is about to happen, you could say that "Time is of the Essence".

There has never been a time before this to share this information. I hope it is what you are looking for.


What makes you think or gives you the idea that we are looking for something?
Perhaps you feel, we are somewhat 'lost academic nerds' who are in search of 'spiritual understanding and wisdoms'?

You would not have proponed what you have, nor referred to your peers and colleagues as you have if you weren't actually looking for another option to the one you have at the moment.

This is a rather presumptious statement butterfly. It seems you have a fear of something, lol!

I will stop here and I hope I receive from you as interesting a reply as I hope you find this one to be.Love and light,

Zoe


Love and dark passions to you Zoe

Phoenix-Arachne




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25858 6 days, 15 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Arachne = Abraxa + Mother

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25860 6 days, 15 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Doesn't this look a lot like the Thuban threads by Abraxas in PA1??

Hmm...full circling

Right b4 it disintegrated.....




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25878 6 days, 14 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Thuban? as in Alpha Draconis? Didymos de Whynot?

I admit I have wasted a certain amount of time reading these long posts, and was in disagreement from post one. I will state my opinion and be done with it. You can study science the rest of your life and never understand the babble being posted here. Can you guess why? It is utter bollocks. It is designed with small bits of facts to catch your eye, and then laced with utter crap to keep you guessing. It is meant as a distraction to keep people from looking at truth. Our world is filled with nonsense, and until you take the time to start with the basics and research and research and research, and guess what, research some more you ain't goin nowhere. Research not just what interests you but everything. In so doing, you are becoming knowledgeable, in becoming that you can see and know what is truth and what is fiction. Kerry and many others are constantly researching and going over their own data to check again and again what fits and what doesn't, cause generally when one thing fits into another it tends to be factual. You can clearly see common threads weaving together that make a picture. This data is nowhere out there, it is only from this one source. Compare everything you see with everything else. Learning and discerning are your responsibility and to think for one second that an angel is going to come down and hand you everything on a platter is outright irresponsible. We live in a system based on lies, mind programming. We are food and entertainment to beings of a higher order in the evolutionary order. We have a chance to break free now, what makes you think it is going to be easy? Ever hear the saying if it looks too good to be true it generally is?




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25880 6 days, 14 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Fohat wrote:
Thuban? as in Alpha Draconis? Didymos de Whynot?

I admit I have wasted a certain amount of time reading these long posts, and was in disagreement from post one. I will state my opinion and be done with it. You can study science the rest of your life and never understand the babble being posted here. Can you guess why? It is utter bollocks. It is designed with small bits of facts to catch your eye, and then laced with utter crap to keep you guessing. It is meant as a distraction to keep people from looking at truth. Our world is filled with nonsense, and until you take the time to start with the basics and research and research and research, and guess what, research some more you ain't goin nowhere. Research not just what interests you but everything. In so doing, you are becoming knowledgeable, in becoming that you can see and know what is truth and what is fiction. Kerry and many others are constantly researching and going over their own data to check again and again what fits and what doesn't, cause generally when one thing fits into another it tends to be factual. You can clearly see common threads weaving together that make a picture. This data is nowhere out there, it is only from this one source. Compare everything you see with everything else. Learning and discerning are your responsibility and to think for one second that an angel is going to come down and hand you everything on a platter is outright irresponsible. We live in a system based on lies, mind programming. We are food and entertainment to beings of a higher order in the evolutionary order. We have a chance to break free now, what makes you think it is going to be easy? Ever hear the saying if it looks too good to be true it generally is?


Be that as it may,,,
the member still has all the right to post and keep posting as do all the other members reading it to make their own assements and post questions n comments as long as they are with out foul words.


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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25888 6 days, 13 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Hello batkinson!

Thank you for your message and allow us to intersperse.

bat wrote:

Dear Arachne,

Thanks so much for the lengthy posts you have shared here. With a generous invitation for responses and questions. May we assume non academics and open-source-brainstorms are welcome. Surely expecting that we all must do our homework to earn or deserve our knowledge. This general subject matter is so deep. May we hope such discussion will continue here or somewhere, when the spirit so moves. Academic Math and Physics do not seem to integrate spiritual wisdom, within academia. Aside perhaps from talented academics who inject wisdom through their works, which happen to fit mathematical phrases or to structure functional mechanisms which serve human needs. I'm most intrigued by two references you mention. The Urantia Book and Keylonics (via Ashayana). Where integration of the parts of wisdom into a meaningful whole can be discussed on a public forum.


This is another reason for this discourse bat; the apparent schism between rational investigations concerning the natural phenomena of whatever order and the so termed 'spiritual reality'.

You might consider, that the natural world aka the physical universe with its constituents of matter, electromagnetic radiation (light) and the general labels of 'consciousness' mind and ephemereal subjects like spirits and fantasies, ghosts, angels and demons - could not have originated ex nihilo, unless this 'nothingness' or void itself emerged in some manner from something which actually was able to combine the famous Shakespearean quotation of " To Be or not to Be - this is the question".

This is a very deep logistics; because it contains within its context the potential of the undivided monadic oneness or unity, yet in principle divisible into say two opposite like yin and yang, light an darkness, good and evil, hot and cold etceteras.

So the deeper logic is this.
The Nothingness and the Everythingness can only exist if the Unity of the Oneness does NOT exist.
This means that what you understand as Infinity cannot be a Unity for the lack of enumerability or countability.

Infinity can only exist as an unbounded system, if its inverse is bounded in some finitum termed the null state or the mathematical Zero as a logistical symbol for the Nothingness.

Iow the Number One cannot exist to split into Nothingness and Eternity but the reverse logical statement is a potential possibility.

So the counting mechanics of the ONENESS is required to emerge or to be born from the Infinitum and the Nothingness as some form of necessity to allow the simple process of counting to become possible.

Ok, this will do for now, but we have mentioned this, because it can indicate to you just what the logical requirements are for a mathematical cosmos to come into existence, seemingly from nowhere when space and time did not exist a priori.

Of course some, but a minority of natural philosophers (including scientists and reseachers of divers fields); postulate an infinite universe NOT having any beginnings in space and time and if you follow such a cosmology; you might find our reasoning illogical.

Were the universe infinite; then space and time are required to have no beginning and then the very existence of the universe assumes a flavour of supernaturality, which is unsupported by the physically describable evidence of the cosmic sentiences, say human philosophers.

Now presuming you adhere to the logic of this evidence, which postulates a beginning for the physical cosmos in space and in time; then you will find the logic of a metaphysical origin for the physical reality convincing enough to invest your philosophical thinking towards the same.

This then brings the academic knowledge into a feasible harmony with the say instinctual nous of the Intuitive mind.
And this is what these messages are trying to convey and so your statements about qualifications and such labels of 'elitisms' are inappropriate.
The purpose and reason is affiliation and synthesis of the Logical Understanding with the Intuitive Wisdom of the Sophia - the Nous of the Body, the experience of the world in just being alive in some experiential bodyform or such labelings.

So the older you are in remembrance in incarnation (not biological age, though this renders wisdom more natural); the more 'qualified' you are to be called an Elder or a Wisdom Keeper or a Grandparent of Creation.
This does not require academic credentials or familiarity with the semantics. The latter serves for the 'self convincing' of the logically inclined skepticism in the egocentric individuation to BLEND the Inner Knowing witrh the Outer Knowing or some similar expressionisms.


Before the internet, one of my favorite books to ponder was The Urantia Book. Too much to summarize quickly, but the "quasi science" as you call it, actually provided some quick start basis for meaningful integration of science, spirit and arts... For those of us not especially tuned into academic-math as the whole foundation of science, (academic math and academic science). Fast forward to Keylonics. I loved the focus on geometry there. Geometry is my favorite part of math and i studied it many years through architectural software (both polygonal and NURBS). For the visual among us, geometry provides quick translation between symbols, systems and measures.

From my personal basis, Keylonics efficiently jumps deep into the puzzle concerning "The Dimensions"-- However for me, there was a disconnect at 3D relevance. 3D is barely explored in Keylonics, despite some limited-resolution drawings, (lovely no doubts here). I essentially wondered: Why not share open source 3D design files for Keylonic-3D study? From inquiries, i received answers which seemed to imply 3D study was less relevant, (get over it), move on to higher realms of ascension, forthwith. That perhaps the so called dimensions are incidental human inventions useful to evolve us towards and through ascension. However, one must attend a seminar(?) I bought some publications and would love to share such study with others through email if not here on the forum. I find live communication much more stimulating to study such material. I'd especially love to pick up with some 3d geometry concerning the Str Gate -- Kathara --Ecka, etc..


Yes, you have made your argument very well batman. We fullheartedly agree with your 'love of geometry', as the quantum geometry underoins the aforementioned selfemergence of the universe as a unity from itself as a nonunity of the Zero-Infinity duality.

But we stand by our critique of the Urantia Book and the Keylontics.
Anna Hayes is a wonderful femme fatale and a stardaughter as all around here and elsewhere are.
What we critisize is her influence on the truth seekers through her publications and material; which she claims to represent a 'higher science'.
So as natural philosophers; we cannot accept her scientifically worded propositions; as they diverge from the unification science so amny others publish and propagate.

So we might mention some of the many 'alternative' publishers we support to a much greater degree than the keylontic material.

The Seth material is first class in the omniscientific focus (it actually introduces the string-membrane omniphysics as the physical basis of the creation), but useless (to us) as a description of the World Logos (or Word of God), the intelligence of the cosmos, and of a energy your own sentience represents a holofractal shard of so to say.

The Ra material is also of such a high calibre and more actually portrays the World Logos.

There are many 'good data channelers' and 'data intuitives' in the alternative information stream; we might particularly mention Dolores Cannon and the Kryon channel, both of whom carry sound scientific content. We also support much of the work of Drunvalo Melchizedek, Dan Winter (a little scattered) and the words of Neale Donald Walsh who has 'nailed' the 'Nature of God and the Devil'.
From a research perspective we find more confusion, than infusion and restrict our recommendation to Richard Hoagland, Nassim Haramein and a few others.

Our reservations regarding the 'alternative sources' is their tendency to 'lose harmonisation' with the greater agenda of the 'World Logos' due to their public exposure and the 'pressures' experienced due to this, all mentally, emotionally and physically.

As the old prophets have known and as the 'good words' often stae; the real transformative work is best done in solitude and relative isolationm to minimise the distractions of the commotions of the external worlds.
Many other channels are 'very sound' in the 'messages from the heart', but lose traction rapidly when they attempt to convey science based data away from the common generalities.


I found some resonant thinkers within the Urantia community. Inspiring some visualizations for cosmic energy systems. Where the official 'Source' is bestowed and flowing from within oneself, to the best of their earned abilities: (Paraphrasing visualization follows). First Source emits sort of a primal energy, which successively 'densifies', from an 'ultimaton', as it is transmuted through galaxies, suns, specialized energy beings, planets, atoms.... Finally densifying into electronic matter, electrons, protons, atoms, molecules.... Figure in theories and observations, tachyons, neutrinos and EMR, etc... It felt comprehensible without magical equations. It provided analogies for an atom's perpetual motion: Wherein atomic motion is energized by ultamaton flows. Flowing where? Originally from First Source, thence continuing outwards. Continuing from the atomic stage, transmuted through EMR (electromagnetic radiation), thence recycling around the universe, from one system to another, as currents flow, ultimately back to source, through black holes? (Somewhat compares to negative and positive battery terminals).

So much can be drawn from these two sources, which relate to other discussions on Camelotforum, from eugenics to the seeding of humans, the ETs by other names, fallen angles along with a Gospel from Andrew (the apostle whose legacy was not written by immediate followers-- Ever after the example of Jesus who wrote in the sand, not in books which could become misused fetishes). However it takes two or more to drive a thought through time. I would go on to other aspects discussed here, but frankly expect that few will read even this with sustaining interest.


Again a well presented argument for the inclusivenness of all things batman.
You have interacted with likeminded information gatherers and data processors in honour and integrity and therefore you have attracted what you are searching for.

Indeed, the kaleidoscope of the weaving of the tapestry of life is immense and there are many avenues for discovery and discernment.
And of course you will find many 'readers' of the Urantia Book and adherents to the Keylontics; who can share their wisdoms and understandings as you can share yours.

This however indicates, that the sources stated became triggers for the individual cosmologies; which then is often integrated as being the 'source of the gnosis'.
Do you see what we mean?
We mean that YOU are the filter and the wisdom keeper and you can become triggered by many sources, all of which will carry partial 'truths' for you, even when they are contraindicative in their basic propositions and foundations.
This then is our criticism of the Urantia Book and the keylontics; not their partial truths, but their foundational basis.
Both are in duality in a love-fear cnfrontation at the core with the very simple logistical statements:
LOVE LOVE = FEAR FEAR misunderstood in the contraindication of LOVE FEAR = FEAR LOVE.

But now we are culpable of wordplay. Be well bat and thank you for your discourse.

Phoenix-Arachne




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#25962 6 days, 6 hours ago - February 26th, 2011 Doesn't this look a lot like the Thuban threads by Abraxas in PA1??


That's because it is. Check it out:

thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&i...EA-B9CD-2263D2C2690A

thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=t&fid=...15-9DD2-A6B77D06FE35

thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=t&fid=...F7-8290-F4DC064A8983

I admit I have wasted a certain amount of time reading these long posts, and was in disagreement from post one. I will state my opinion and be done with it. You can study science the rest of your life and never understand the babble being posted here. Can you guess why? It is utter bollocks.


You're absolutely right Fohat

Steve

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Re: The Arachne thread

Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:12 pm


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26097 5 days, 19 hours ago - February 27th, 2011 siriusblue wrote:
Thank you Arachne for that interesting, enlightening and loving message.

That is very lovely of you.

I wish you the best of fortune in your project and hope you find you reach the same positive outcome many times over all over the world.

I really appreciated the Michelangelo you added too. An amazing artist, an amazing painting.

xx


Thank you Dear Zoe, Dragon Chaser and Snake Charmer of the realms, may you find some solace in this poem from the loveheart as well.

Arachne





The Poem of Malachi

It is not I, who claims to know and understand the secrets of the universe
but the One, that sent me to proclaim the true God in divers many a verse.


I am but a corrupted mirror for the One who rules and who does know
without him as her I could not say a thing, but melt away like snow.


But a dirty mirror yet can reflect the lights and shades of the truth so divine
to honour in glory and in remembrance, the One preparing the way sublime.


Should I be just another deluded fool, walking the earth in itself divided
there have indeed been many such men often in word and deed onesided;
then it doesn't matter how the story unfolds and how the tale might end
and the prose will be as nothing, the words of a false prophet self-sent.


But if the One who sent me is true and in wisdom of the heavenly gold
then a new world can be born from the remnants of the whithering old.


Then the prophet will be known to have been true to God's own lot
never mind the real fools, who belittle, ridicule and say that it cannot.


The wisdom of God is more potent, then the knowledge of vanity Man
God rejoices in your heart's message: "Yes, indeed, I can understand!"


Know that all of you are Israelites and the Blood of Jacob's well
the gentiles of Paul are your kindred folks, sounding an alien bell.
Ezekiel's siege of Israel has now begun in earnest on 9-7-9 D.O.B.
with Jeremiah, all of the old prophets returned to finish their Job.


The holy land, your promised land is renown as the mother planet earth
Your bodies are the temple of God, Jerusalem both new and old in dearth.


Malachi - The Last Prophet






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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26118 5 days, 18 hours ago - February 27th, 2011 Steve wrote:
Doesn't this look a lot like the Thuban threads by Abraxas in PA1??


That's because it is. Check it out:

thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&i...EA-B9CD-2263D2C2690A

thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=t&fid=...15-9DD2-A6B77D06FE35

thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=t&fid=...F7-8290-F4DC064A8983

I admit I have wasted a certain amount of time reading these long posts, and was in disagreement from post one. I will state my opinion and be done with it. You can study science the rest of your life and never understand the babble being posted here. Can you guess why? It is utter bollocks.


You're absolutely right Fohat

Steve


Thanks for the links, Steve. I missed all that earlier . . . um, stuff. My spidey sense is usually not wrong (pun intended), and it has been all a-tingle. Good to have solid ground to go with it, thank you.




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26201 5 days, 9 hours ago - February 27th, 2011

ISAAC NEWTON'S ALCHEMY AND EZEKIEL'S TIMELINE TO 2013

Newton's Dream Realised and the Completion of Scriptural Prophetic Archetypology to enable Universal Reconfiguration



Prelude

"The most significant event in human history with respect to extraterrestrial intelligence within the greater universe, was the application of nuclear technology and science in the detonation of the two atomic bombs 'Little Boy' and 'Fat Man' over Hiroshima on August 6th, 1945 and Nagasaki on August 9th, 1945 respectively.


The 'observing' extraterrestrial intelligence then understood, that the 'human seeds' had indeed found 'new toys' in their 'playground' on the 'aliens' exiled 'mother planet' to use in their mental ignorance regarding their stewardship of the 'planet of the humanoid seed'.


But the 'watchers' and the 'gardeners' also knew, that this 'new wartoy' of the nuclear energy misapplied, had initiated the 'timeline' they had known would one day allow the humanoid mentality to progress from the 'supernaturality meme complex' to its antistate of the 'naturalis inferus'.


Soon the scientific paradigm would transmute into a globally applicable 'new religion', which would render the old memes of the 'supernatural' as superfluous archetype.


In its place would be the meme of a new mental archetype, which had, (in that subgroup of the humanoids, which began to understand the implications of the new technological inventions) transmuted the 'supernaturality virus' into a viral neuronal infection known as CIS-HSI or 'Complex Inferioris Syndrome Homo Sapiensis Insanus' by the extraterrestrial observers.


This meme infection of the cis-hsi would so begin to 'war against' the old meme infection of the supernaturality virus, also known as the CSS-HSI or 'Complex Superioris Syndrome Homo Sapiensis Insanus'.


The old meme infection had resulted in a worldview of considering the external environment as superior and controlling relative to the humanoid realms of understanding; and the new meme infection induced the opposite, the idea of the humanoid worlds beginning to control and dominate the exterior environments.


However this human mentality also induced a 'false humility', namely the idea, that to consciously and in full awareness of the 'self' as human individuation to continue the 'controlling of the terrestrial environment'; ANY notion of a 'greater encompassing' intelligence had to become 'supernaturalised' and so exiled into the realm of the meme infection of the 'others', the other humanoids, suffering the css-hsi insanity infection.


Relegating the human existence to a relative insignificance as compared to the extraterrestrial universe would instil the idea of a 'false humility' before the 'grandeur of the encompassing cosmos' in the new 'highpriests' of the new global religion of organised and politico-economical associated academia establishment.


Then the 'intelligentsia' would begin to dominate and seek to control all information shared with the 'uninitiated' lower classes and including the 'other' meme infected humanoids, suffering, like themselves, from an eonold virus, causing CSI-NMO or Complexus Syndroma Insanus -Nil Memoria Originalis.


The mental disease, the extraterrestrials knew was confined to the quarantined humanoid planet and as the Meme-Virus, which prevented the infected carrier to remember their origins, causing a comatose forgetfulness.


Both humanoid meme- infections parasited the homo sapiens insanus genus however and prevented this typology to metamorphose into 'Wise Man' in the genotype of Homo Sapiens Sapiens and as originally targeted by the gardeners at the time of the planting.


But the harvest would now become possible in the teleological projection of the TimeWave Zero.

67.29 years from the midpoint of the 'Day of no Return' - when the cis-hsi meme was born in the humanoid war-experiment; the harvest for the gardners would begin.


August/7-8, 1945 67 years 106 days = November/21-22, 2012 as the 'Day of Ophis', the Day of Dinah, the 13th starsign, the Day of the 'Serpent-Tamer' and of the 'Water-Bearer', preparing the 'Last Supper' and the 'Seder' for the 'Wedding Feast' of the gardeners, ready to return to 'Solomon's Garden' to join the 'Dark Madonnas' upon their 'Light-Red Mares' to their 'White Lucifers' upon their 'Black-Pale Horses'."


Ode of Solomon's Running Water to Maria's Wings of Eagles

{SongOfSolomon.1.5-7;Matthew.24.28;Luke.22.10;Revelation.12.14,19.17-18}


It is of limited value to parade the scientific discipline as the rational and impartial paradigm for the future; if that same worldview proves itself incapable to elucidate or to explain the most of elementary questions asked or problems faced by the now globalised citizen, placing hisher hope and expectation into that projected future.

And the overwhelming problem facing mankind at the beginning of the 21st century is that of its own philosophy.

'Where are we now as a race?', 'Where are we going ?' and 'Where did we come from?' are some common questions asked, but not answered by the expert authorities in organised politics, science, culture and religion.

Why do we seem incapable, despite having built a monumental edifice called the scientific way and methodology; and notwithstanding the progressing technology derived from that; why then can that same worldview not answer a simple question like: "If there is such a thing as God, as so many of us have been told, then where and what is it?"

We find an evolved human genetic disposition to form allegiances and to carry and ascribe to certain beliefs, often founded or exposited by certain individuals or groups.

Kings and knights, magicians, clerics and sages of old have transformed into the experts and advisors of the new.


Consultancy has become the catch-phrase, often stifling the natural curiousity to find answers for one's own questions in a denial of one's own creative impulses in an adventure of self-discovery.

Today, we find the allegiances to political ideologies, religious dogmas or some other culturally based agenda.

All those liasons and associations have something in common however; they all become coloured in the individuals which belong to them.

Redemption from this filtered state of affairs is found in a paradigm which is based on the precept of disallowing personality to individualise the work to be done or to colour the information to be collected as one's personal archive or one's private library of creation, subject to one's own individual fancies and desires.

Albert Einstein once remarked: "The greatest trouble in the world is the idea of a personal God!"

And so one might agree with the depersonification of Albert Einstein's 'God', whom he rather affectionately called: "The Old One" and of whom he also said: "God does not play dice with the world", referring to his rejection of the idea that life and nature's processes are intrinsically arbitrary in an universe defined by chance and random events.


He thought of 'God' as being the intelligence behind the natural laws of nature, as found in the sciences and the mathematics which he studied and he believed that nature had to be based in geometrical principles, rather than in probabilities defined in statistics and stochastic matrices.


And there were others before and after him; Plato and Aristotle; Pythagoras, the Greek geometers and Niels Bohr, Max Planck and Werner Heisenberg, all contemporaries of Albert Einstein with Paul Dirac, Max Born and Wolfgang Pauli in their contributions to the birth of quantum mechanics.

The symmetries in nature, numbers and sequences and fundamental constants; all seem finetuned and set into relationships with one another to create the universe and all the cosmological entities within it.

And one should not forget another genius of contemporary science in Isaac Newton.

But what the modern world has tried to forget and to sequester away under an umbrella of a perceived historical ignorance, was the immense interest Isaac Newton, the father of all of classical mechanics, had in the concepts of religion.

And what is the modern moral evaluation by his peers, judging a man whom they portray to the students of science as having had no equal in his time in regards to his scientific work, inventions and mathematical insights?


His power of pure intellect, like Einstein's, is often used to exemplify the necessity for logical thought and concentration in the pursuit of scientific and mathematical excellence by the students in those fields.

Is it embarrassing to tell the full story; that Isaac Newton spent months at a time trying to decipher scrolls, like the 'Book of Daniel' and the 'Book of Revelation' in the bible?

"He must have been deluded in the religious fervour of his age!", they would have said.


But was he?

Could a mathematical prodigy like Isaac Newton have been so gullible?

Isn't it more likely, that he sensed that there was something to it - and that it had to be scientific?!

Isaac Newton's 'God' is the same as Albert Einstein's 'God' and yet it is completely impersonal.

It must be, by the definition of the working ethic!


But is it?

Could it be possible, that once the 'God of Science' has become totally impersonal, that then this same 'God' is reborn in a 'God of OmniScience', who allows, even demands a personification, because of its own definition?

And what if that had been the masterplan throughout the ages anyway?


Can we then ever know and understand such a masterplan?

And what if all the clerical authorities around the globe are forced by their own followers to take notice?

What if modern science can prove to them that their 'Allah' and 'Jehovah' and Yahwhey and 'Brahma' and 'Baha' and 'Krishna' and 'Ra' and 'Osiris' and 'Set' and 'The Big Goat behind the Old Oaken Tree in the Walpurgisnacht on April 30th' are all one and the same?


What if their scriptures and ancient scrolls became illumined in a new light of omniscience; should their powerbase not become depersonalised, if they are shown to have followed a very limited interpretation of their 'sacred texts' indeed?

Where would they go in their grandstanding of and about 'God's Law' for the 'chosen people' and for the 'infidels'?


It would be the end of falsified religious dogma and the death of manipulative religion as such.

Because omniscience is Omni-Science, the Science of 'The All' for 'The All' and the German word for the cosmos or the universe is "Das ALL" - Albert Einstein and Max Planck and Werner Heisenberg and Wolfgang Pauli and Max Born would have liked that in their contemplations upon the natural order of things.

Albert Einstein also said: "Science without Religion is lame and Religion without Science is blind" - and this essay (and related treatizes found on this website and forums) shall try to synergise the two worldviews in a redefinition of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle and its statistical nature within a geometrical interpretation of quantum mechanics.


And then would peace between the nations have a chance, because the demise of the old religions and the already internationally accepted profundity of the scientific way and methodology.

Like music, dance or mathematics, a new language would sweep the old world of hate and dispossession, the ways of disempowerment and disbelief under the carpet of the illumination of a new base of knowledge.


A new song would be sung and the nations and tribes and families at war with each other could embrace one another in a new way of looking at the world around themselves and their individuated places within it.

And all the many things they had learned from their history through the ages of humankind; all their legends, myths and fables, their religions and their sciences; all would become integrated within themselves in a renewed understanding and the death of their ignorance regarding themselves.



This essay then shall fulfil Isaac Newton's Dream of Alchemy; the decipherment of his obsession to synthesise his religious faith with his mathematical and scientific insights and geniality.

A detailed alphanumeric decoding key for Isaac Newton's Alchemy is:


(A,J,S,B*,K*,T*,....)=(1,10,19,28,37,46,...) and as an archetypical tensor Ai=1j;

(B,K,T,C*,L*,U*,...)=(2,11,20,29,38,47,...) and as an archetypical tensor Bi=2j;

(C,L,U,D*,M*,V*,...)=(3,12,21,30,39,48,...) and as an archetypical tensor Ci=3j;

(D,M,V,E*,N*,W*,...)=(4,13,22,31,40,49,...) and as an archetypical tensor Di=4j;

(E,N,W,F*,O*,X*,...)=(5,14,23,32,41,50,...) and as an archetypical tensor Ei=5j;

(F,O,X,G*,P*,Y*,...)=(6,15,24,33,42,51,...) and as an archetypical tensor Fi=6j;

(G,P,Y,H*,Q*,Z*,...)=(7,16,25,34,43,52,...) and as an archetypical tensor Gi=7j;

(H,Q,Z,I*,R*,A**,...)=(8,17,26,35,44,53,...) and as an archetypical tensor Hi=8j;

(I,R,A*,J*,S*,B**,...)=(9,18,27,36,45,54,...) and as an archetypical tensor Ii=9i.


This key will be extensively used to give interpretative meanings to decoded scriptural hieroglyphics, say as in the example below:

EZEKIEL=73=U**=U* Z=U ZZ=21 52=EZEK I EL=ZK AD O-10 ELI=ZADOK EBI=IBEZADOK=ABE ZIDOK=ABE KODIZ=BE ZODIAK=7 66=EGYPT=TYPE 7


The Hebrew Torah and the Christian Bible are not historical records of particular chronologies; but they (and many similar recordings) are ALLEGORIES built on ARCHETYPES.

The physical universe came into existence THROUGH and by those archetypes manifesting in their energizations in divers manners.

For example the biochemical DNA (DeoxyriboNucleicAcid) manifests a physical [Hardware] energization (by and through the 'Laws of Nature') of a quasi-physical [Software] Construction-PROGRAM.

The quasi-physicality is like an ARCHITECTURE, which the 'Hardware of Life' can utilize as its 'Software, often termed 'Spirit' or the animating 'LifeForce' or Chi or Prana or Orgone or Mitogenetic Radiation.


This 'Spirit' is encoded in the scriptures as the 'Energy of God' and uses a TEMPLATE- or BLUEPRINT-CODE to manifest geometrical structure from its template form, say as in a biochemically interacting 'Blueprint for Life' and as the PHYSICALISED DNA of nucleotidal alphabets and basepairings.


The entire universe is a manifested 'spiritual template' and so is energized by this 'spirit' in multitudinous substructures and interrelationships between geometric forms and energy distributions.




This Isaac Newton knew and he attempted to discover this 'spirit' within and through the physical apparatus he invented and designed he sought to 'bring forth' the 'glory of God' in mathematical relationships and the 'Laws of Nature'.


This essay shall satisfy Newton's hunger to 'lay bare' the timelines so succinctly encoded and occultised in the prophetic books of the (King James) bible and Isaac Newton's own encoding shall exemplify him as one of the last genuine 'Natural Philosophers' - a real scientist, who finds no quarrels between the scientific methodology of experiment and verification and the spiritual insights and 'knowingness' of and about that 'encompassing unity' named 'God' and 'Jesus'.


The biblical encoded timeline is fourfold and should not be analysed in isolated parts.

The four parts, all describe the same timeline with characterisations archetyped and as elucidated following the next few Ezekielean paragraphs.


The timeline will begin to particularise on December 1st, 2009 and will INTENSIFY from January 18th, 2010 and for this reason; clarification about the possible manifestations will be given under this threaded banner of Isaac Newton's Dream of Alchemy as this timeline progresses towards its major completion on April 1st, 2012.

From December 1st, 2009; the collective groupmind of planet earth will become 'besieged' and the MENTAL ARMAGEDDON will begin INDIVIDUALISED for all and sundry, but collectified in a 'mental atmosphere' surrounding the planetary environs.

The 'invading extraterrestrial army' is something, that is already present within the planetary 'Noosphere', but is necessitated to remain 'cocooned' for the reason of 'noncompletion' of that timeline.

It is simply a gestation period for a 'planetary embryo' and a 'Cosmic Baby' of whom ALL inhabitants of earth are part of and in whose destiny ALL are testified to share.


The baby's birth is programmed to occur on December 21st, 2012 to align a gestation period to a timewarped conception programmed to be mirrored in a historical timeline of January 6th, 6BC (coinciding with orthodox-Julian Chrismas festivities as 12 days from civil-Gregorian Christmas festivities).

75 Days from this (Coming of the Wise Magi) date is the civil spring equinox of March 20th, 6BC to timewarp onto the winter solstice on December 21st, 2012.

There will thus be a 75 day extension of the winter solstice 2012 to map the timewarped initialisation onto March 6th, 2013.

From December 21st, 2012 a circle year of exactly 360 Days will calibrate all calendrical system in the Great Platonic Precession of 26,000 Platonic Years being 9,360,000 Days.

This will pinpoint the last 1300 Mayan Kin in 45 Full Moons and 44 New Moons in the Last Full Moon of December 16th, 2013 as Kin #1300 and beginning at the First Full Moon of May 27th, 2010 as Kin #1.

At that time then, the newborn 'Cosmic Baby' (of a new starhumanity) shall be 'fully weaned'.


The prophesied 'Destruction of Armageddon' will become 'common nous' in the release of a 'disaster movie' called '...2012...'.

The 'physical' calamities as depicted in that film can all be avoided, both in intensity and in scope. This depends overall on the mental discipline and maturity exhibited by all and sundry during those 'end times'.

Should one render matches to immature children playing in sandpits, throwing rocks and sand at each other; then it is likely, that the matches might burn the children and the shared environs in different outcomes.


It is the mental Armageddon, which CANNOT be avoided. Every individual personality within the besieged city of Jerusalem-Terrestrialis will be confronted by the 'DevilGod within' and is required to 'pay the dues of having and being within the environment of the latter's 'kingdom'.


The first siege will end and begin a second siege on February 12th, 2011. This second siege will be more psychosomatic and some individuals might 'loose their heads'. Further details shall be published under this thread when so appropriate and following this introduction.



I. Noah's Timeline of 370 7 Days:7+40+110+74+40+7+7+36+56=7+150+150+7+7+56=21+150x2+56=377=265+105+7


II. Ezekiel's Timeline of 430 7 Days:7+390+40=430+7

This timeline defines the ARCHETPED Egyptian Captivity of 430 Years as 430 Days 7 DayYears. This timeline defines the 'turning around' from left to right (Hebrew writing is from right to left) at the nodal mirrors in 390 40=40 390=430.

Archetype=Witnessing Prophet=Moses(with Aaron as Levitical Twin)Moses=Ezekiel=Daniel=Noah= ...=Adam=Noah=Abram=Abraham=Isaac=Jacob=Israel=....



III. Daniel's Timeline of the 2x1335=2670 Days:

2670=1335+1335=2300+370

This timeline encompasses Noah's Timeline and Ezekiel's Timeline. It begins in the link given in Matthew.24.15,27-28 superposing the New Testament (NT) onto the Old Testament (OT) in Danieland ends with Noah's Rainbow Covenant (NRC) in Genesis.8.14-22;9.9-15.


IV. John's Timeline of the Revelation:

This timeline encompasses the other timelines, but allows extension of the warptime loop following the preparation for the 'final confrontation' at Megiddo. It so 'passes' the 'insemination' of the 'Old Earth' in the NRC and includes the 'labour pains' and 'birth pains' of the 'New Earth'.


Many scriptural characters did not exist as physical personages. These includes Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Aaron and Joshua.

The extensive genealogy of Chronicles and Kings is valid only as ARCHETYPICAL lineages and deriving from the beforementioned archetypes.


The Egyptian captivity of the Nation Israel represents an archetyped and symbolic captivity of all and sundry Israelites and where all personages ever existing are RENAMED 'Israel' from Jacob (or Abraham from Abram with Sarah from Sarai).

All human identities ARE ISRAEL from the common archetypical template scripturally and spiritually-energetically defined.


The Assyrian and Babylonian captivities ARE historically factual, but again, many named characters are not actual historical personages, but represents an archetype under selftransformation to suit the historical chronological contexts.

The scriptural encoding begins to describe real historical personages from the timing of the FIRST ISRAELITIC KINGDOM in SAUL-DAVID-SOLOMON from about 1000 BC.

The named prophets, such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel from this timeline onwards then, are double- or multi-identities, who carry besides their human persona, also the prophetic archetype, as Office of Prophet, in the historical fulfilment for the initial alchemical data transmission (which can be labeled in the Starseed of Abraham say)..

The alphanumeric encodings can be used in many (albeit neccessarily selfconsistent) arbitrary ways and divers manners to DECODE the language characteristic alchemy of scriptural hieroglyphics, which is occulted in the histories and the chronologies preserved and edited from their cosmo-hermetic beginnings and transmissions of source information.


Because a particular alphanumeracy relates the Anglosaxon-Arabic alphabet to this scriptural encoding of antiquity through the ARCHETYPED genealogy of JACOB NAME=THE JACOB=JACOB AMEN=31 33=ISRAEL=64; as the SON=48 of ISAAC=33=NAME=AMEN=IS AB*C; as the SON of ABRAM AH=35 9=I ABRAM=ABRAHAM=44=33 11=THE 1 1=8=44=22 22=11 11 11 11; the lineage of DAN=ADAM=19=1=9=10=1 0=1, as the 4th generation of Abraham-Isaac-Israel-(12 Sons 1 (named) Daughter) is used to decode the ancient alchemy (of THOTH=HERMES=MERCURY=MOSES=LEVI=GEMINI=ABC...XYZ=3rd Son of Jacob).




The Zodiac of Abraham of Mesopotamian Ur is the Ezekielean 'Office of Zadok-Melchizedek=101=5bin=Melchisedec=86=5' encoded in his Adamic lineage:

1=^=Reuben=Aries=Ram=Mars by Leah#1=Jacob#1
2=_
=Simeon=Taurus=Bull=Venus by Leah#2=Jacob#2
3=`
=Levi=Gemini=Twin=Hermes Trismegistos=Mercury by Leah#3=Jacob#3
4=a
=Dan=Cancer=Crab=69=Dragon-Node=Full Moon by Bilhah#1=Jacob#5 in positional matriarchial exchange Bilhah-Leah
5=b
=Judah=Leo=Griffin=Star=Sun by Leah#4=Jacob#4 in transmutation (breach Pharez-Zarah via Mannaseh-Ephraim via Esau-Jacob via Cain-Abel via God-God) with Leah-Bilhah
6=c
=Gad=Virgo=Unicorn=Chiron by Zilpah#1=Jacob#7 in transmutation (breach Sodom-Gomorrah) witrh Zilpah-Bilhah
7=d
=Napthali=Libra=Scales=96=Dragon-Anti-Node=New Moon by Bilhah#2=Jacob#6 in transmutation Bilhah-Zilpah
8=e
=Asher=Scorpio=Eagle=Cockatrice=Pluto by Zilpah#2=Jacob#8
9=f
=Issachar=Sagittarius=Arrow=Jupiter by Leah#5=Jacob#9 in lower transmutation (Reuben's Mandrakes) with Leah-Rachel from Zilpah-Bilhah
10=g
=Zebulon=Capricorn=Seagoat by Leah#6=Jacob#10 in upper tranmutation (Dinah's Honour) with Rachel-Leah from Bilhah-Zilpah
13=[
=Dinah=Ophiuchus=SerpentTamer by Leah#7=Jacob#11 as Jacob 13th SonDaughter allowing internal mirroring of DaughterSons

11=h
=Joseph=Aquarius=WaterBearer=Uranus by Rachel#1=Jacob#12
12=i=Benjamin=Pisces=Fishes=Neptune by Rachel#2=Jacob#13



The Mirror date of Wednesday, March 28th, 2011 mapping the actual crucifixion day of Wednesday, March 28th, 31 AD also specifies the 70 week prophecy in Daniel.


Daniel.9:
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


We add 370 days of the Noahic timeline to and from the 'cutoff' day above to fulfil both, the 1335 1335=2670=2300 370 daycount of the timeline as decreed by the World Logos.

The Internal Processing so spans from Wednesday, March 24th, 2010 to Monday, March 28th, 2011; and the External Processing completes the warptime loop to Sunday, April 1st, 2012.

March 24th, 2010-Noah's Rainbow Covenant ( 0) = April 1st, 2012

May 18th, 2010 = Removal of the Covering ( 56) = February 5th, 2012

June 23rd, 2010 = Dove of Peace ( 36) = December 31st, 2011

June 30th, 2010 = Raven Searches ( 7) = December 24th, 2011

July 7th, 2010 = Land Appears ( 7) = December 17th, 2011

August 16th, 2010 = Waters Sink ( 40) = November 7th, 2011

October 29th, 2010 = Mount Ararat ( 74) = August 25th, 2011

February 16th, 2011 = End of Rising Flood ( 110) = May 7th, 2011

March 28th, 2011 = Flood Begins ( 40) = March 28th, 2011


EZEKIEL=73=U**=U* 26=U* Z=U Z Z=21 52

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"This most beautiful system [The Universe] could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being." - Sir Isaac Newton

"No being exists or can exist which is not related to space in some way. God is everywhere, created minds are somewhere, and body is in the space that it occupies; and whatever is neither everywhere nor anywhere does not exist. And hence it follows that space is an effect arising from the first existence of being, because when any being is postulated, space is postulated." - Sir Isaac Newton

"A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "Universe", a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest — a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security." - Albert Einstein

Thank you serenesam for this marvellous quote from the Logos.
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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26318 4 days, 20 hours ago - February 28th, 2011 hello arachne! fascinating!
i'm looking for the star trek movie!
please continue!
can you comment on the charles material-and the so-called heather people?
just for fun...




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26320 4 days, 20 hours ago - February 28th, 2011 It has to be 2 or 3 times Steve's post has been regurgitated...I for one would like to see it addressed.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26440 4 days, 6 hours ago - February 28th, 2011 arctourist wrote;

hello arachne! fascinating!
i'm looking for the star trek movie!
please continue!
can you comment on the charles material-and the so-called heather people?
just for fun...


Greetings arctourist!

Perhaps you are adressing the first star trek movie: 'Star Trek - the Motion Picture' ?
Yes indeed, this one has a magnificent script about the data probe created by mankind, sent out into the universe to collect data and then to process this information following certain programming by its creator.

This movie has relatively primitive 'special effects' and is much slower in development, then the later exponents of its genre; but encapsulates the purpose of creation and the 'nature of God' in its deeper essences.

Looking at it as a sci-fi film alone, so would obscure the inner gnosis, the philosophical meanings of the creative story telling.

This is who you are in the deepest meaning arctourist.
You are a data probe, sent into this universe to collect data for your creator and to process this information through and by your senses and experiences - something you term your life's journey.

The crucial ingredient in this journey then becomes your mind as the processor of this gathered information and your unique individuated manner of creating 'feedback loops' to where the original impetus for your mission had come from.

Like the data probe, you have basically unlimited potential to grow and to expand in your intelligence and perception and to eventually rediscover your origins and your creator.

Like the data probe, you will reach a stage in your development, when you will know, that the purpose of the seedling program is for you to become able to reconnect with your creator in a synthesis and a grander self expression for the two of you.

We are not here to comment on other data sharers or any personality issues, unless they are directly in interference with the agency of the elders as stated in the introductory post.

However, we may say this regarding the Charles-Heather-Thuban- ... or whatever other material which is prevalent on the alternative and other forums.

So without 'getting persoanl', our understanding of 'Charles' is that of an , lets say aristocratically emergent 'insider' with certain priviledges as to the access of 'certain' information, ordinarily sequestered away from the public arenas and 'libraries'.

So despite, the masks of the 'hooligan' (many aristocrats or 'lords' of the British peerage are 'rebels' to their 'lineages'); 'Charles' has certain priviledges as to the 'interwoven' web of the global 'aristocracy' or 'bloodline ptb'.

'Charles' however has only restricted access to the 'lineage' data base, which he has rebelled against and so his information base is somewhat compromised according to the 'climate' for and in which particular information is 'meant' to be become shared with the greater populus.

The 'Heather' material is like most (and we mean here 90%) of the so called 'alternative data' found on the worldwide net of the data sharing; a mixture of partial truth infused with particularly directed disinformation.

We are well aware of the Thuban data and the polarising agenda it manifested on the old Project Avalon forum. If any agenda pursues the aim of unifying and harmonising apparently opposite perceptions; then we would support such an agenda in our function of the peacemakers.


It is a 'Law of Confusion', which is programmed to allow the present warpzone to attain a maximum saturation potential in the polarisation of the 'human groupmind' into two paradigmatic viewpoints, both equal in value.

This is often called STO and STS by the 'alternatives', but carries a much much deeper agenda; which only relatively few can discern.

The 'Service to Self' is actually equal to the 'Service to Others' from its higher perspective.
Allow me to indicate this to you from a more 'gnostic' or insightful point of logic.

Separation within Unity is not the same as Unity within Separation.

The former allows the eternity of creation to expand without limitation BUT places a surrounding coevolving say perimeter or boundary about this expansion or growth.

In scientific terms, this means there can be a seedling universe phaseshifting into multiverses, but remain encompassed by an omniverse, something which many would then term 'Creator' or God.

God in these terms so evolves WITH the expanding, potentially eternal creation, but remains the final frontier and the limit any of the encompassed entities, might these be universes, galaxies, stars or planets or civilisations or individual human merkabahs, can reach and aspire to.

The latter allows ANY individual to grow in infinite potential, BUT denies the perimeter of the 'Creator Boundary' as then every individual remains ubounded by any 'God as final frontier' conceptuality.

The concept of a God so becomes superfluous as 'God' is everything - which it is; so the apparent paradox of the two perspectives becomes one for individual discernment and 'free will' or volition.

From this, in scientific terms, derives the concept of the multiverses and the eternal cosmologies without beginning in space and time (No Big Bang) and the idea, (now perpetuating the global politico-socioeconomic paradigm on Gaia), that economic and material progress serves all the best in a growth potential unlimited in any selflimiting concept such as a 'God Envelope'.

From this develop particular economic models about 'free markets' and the 'balancing of the budgets' and the worship of the Fiscal Nous as the 'Way of the Devil' in the 'divide and conquer' mentality.

Thank you arctourist for your enquiry.

Arachne-Phoenix




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26441 4 days, 5 hours ago - February 28th, 2011 hey thanks...i was just about to ask you,what would be a good question you would hope to be asked?




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26443 4 days, 5 hours ago - February 28th, 2011 arctourist wrote:
hey thanks...i was just about to ask you,what would be a good question you would hope to be asked?


One of the best questions anyone can ask is:

"Where can I go to truly and absolutely look at God?"

Arachne-Phoenix




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26559 3 days, 9 hours ago - March 1st, 2011 Arachne wrote:
arctourist wrote:
hey thanks...i was just about to ask you,what would be a good question you would hope to be asked?


One of the best questions anyone can ask is:

"Where can I go to truly and absolutely look at God?"

Arachne-Phoenix


Everywhere and nowhere (Ever(yw)here and now-here)?

Where would you suggest?

Dwell in divine nonchalance



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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26562 3 days, 7 hours ago - March 1st, 2011 i would say just look in the closest mirror bro
or step out to the back yard and have some tall sunflowers-who doesn;t love sunflowers!




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Re: The Arachne thread

Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:17 pm


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26584 3 days, 4 hours ago - March 2nd, 2011 i'd like to ask arachna-hey arachnae-that's plural i guess-
well can you see some alternate timelines around us-anything noteworthy?
or is that an obtuse question i reckon...
i've always been curious about so-called 5-dee and all this stuff about twelve strands...what about the shoemaker resonance'n'all that...and this so-called wormwood...well it's all a bit confusing-
is that not a brown dwarf,and how do we get to the hollow earth before it's too late,,,
and ...well forget all that...
if god is your thing,tell me more about that then-




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26606 3 days, 1 hour ago - March 2nd, 2011 Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life
Arachne wrote:
arctourist wrote:

hey thanks...i was just about to ask you,what would be a good question you would hope to be asked?


One of the best questions anyone can ask is:

"Where can I go to truly and absolutely look at God?"
Arachne-Phoenix


#26559 March 2nd, 2011

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Everywhere and nowhere (Ever(yw)here and now-here)?

Where would you suggest?
Dwell in divine nonchalance


Indeed unplugged, as your name suggests the omnipresence and omniscience of the divine energy has become unplugged from the side of the undefinable chaos to bridge the divide in to the realm of the order out of complexities.

And in your splendiferous discernments, you have helped to lift the VEIL of the EVIL in realising this divinity indeed in having foun d it to just BE HERE.

Arachne-Phoenix



Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life
#26562 March 2nd, 2011

arctourist

i would say just look in the closest mirror bro
or step out to the back yard and have some tall sunflowers-who doesn;t love sunflowers!



Now this is just what would have been our initial reply to your query, arctourist.

On second thought, we had decided to answer in saying something much aligned with the reply of unplugged.

We decided to answer in the statement; 'Just open your eyes, wherever you are and you can see IT as the Creator-Creation dyadic monad.

Phoenix-Arachne


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life
#26584 March 2nd, 2011

arctourist

i'd like to ask arachna-hey arachnae-that's plural i guess-
well can you see some alternate timelines around us-anything noteworthy?
or is that an obtuse question i reckon...
i've always been curious about so-called 5-dee and all this stuff about twelve strands...what about the shoemaker resonance'n'all that...and this so-called wormwood...well it's all a bit confusing-
is that not a brown dwarf,and how do we get to the hollow earth before it's too late,,,
and ...well forget all that...
if god is your thing,tell me more about that then-


You are welcome arctourist!

1. Arachne=singular and is found in Greek mythology; whilst Arachnida is taxonomic classification of arthropods, including spiders, scorpions, mites and ticks

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2. Particular timelines are indicated in this thread and they are certainly not obtuse in the contexts they are exhibited.

3. The 5D represents basically the blending of a 4th spacial dimension in the geometrisized sense with the present 4-dimensional Minkowski-Euclidean spacetime metric of the measured an observed universe.

We could give you a technical breakdown on this but feel this is inappropriate at this time. Many indicators about this can also be found in this thread.

4. The 12-stranded DNA is a misnomer applied to a basic reconfiguration of the existing Wilkins-Crick-Watson-Franklin crystallographic biochemically encoded configuration of the molecular structure of the deoxyribonucleic acids in the nucleotidal basepairings for the couplings between the Adenine-Thymine/Uracil and the Guanine-Cytosine submolecular complexes.

The crystallography of this geometrical double-helicx can be extended in a duopentagonal face-to-face decagonal partitioning of the fourtiered base couplings to represent the well known quasicrystalline pentagonal symmetry of Penrose Tiles and Shechtmanite quasicrystals.
This then invites the 'sacred geometry' of the Fibonacci encodings to represent a longrange rotational and a longrange translational symmetry for the propagation of the crystalline growth pattern; then manifesting in the biovital cellular mitosis of geometric cellular reproduction.

This extends the 64 codex of the amino acid transcriptase from the DNA/RNA basis to 256 and also allows particular 'mathematical permutation oracles' like the 'I Ching' to become in this manner quadrupled.

The 'mixup' in many 'alternative sources' and authors with a 12d DNA reencoding revolves about the fourtieredness of the dimensional toplogies of a 12D brane universe consisting of 4 worlds in spacetimes with 3 space and 1 timegate OR a threefolded dimensional construct without time, but all timegates being replaced by an added space dimension in 3+3+3+3=4+4=4=12 iow.

5. The Schumann Resonance we allow you to discover for yourself in the following hint.

Find out how long it would take for a lightsignal to travel around the perimeter of the earth of say 40,000 kilometers.
Then use the invariance of the local lightspeed to define the basic lower limit for the Schumann resonance as 7.5 Hertz.

6. Nibiru = New Earth = Nemesis and the incoming Elenin comet is just that, a comet, which will cause NO major interference with the celestial dynamics of the planetary orbit and constitution.
Elenin does however herald the 'great changes' in the cosmic information matrix in being a fractal of the Great Platonic Year of 360 days in the 65 baktuns of the Grand Age of Homo sapiens sapiens.

The comets, as said throughout the ages, say by Mother Shipton and Michel de Nostradame; are indeed celestial messengers and so can be associated with Kachina, as the blue star of Hopi prophecy or the second coming of the Plumed Serpent Kukulkan or the 12th Mahdi, or the Kalki or the cosmic christ consciousness or CCC.
In the encoded script of the Book of Revelation it is called 'wormwood'.

This 'second coming' however, this time - will be feminine in the physical and male in the mental to redefine the cosmic legislature from first principle.
Then after this 'law making;' is completed, the new order will be given to the executive, namely a renamed Old World of Gaia then called a New Earth in a planetary ascension to a plateau of a Starplanet.

7. The earth is NOT hollow in 3D (of space) but carries a crystalline transformation gate at its centre defined in the laws of gravitation.
So considering the earth as higher dimensional, will concentrate the 3D earth in a 4D earth the size of a crystal so 3 centimetres across.

The physical reality of this, then has resulted in many 'channelers' misreading the 3D earth as being hollow, instead of realising that it is the higher dimensional planetary inertia structure, which CAN BE SAID to be hollow.

8. 'God' is Our thing indeed and there exists one much cherished secret manual, cherished by the so called PTB; which is practically unknown by the general population and the 'alternative' discussion forums.

This 'secret book' is the basis for all that the ptb do or not do; because they understand the implications of this data rather better than the academics and historians, who are encouraged to 'belittle' and marginalise this data for reasons apparent to the ones, who can read 'between the lines' and the mainstream agendas.

It suffices to say, that the populus is 'superignorant' about this 'secret data base', though anyone can easily access the 'weirdness' of this publication.

So arctourist, if you truly wish to know what we are and where we are 'coming from' try to 'Understand the Gospel of Thomas'.

www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html

Arachne-Phoenix





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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26710 2 days, 19 hours ago - March 2nd, 2011 aw-was that it then
well-thanks for the answers,arachs
i was gonna ask more about this comet then...
anyways thanks! i'll think of another question if you don't mind?
is this the longest winter ever or what,right?




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26922 2 days, 2 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 wow...ever have weird dreams? what the heck is goin on,is what i'd like to know! dang!




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26929 2 days, 1 hour ago - March 3rd, 2011 If you understand the gospel of Thomas,Arachne?
What is meant by:

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26961 1 day, 23 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 yeah what's that all about right? and some of these other things too..must have esoteric meanings...let's just take a few of these at a time and try to see what we can get from it....
anyone ?




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26962 1 day, 23 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 Tbonyandsteak wrote:
If you understand the gospel of Thomas,Arachne?
What is meant by:

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."



Sure tbonyandsteak!

Saying #114 relates very closely to to the 'warning of sorts' of the resurrected christ body (which becomes defined in the decomposition of the wave-particle duality in quantum mechanics in hyperspace); NOT to touch this 'lightbody'.

John 20 (King James Version)
1The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
...

9For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
...

11But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,

12And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

13And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my LORD, and I know not where they have laid him.

14And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.

15Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.

16Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. ...



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The Star of Magdala as the Lady of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone and the Overthrow of the Red Robed Whore of Babylon Archetypology

(105) Jesus said : "He who knows his father and mother will he be called son of a harlot ?"

What 'the Hell' does the Cosmic Logos, the Embodiment of the Love of God mean with a statement such as this?

This message shall elucidate the meaning and 'prove scripturally' that the described imagery and symbology has been distorted by the zealotry of the biblical scribes and editors, attempting to manifest the 'Law and Will of God' in their divers interpretations, mainly literal, in a modus operandi grossly lacking spiritual or metaphysical gnosis or insight.




William Blake - The Whore of Babylon

The following scriptures from the Book of Revelation have held kidnapped the Power, Grace and Beauty of the Feminine for almost 2000 years.
In particular the sexual power and essence of the feminine, say as described in the Song of Songs, the Song of Solomon in the Old Testament; has become distoted into the image of the 'Whore of Babylon' as the epitome of evil and sexual debauchery.

This message then shall show, that the FALSE IMAGE for this 'Female Whoredom' will indeed be destroyed in the 'Lake of Fire and Brimstone' as the 'Hellish Damnation' for all Eternity.

In the TRUE nature of the deliverance; this part of John's Revelation shall also describe this selfsame 'Wisdom Story' of God as Creator Source and the Logos; as a mythologicalised archetype of the Arthurian Legends, encompassed as the Lady of the Lake, Viviane aka Nimueh and the Keeper of the Sword of Deliverance,

The SWORD=WORDS=79 shall Redeem the Ladyship as the Queendom of Heaven and the Kingdom of Hell in their synthesis of the Harmony of Merlin's HeavenHell.




The Star of Magdala as the Lady of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone


Excalibur of IAMTHATAMI, SWORD=WORDS of Deliverance of Arthur's Court and Merlin's Magic



Revelation 16:19
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Revelation 17:
1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.



These are the seven principles of the cosmogenesis, which many call cherubimic kingdoms or heavens or archons; which become supplemented in an eight' principle of relativity where no antiprinciple exists. It is so part of the 10-principle tier, yet apart due to the nooexistence of any such thing as antirelativity.

The seven devils in the scriptures below, are so seven antiprinciples, able to distort symbols and archetypes in human interpretation.

In doing so Mary Magdalene is freed to OWN the Devil Images and is made a Shehe in template form by Jesus himherself - so choosing hisher Logos Queen in the Uniqueness to become the Manyness in the Alchemy of the 'heavenly Wedding' of the New Heaven and the New Earth.

(114) Simon Peter said to them : "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said : "Look, I will guide her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit like You males. For every female who will make herself male will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."

Two additional unpublished 'secret sayings' of the GOT:


Saying#115:
Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your selfimage will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."

Saying#116:
Jesus said to the apostles: "If the people come up to you in numbers, saying, tell us your secrets, tell us your secrets; then reply to them, that you cannot do so for reason of the secrecy. Tell them, that should they know, they would become insane.
But if some persist and ask you privately; then share the secrets with them in measure of their willingness to become insane in the world."


Mark 16:9
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Luke 8:2
And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,


9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 18:2
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Revelation 18:10
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Revelation 18:21
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.[/i]


Into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone THE FALSE IMAGE OF WOMANHOOD goes into the SEA of the MIRROR=SPACETIME=SPIRIT=91.

The selfsame SEA from which the FALSE BEAST rises in Revelation.13; namely YOUR Fake Image seen in the Mirror on the Wall in your bathroom or your bedroom.

The Logos Queens are SHATTERING the Mirrors of the Fakes.

The following wisdom sayings from the Manual of the Redemption of Man relate to this and are herewith published to further send the astral thoughtforms of the deceptions into the bodies of the old humans in invigoration of the hellfire Kundalini by the heavenly manna of the Kundalini from the Logos.

Metaphorical Caterpillars the old humans are and Starhuman Butterflies they can become in attainment of the wholesome Eucharists and Suppers; encompassing both, the Heavens Above and the Hells Below.

69) Jesus said : "Fortunate are those who are persecuted in their hearts. It is they who have truly come to know the Father. Fortunate are those who are hungry, for they will satisfy their bellies."


(70) Jesus said : "If You bring forth what is within You, what You have will save You. If You do not have that within You, what You do not have within You will kill You."

(71) Jesus said : "I will destroy this construction, and no one will be able to rebuild it again."

(72) A man said to Him : "Tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me." He said to him : "Man, who has made Me a divider ?" He turned to His disciples and said to them : "I am not a divider, am I ?"

(48) Jesus said : "When two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move !' and it will move."

(80) Jesus said : "He who knew the world has mastered the body, but he who has mastered the body is superior to the world."

(81) Jesus said : "He who has grown wealthy will rule, and he who possesses power will renounce it."

(82) Jesus said : "Whoever is near Me is near the fire, and whoever who is far from Me is far from the Kingdom."


In the scriptures below in Revelation.2; it is CLEAR that it is in Jesus' authority to GIVE the Morning Star or Venus or Lucifer or the Evening Star or Aphrodite as the Goddess of Love to whoever 'overcomes' the Old World of the old symbols and the old dispensations.

Then in Revelation.22; it is also CLEAR that Jesus HIMHERSELF IS The Morning Star as Lucifer or the Female Messiah of the Manyness of the Eucharist in A Lucifer =Lucifera and where the Male HeShe Logos defines Jesus Christ as Emmanuel Melchisedec MIRRORING Himself in Herself and as Christ Jesus of Mary Magdalene as the WE as I=ME of the Human Cosmic I AM Identity.



The Star of Draconis as the Red Dragon from Hell entwined in eternal Harmony with the Star of Magdala and within and without all Logos Lovers Who can TAKE THE HEAT of the BODYMIND=FORMED WAVE for the Individualised Particularisation of the New Hell on Earthy Serpentina AND the ICEYNESS of the MINDBODY=WAVED FORM for the Individual Particularisation of the New Heaven on Earthy Gaia.


Revelation.2:
27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28And I will give him the morning star.
29He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Revelation.22:
16"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

2Peter.1.19-21:
19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.






The New EVEADAM = ChristLove of the harmonised MaleFemale Logos of the resurrection.

Arachne-Phoenix




  • Arachne







Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26979 1 day, 22 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 Correct me if I am wrong.
In simpel turns it goes like this.

Saying#115:
Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your self image will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."

I understand the lion of truth as the PTB. (Royals equals lions). to eat it is to acknowledge(understand) it.
What is meant by 115, If you dont understand that the world is about oppression, you cant be yourself becourse you have acceptet the unacceptical and that will blind yourself.
(Which reminds a lot of a description of a trauma)

What I have seen that what is understood, the seven mountains is the Vatican which is build between the 7 mountains,
the 3 power is Vatican, City of London and Washington.
Who worship Mary Magdalena in secrecy but expressed through symbolism, The symbol of liberty,
bloodline of Mary, Princess Europe, Snake Goddesses, Eve, Eve's Apple
More on that.
Symbols in logos
Especially expressed in the symbol PTB uses in Europe


Which in essence is about oppression of individual, alienation from the Christ consciousness.
Which is about knowing yourself.




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Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:22 pm


Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#26989 1 day, 21 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 well maybe it's time to be borne-again christians...that would be cool if like a few thousand of us just did it...
isn't it time for jesus?
except,then i've been hearing,that now,instead of jesus,MAITREYA's the one....

so where does maitreya fit into this whole thing...
i find i have to go back and start again,there's so many loose ends i never even picked up from even back in the '90's
that's what i meant when i mentioned praying for time...just time to learn some basic stuff...and there's more of it every day...frustrating when the more you know,the less you know you know..!
thanks for your patience-and your help with some of these things
oh and watch this video....tell me what you think about this!






  • arctourist






Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27062 1 day, 14 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 arctourist wrote:
well maybe it's time to be borne-again christians...that would be cool if like a few thousand of us just did it...
isn't it time for jesus?
except,then i've been hearing,that now,instead of jesus,MAITREYA's the one....

so where does maitreya fit into this whole thing...
i find i have to go back and start again,there's so many loose ends i never even picked up from even back in the '90's
that's what i meant when i mentioned praying for time...just time to learn some basic stuff...and there's more of it every day...frustrating when the more you know,the less you know you know..!
thanks for your patience-and your help with some of these things
oh and watch this video....tell me what you think about this!




Shaloma of the Mind to you tbonyandsteak and arctourist!

There are two major forms of the 'Powers-That-Be'; a ptb and a PTB.
We, the returned 'ancients ones' - who are also within you, but suppressed by your levels of self allowance of processing particular information of the remembrances - address the PTB of the Logos and not the ptb most of you refer to.

The PTB is like a wave and cannot be individuated in its encompassment; whilst the ptb is what you may label as a 'elite group' of individual collectives in whatever hierarchical structures constructed.

The so called 'second coming' of whatever label, so becomes a paradoxical affair, as it will and is necessitated to be BOTH, an individual coupling between everyones so called Christ-Consciousness (who is the Lion of Judah as the symbolic royalty, which was indeed 'hijacked' by the ptb ) AND the planetary human groupsoul as a collective.

The following passage from the Gospel of Luke is both symbolic and allegorical and to a much lower percentage historical in the year 28 AD and comprises, what you might term a 'warp period' in the linear timeflow for this particular human civilisation, beginning so 23,616 BC and when Cro Magnon man became the sole genus of homo sapiens sapiens in the extinction of neanderthal man.

This warp zone is repeated in these 'endtimes' and will end in the passover/easter 2012.

The ptb know this as well as the PTB.

Now you can draw your own conclusions and engage your sleuthiness to decipher what the recent occurrences on many forums and discussion boards infer in regards to this 'secret timeline' and their divers agendas.

This forum here is no exception and the 'enemies within', say as the 'cast out devils' have become exposed and they are faced with two choices.

Either they can attempt to assimilate with the PTB and denounce the ptb OR they can continue to fight, reject and quarrel with the PTB in mistakenly identifying the latter's cosmic identity as that of the ptb or whatever other 'evil alternative scenario' they have created in their human mindsets.

Allow us to clarify something here; ALL Human Incarnates; no matter what 'side they are on' and no matter what 'roles' they are playing in this unfoldment of a new history - are diveine shards of the creator-creation monad and have come here to allow a maximised polarisation 'game' to unfold.

All humans, without exceptions, are witnesses for the accelerated evolvement of the cosmic payground in universal intelligence.

This is all we shall say on this for now.

Your video depicts the games of the ptb and carries little interest for us, as all of those 'games' from whatever faction, have become outmanouvered by the PTB.

Luke 4 (King James Version)
1And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

2Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.

3And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.

4And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

5And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

6And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

7If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

8And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

9And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:

10For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:

11And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

13And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

14And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

20And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

22And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son?

23And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

24And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

25But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

26But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.

27And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.

28And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,

29And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.

30But he passing through the midst of them went his way,

31And came down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and taught them on the sabbath days.

32And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.

33And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice,

34Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.

35And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the devil had thrown him in the midst, he came out of him, and hurt him not.

36And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out.

37And the fame of him went out into every place of the country round about.

38And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.

39And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them.

40Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.

41And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.

42And when it was day, he departed and went into a desert place: and the people sought him, and came unto him, and stayed him, that he should not depart from them.

43And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

44And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee.


Phoenix-Arachne




  • Arachne






Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27072 1 day, 13 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 Arachne wrote:


The so called 'second coming' of whatever label, so becomes a paradoxical affair, as it will and is necessitated to be BOTH, an individual coupling between everyones so called Christ-Consciousness (who is the Lion of Judah as the symbolic royalty, which was indeed 'hijacked' by the ptb ) AND the planetary human groupsoul as a collective.

So the lion is adressed differently in this

Saying#115:
Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your self image will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."
(Which reminds a lot of a description of a trauma)

It is:
Christ-Consciousness=Lion of Judah

And the ptb is hiding behind the PTB to avoid being target for critich, judgment or just greed ?

So who is PTB then, Not Charles's 33?
Mother Earth?
Creator?
The living Creator?
Or?




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27082 1 day, 12 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 Tbonyandsteak wrote:
Arachne wrote:


The so called 'second coming' of whatever label, so becomes a paradoxical affair, as it will and is necessitated to be BOTH, an individual coupling between everyones so called Christ-Consciousness (who is the Lion of Judah as the symbolic royalty, which was indeed 'hijacked' by the ptb ) AND the planetary human groupsoul as a collective.

So the lion is adressed differently in this

Saying#115:
Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your self image will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."
(Which reminds a lot of a description of a trauma)

It is:
Christ-Consciousness=Lion of Judah

And the ptb is hiding behind the PTB to avoid being target for critich, judgment or just greed ?

So who is PTB then, Not Charles's 33?
Mother Earth?
Creator?
The living Creator?
Or?


No tbs; the ptb have one immense foreboding, namely, that the PTB should exist.
IT ALONE alone presents any danger, apart from planetary annihilation and self-destruction; to their agendas and hierarchical power structures.

The PTB does exist and functions in parallel to the ptb. The former knows the latter, whilst the latter suspects and fears the former.

This is all we are prepared to say at this nexus point in the warpzone.

We agree in the somewhat encrypted message about the ptb shared below.

Phoenix-Arachne
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c) FAMILY. The family may come first, and fairness for families may be a great, marketable, idea, for political animals to buy and sell, but the pertinent question for potential graduates is; what type, class, sort or kind of group, family, species, sect, clan, cartel, casa, mafia, syndicate, reich, mob or conglomeration are we talking of when we say, ambiguously, such things; and who decides, for whom, what’s what. We gnostics say that dictionaries, such as oxford english, like scripture books, such as the king james bible, can be useful references but are not dictatorial authorities, and that, being autonomous, we are each responsible for the set of meanings that, as a language lexicon, we choose to use, for understanding and communicating.



Jesus (the bush lawyer and country bumpkin from galilee, who was disowned, because of being considered mad, by one of his families when he preached enlightenment in the jewish synagogue) and maybe others, found mankind’s, irreconcilable-antithetical, family difference to be in, logical, quality between self-righteousness, which makes enlightenment-gnosis impossible, and meek-mindedness which, by the elimination of hypocrisy (aka “sin”) makes it, along with universal love, paranormal power and everlasting life, a logical consequence. That man, on his two-year mission, after nearly drowning in the jordan, nearly attaining gnosis-enlightenment, as a solitary experience in the wilderness, and extracting excalibur from its, safety-from-fools, sheath, after years of hard, mental, labour, searching in faulty towers and the hellenised field of the eastern mediterranean, demonstrated-explicated the paranormal-superhuman power(s) that derive(s) from spiritual re-birth into enacting a better type of role-in-narrative, which enables living, in a multi-partner partnership, self-governing by the golden rule of agape, i.e. true, universal-unconditional, love. However both his, orthodox, disciples and adversaries, foolishly and self-righteously, misunderstood what he then said and did and they falsified, deliberately or unintentionally, the record that has been passed on down, by scribes, priests and laities, to us. As g.k. chesterton said, ''It’s not that jesus’ teaching has been tried and found wanting, but that it has been tried and found too hard,'' both to understand and do. The truth of the good-versus-evil dichotomy, knowledge of which enables enlightenment-salvation, which enables water to be walked upon, hands on healing to take place and mountains to be, from a distance, moved, as a logical consequence, but which is not part of any ideological praxis yet, not even christianity’s or any of the other lord-gods’ holy-book religions or mankind’s atheistic-scientific ideologies, must now be revealed, publically-globally, for everyone to see and, if they can, to understand, obey and enact; or if they can’t, reject. Then the Truth can be believed or disbelieved, deliberately and self-responsibly, by everybody; for the bad-old age of pain, ignorance, sin and suffering to end and the good-new golden age with its better-perfected-new world-order of consensual diversity-democracy, including voluntary mutual-aid, healthiness, randiness, handiness and joviality, to begin for we who make the grade. We’ll each be forced to stand up and be counted for our chosen, contestation, side and then be spiritually born or physically die accordingly-consequently, in an unprecedented, but not supernatural, event, that has been predicted as mankind’s judgment day; doomsday for the, closed-minded, failures, who cannot change, in the necessary way, to live, convivially-eternally-consensually, like gods, and ascension for the fortunate, flexi-minded, family who, being holy-helpful, beloved lovers, in our attitude to others and the Other, can.



Enlightenment, as distinct from its preliminary preparations, is a family matter rather than an individual experience to be achieved-enjoyed on one’s, isolated, own, as most gurus-shamans, endorsed in that, superordinate, role by, simple-minded, devotees-disciples, claim, self-righteously but fallaciously, they have; on some isolated mountain top or in some secluded-monastic cell, wilderness or cave. With its consequences, enlightenment, gnosis, illumination, spiritual birth, buddhahood and/or self-realisation, which is, like the bard’s sweet-smelling rose, the same by any name, is the sole reason for and purpose of life on earth, and means knowing the natural relationship(s) of the heavenly regime so as to live, consciously-conscientiously, accordingly, relating-communicating mentally with one’s whole context and audio-visually-bodily with one’s particular, co-textual, peers; who also recognise they are constituent parts of universal, everliving, She. Enlightened understanding means that the man-on-earth is, enjoyably-blissfully, aware of being used for her knowing and/or doing by a more inclusive being and/or accommodating god; as his, enlightened, earthly, partner(s) also know she is/they are. I am a man on earth but it is also true to say that, all together, we are a god in Heaven, making ourselves self-consciously incarnate in head-body partnership, on earth although a lot of non-believers, don’t, at least yet, know what this proposition-hypothesis, which is both unprovable and undisprovable, scientifically-objectively, as distinct from subjectively-experientially, means; in terms of personal power and obligation to do good, for fun, for free and for the common, family, good; enjoyably and gratuitously.



Our self-and-else context is our, complementary, opposite, or reflected image, in all ways such as part-whole, junior-senior, faster-slower, active-passive, inner-outer, extroverted-introverted, yang-yin, self-system, subjective-objective and male-female. She is the, potentially compatible, Other, the Different, the Opposite and/or the Fairy Godmother. With her we are meant to link ourselves, symbiotically, so as to get the best, along with her, of both her inside and her outside worlds, by, true, love and understanding; as the kali yuga ends as it is now ending, in violence, intimidation, chaos and confusion, for the new age to arise, like a phoenix from the ashes, and She will interact autonomously as distinct from automatically with us as, like-minded but uniquely embodied, peers. Kerash-Zoom!



As history, She repeats herself until we, as a species, learn the lesson needed for knowing how to move on to higher ground, and the time and place for this, final-archetypal, graduation, is at last here and now. Good-willed anarchy, which entails voluntary obedience to God’s golden rule of universal love, is beyond the mental-physical capacity of self-righteous hypocrites, who must now, as a logical imperative, be turfed-booted out, in the classical act of ethnic cleansing and expulsion, as harmful failures from the graduation class.


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  • Arachne






Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27083 1 day, 12 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 "From the Dawn of Time we came, moving silently down through the centuries, living many secret lives, struggling to reach the Time of the Gathering, when the few who remain will battle to the last. No one has ever known we were among you, until now".









You Are Not In Kansas Anymore YANIKA



  • Chaska108







Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27086 1 day, 11 hours ago - March 3rd, 2011 Isnt the self-righteous hypocrites the ones that have lost there path, wisdom and are an expression of trying to find his wisdom again?

Is the one that dosnt know not partly equal innocence?




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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27259 10 hours, 4 minutes ago - March 4th, 2011 Arachne wrote:
. . . No tbs; the ptb have one immense foreboding, namely, that the PTB should exist. IT ALONE alone presents any danger, apart from planetary annihilation and self-destruction; to their agendas and hierarchical power structures.

The PTB does exist and functions in parallel to the ptb. The former knows the latter, whilst the latter suspects and fears the former.

This is all we are prepared to say at this nexus point in the warpzone.

Phoenix-Arachne


And you say this:

Allow us to clarify something here; ALL Human Incarnates; no matter what 'side they are on' and no matter what 'roles' they are playing in this unfoldment of a new history - are diveine shards of the creator-creation monad and have come here to allow a maximised polarisation 'game' to unfold.

All humans, without exceptions, are witnesses for the accelerated evolvement of the cosmic payground in universal intelligence.

This is all we shall say on this for now.


Hi Arachne!

1- Who/what are/is PTB in contradistinction to ptb?

2-Does "ptb" refer to human incarnates of the STS persuasion? If so why would they fear PTB if they simply are expressing the STS aspect of duality in order to create the friction necessary for growth? (This particular idea of dark-side [possible] PTB service is not mine. It was expressed in some Hidden Hand material I read that indicated what a huge sacrifice was being made by them to play the Dark Hats so humanity could evolve.)

3-Alternatively, does "ptb" refer to something OUTSIDE humanity -- outside divine shards -- and is this why ptb fears PTB?

Obviously the huge assumption being made here is that PTB is First Cause and First Cause is the precipitate creator of the Divine shards. So the only way ptb can be not divine shards is if they are a secondary creation to the original -- something impermanent rather than eternal.

You certainly create the need for reflection. Thank you.

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#27265 9 hours, 16 minutes ago - March 4th, 2011 Just a note to for people to remember when you read any information to come from your inner truth and your own power base...

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#27282 7 hours, 20 minutes ago - March 4th, 2011 unplugged wrote:
Arachne wrote:
. . . No tbs; the ptb have one immense foreboding, namely, that the PTB should exist. IT ALONE alone presents any danger, apart from planetary annihilation and self-destruction; to their agendas and hierarchical power structures.

The PTB does exist and functions in parallel to the ptb. The former knows the latter, whilst the latter suspects and fears the former.

This is all we are prepared to say at this nexus point in the warpzone.

Phoenix-Arachne


And you say this:

Allow us to clarify something here; ALL Human Incarnates; no matter what 'side they are on' and no matter what 'roles' they are playing in this unfoldment of a new history - are divine shards of the creator-creation monad and have come here to allow a maximised polarisation 'game' to unfold.

All humans, without exceptions, are witnesses for the accelerated evolvement of the cosmic payground in universal intelligence.

This is all we shall say on this for now.


Hi Arachne!

1- Who/what are/is PTB in contradistinction to ptb?

2-Does "ptb" refer to human incarnates of the STS persuasion? If so why would they fear PTB if they simply are expressing the STS aspect of duality in order to create the friction necessary for growth? (This particular idea of dark-side [possible] PTB service is not mine. It was expressed in some Hidden Hand material I read that indicated what a huge sacrifice was being made by them to play the Dark Hats so humanity could evolve.)

3-Alternatively, does "ptb" refer to something OUTSIDE humanity -- outside divine shards -- and is this why ptb fears PTB?

Obviously the huge assumption being made here is that PTB is First Cause and First Cause is the precipitate creator of the Divine shards. So the only way ptb can be not divine shards is if they are a secondary creation to the original -- something impermanent rather than eternal.

You certainly create the need for reflection. Thank you.



Very meaningful and intelligent questions unplugged, thank you!

The situation is as you have implied in your second paragraph in #3; with the caveat, that the ptb are as much part of the 'shards of the creator' as are the PTB.

Then the distinction between the two 'factions' of the ptb and the PTB becomes a function of remembrance as to the, let's say 'encompassing and deeper agendas' BEYOND the duality of the 'us versus them' under whatever auspices applied.

So you will find the remembrance of the 'deeper nature of reality' in BOTH, the ptb and the PTB and BOTH 'factions' will in parallel attempt to implement THEIR version of what THEIR role in the 'greater agenda' would represent - relative to their information collected and understanding and interpretation of that data base.

The major distinction of the ptb an the PTB; both remaining obscured from any significant public exposure; then is the manner of how their parallel agendas become implemented on whatever level.

The ptb have a power base of unlimited access to whatever information is available from the records of the planetary evolvement of this human civilisation. Fiscal and privacy restrictions do not apply and the socio-economic structures of national- and political boundaries are nonexistant.
Because of this the ptb are globally interconnected in a data web of a hierarchical access structure.
However because of this 'pyramidal graduation', many levels of the ptb are 'underinformed', despite their access to the 'matrix' of the 'elitisms'. Albeit this becomes a relative positioning within the data web built on the maximised technological nous available to the ptb.

The PTB do not have such access and are NOT connected in a technological web, except that available to the populus at large; say the opportunity to engage in public forums such as Facebook, Twitter, Avalon, Camelot, ATS or GLP and open access groups on the internet.

The PTB have however access to the same data base of the ptb in terms of the 'Original Program' , the so termed 'masterplan of the Creator'.

Therefore the selfsame distinction between the ptb and the PTB will crystallize, or have the potential to crystallize, in a different interpretation or decoding of the 'master codes'.

Both the ptb and the PTB cannot be 'mind manipulated' by the external evolvements of the environmental factors.
This is a consequence of having decoded the original codes of the creation, which induces the effecual sealing of the 'individuated' minds of both in a sense of the collective.

The ptb however interprets the 'collective' as elitisms of exclusivity; whilst the PTB interprets the collective as all encompassing and as 'all inclusive'.

Your labels of STS and STO are so really the same thing; but become implemented in this distinction.

The statements of 'Hidden Hand' {HH} and other 'Elite Insiders' are fundamentally correct; though HH and co are and remain compromised by the interpretation of the core data as instructed by the 'pyramidal hierarchies'.

The 'dark factions of the ptb' so are indeed aware of 'playing a decisive part' in the acceleration of the terran civilisation into its galactic counterpart; but they differ; because of their pyramidal power structure and its subsequent information classification, in the implementation of their own agendas.

Therefore then the archetyped divisons into the 'clans' of the Yellow Dragons and the Red Dragons; the so termed 'Inner Earth' Agarthians and the 'Outer Earth' Shamaballians in the 'Brotherhood of the Snake' and known under many other labels such as Pharisee-Sadducee and the White Brotherhood of the Light of Lucifera (Black Madonna) and the Dark Brotherhood of the Light of Lucifer and 'Dark Hats' and 'White Hats' and such.

The ptb are connected in the groupmind sense by technology in the information matrix; whilst the PTB are connected in a 'common mind' independent of such a technology.

The ptb however KNOW of the reality of the PTB as a potential form of their own 'group-consciousness' based on the same original data base as their own; and this is why they 'fear' the development of such a 'group consciousness of the alternative nous and sophia'.

Perhaps we should state here; that this 'fear' of the ptb is a lower, say more human and underevolved expression of emotional energy; which is easily surpassed and processed by anyone in the ptb; who would care to remember the basis of their agendas.

As HH said; the 'deeper thought' of the ptb knows its role very well and would have 'no fear' about any of the 'outcomes' of the 'masterplan' and 'gameplay' of the creator-creation monad.

We shall end here and invite you to further delve into this, if you are interested and should we not have answered your queries to your satisfaction.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27287 5 hours, 58 minutes ago - March 4th, 2011




The ptb Golem

How do we live
In this cesspool of necrotic
Apathy?
The stench burning
Like the offering
Of sacrificial hearts,
Cut open and laid bare
On these towers of despair.


Murders and crucifixions
Go on every second
Under the shroud of Freedom
Its victims hide
From the impending guillotine
Of self pride.

Sacrificial lambs
To these heartless golems,
The dark hammer
Beating in their chest,
Of their unrelenting blood quest.

It must be a simulation
This cannot be real…
What corpses animate to
Decapitate, eviscerate, annihilate
Living flesh,
In so many ways of
Death?

It is they who cannot reflect
The image of truth in the Mirror of life
Its light they cannot detect.
The black veil of rigor mortis
Is what they see
Instead of their own humanity.



Yes dear Unplugged, saying #13 is one of the major keys to 'true gnosis'.
With 'true gnosis' I mean 'gnosis in thought' and not 'gnosis (just) in name'.

The 'gnostics', either the 'dispersing heretic groups' post the 'Destruction of Jerusalem' under Titus on August 4th, 70 AD or what today is often called Neoplatonic gnosticism and derivatives; have all become 'religionized', whilst continuing to carry the 'true seed' of the 'Master's Core Revelation'.

So you will NOT find the 'true gnostic thought' or 'insight' on websites, wikipedia or the libraries of gnostic literature.

Saying #13 is indeed a key to unlock the 'secrets'.

There are some 'hidden sayings', which have not been published anywhere yet and some of these accentuate #13:

Saying#115:
Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your self~image will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."


Saying#116:
Jesus said to the apostles: "If the people come up to you in numbers, saying, tell us your secrets, tell us your secrets; then reply to them, that you cannot do so for reason of the secrecy. Tell them, that should they know, they would become insane.
But if some persist and ask you privately; then share the secrets with them in measure of their willingness to become insane in the world."


Unplugged, you may see here, how saying#13 relates the 'secrecy' to the 'thinking gnosis'.
Unless you 'mind blend' (compare the Vulcan Spock of Star Trek) with the 'author of the sayings'; there will be no way for the 'ordinary' human perception to understand those selfsame sayings.

The human groupmind has evolved in the last 30,000 years from being almost completely integrated with nature to today, where the separation of the human mind from itself and its experienced environment has become a collective 'groupmind of insanity'.

But, and if your attraction to the 'Master's Handbook' is genuine and not some intellectual pretense; then it will be precisely this 'mad human groupmind', which will allow you to 'eat the lion of truth' and so to become enabled to firstly absorb the 'world's madness' and then secondly to reflect a 'processed insanity' as 'The Master's Dispensation' (or the 'Dispensation of the Logos') back into the world as a 'Light shining in the darkness in the wisdom of the Father'.

If you truly have taken the Gospel of Thomas to heart, then you will understand the above.

Saying #13:

Jesus said to his disciples, 'Compare me with someone, and tell me whom I am like.'
Simon Peter said to him, 'You are like a just angel.'

Matthew said to him, 'You are like a wise philosopher.'

Thomas said to him, 'Teacher, my mouth is utterly unable to say whom you are like.'

Jesus said, 'I am not your teacher. You have become intoxicated because you have drunk from the bubbling spring that I have tended.'

And he took Thomas and withdrew, and told him three things.

When Thomas came back to his friends, they asked him, 'What did Jesus tell you?'

Thomas said to them, 'If I tell you even one of the things he told me, you will pick up rocks and stone me.

Then fire will come forth from the rocks and devour you.'



Consider the Aramaic and Hebrew cultures and their customs for a start; for what reason did people get stoned; as punishment for adultery and for blasphemy!

So the secrets are likely to involve taboos of sexuality and the sacredness of the monotheistic deity.

Then there are three secrets, which ought to be connected, converging in a single statement of truth.

Finally, when Jesus talks about the Father, he always places the Father within himself and himself within the Father, and he promises the 'Holy Ghost' as part of himself and the Father to help the disciples and the world, after he had returned to the Father.

So the 'Holy Ghost' is like the 'Son' to Jesus and the 'Grandson' to the Father.

What he knew, but didn't make clear at the time, except in the secrets, was the connection of the Mother to the Daughter to the Granddaughter.


Saying #114:
Simon Peter said to them, 'Let Mary leave us, because women are not worthy of life.'

Jesus said, 'Behold, I shall guide her so as to make her male, that she too may become a living spirit like you men.

For every woman who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven.'



Saying #55:
Jesus said, 'Whoever does not hate father and mother cannot be my disciple, and whoever does not hate brothers and sisters, and bear the cross as I do, will not be worthy of me.'



Matthew.24.28:
"For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together."


Saying #56:
Jesus said, 'Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass is worth more than the world.'


Saying #77:
A woman in the crowd said to him, 'Blessed are the womb that bore you and the breasts that fed you.'

He said to her, 'Blessed are those who have heard the word of the Father and have truly kept it.
For the time will come when you will say, 'Blessed are the womb that has not conceived and the breasts that have not produced milk.''


Saying #78:
Jesus said, 'Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body is worth more than the world.'


Saying #99:
Jesus said, 'Whoever does not hate father and mother as I do cannot be my disciple, and whoever does not love father and mother as I do cannot be my disciple.

For my mother...{brought me forth in falsehood}, but my true mother gave me life.'


Saying #103:
Jesus said, 'Whoever recognizes father and mother will be called the child of a whore.'


Saying #104:
Jesus said, 'When you make the two into one, you will become children of humanity, and when you say, 'Mountain move!' it will move.'


Saying #39:
Jesus said, 'The Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys to knowledge and have
hidden them. They have not entered, nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.

As for you, be as clever as snakes and as innocent as doves.'


Saying #100:
Jesus said, 'Woe to the Pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the food trough of cows: the dog neither eats nor lets the cows eat.'


Saying #43:
His disciples said to him, 'Who are you to say these things to us?'

Jesus said, 'You do not know who I am from what I say to you.

Instead you have become like the Jews: either they love the tree but hate its fruit, or they love the fruit but hate the tree.'





So it is relatively easy to deduce, what the three secrets are.

In a patriarchial and male dominated society, the authority of the law rests within the masculine hierarchies and that is why the female principle as conveyor of the law, the word of the logos, became seemingly ignored by Jesus in hisher sayings.

But heshe told Thomas in a blunt way, that the ultimate reality is completely bisexual, with male and female aspects in a harmonious relationship of complementarity and synchronicity.

Knowing the Father also to be the Mother in a FatherMother Creator-Creation duality; the Son is also the Daughter as the firstborn offspring, the first cosmogenetic reproduction of that duality.

The GrandSon is called the 'He-Holy Ghost' and the GrandDaughter is the 'She-Holy Spirit' as the offspring of the offspring in three necessary generations for the cosmogenetic 'Family of God'.

A trinity of generations is required to reflect the grandparents in the grandchildren via the matrix
definitions for the permutations of the sexual chromosomes.

As long as there is only the one prototypical universe of the FatherMother; there just cannot be any Grandchildren - the Sons and Daughters are running around on a planet called Earth, having forgotten who they are and where they came from and for what purpose they came to be where they are.

So they waste their time in the pursuit of nebulous ambitions and worldly successes.

They abuse and kill each other, thinking of themselves as time limited biochemical machines in the
pursuit of pleasure and mass-sense gratification; Deus ex machina , as the poet would say.

They cannot even perceive, that they might be the Sons and Daughters of the FatherMother, on a
mission of the 'UniVerse' as a 'MonoSong' to give birth to 'Baby Universes' in full recognisance of their own cosmogenetic inheritances.


Saying #3:
Jesus said, 'If your leaders say to you, 'Behold, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds in the sky will get there before you.
If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will get there before you.

'Rather, the kingdom is inside you and outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and will understand that you are children of the living Father.
But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and embody poverty.'




They give birth to babies alright; but to them the babies become just miniature versions of themselves; destined to the same pains, labour and sufferings, with a little hedonism, pleasure seeking and sense gratification thrown into the pot of misery, masquerading as a human life.


Saying #22:
Jesus saw some babies nursing.

He said to his disciples, 'These nursing babies are like those who enter the kingdom.'

They said to him, 'Then shall we enter the kingdom as babies?'

Jesus said to them,'When you make the two into one, when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male and the female will not be female, when you make eyes replacing an eye, a hand replacing a hand, a foot replacing a foot, and an image replacing an image, then you will enter the kingdom.'




That is the meaning of the 'Heavenly Wedding' of the 'Lamb' to the New Jerusalem.

As soon as one, the first of many BrotherSons finds a bride amongst the many SisterDaughters; as soon will the FatherMother be blessed with hisher first GrandChild in the GrandSonDaughter.


But the DaughterSons must know what they are doing, otherwise it doesn't count!

Either they 'bloody-well' know who they are or they, by their very own blood, 'bloody-well' don't!

It is not enough in pretending to be spiritual or to be religious or to love God and Jesus or to follow the Buddha or the swami guru or to be a faithful servant of Allah and to the Prophet or to be with Krishna or the Baba or the Big Momma, the hooded Lama or anyone at all.


To suffer with the Brahman of the Absolute Nirvana or to be faithful to the Ayatollah and the Imam in their waiting for the 12th messiah of the Madhi in the final apocalypse of the jihad is not without significance, but it serves the purpose of feeding the consciousness of subentities within the superego.

Those subentities reside as 'Memes' or thought constructions in the minds and as gene expressions within sex chromosomes of stem cells within the bodies of the spiritual seekers of the enlightenment.

Why not feed one's image of the Id of the superego itself; thinking bigger in the hierarchy of the 'Man in the Moon' or the Bahauallah or Ahura Mazda or the Sungod or the 'Big Goat behind the Old Oaken Tree' in the sexy forest on Walpurgisnacht on April 30th and the wiccan festivals.

And a man must do what a man must do and a woman must be what a woman is, if just the human lawmakers could understand what this is and what that means.

A man must follow in the creator's footsteps as 'his son' and a woman must follow 'her mother' as a creation, becoming herself a 'monosong'-wife for her 'composer'-husband as an universe's daughter."

That is why this universal wedding is so important.

It will swallow up the past in the present in bringing everything 'without' the wedded couple 'within' the matrimonial dragonomy of the SheHe and the HeShe. And this is not the blending of separated individuations, but he 'marrying' of yourself to your own shadow. Only AS a starhumanised HeShe or Shehe can you form 'relationships' with the 'other' mirror image and as Jesus says, there is NO marriage in the kingdom of the father, the children of the resurrection.

All HeShes and SheHes are by nature polyamorous; able to 'love' more than one such 'other'; with the choices of course, to 'favour' certain 'partners' in particular ways, if so desired.
But the Natural Law is polyamory.

Matthew 22:30:
30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.


TRUE COSMIC LOVE CANNOT BE POSSESSIVE - of anything, unplugged you are!






It also swallows a projected future as the image of the past in a present moment of 'Now-Time'.

The outside world holographically enfolds itself within a modular duality of bride and bridegroom.

This might be hard to understand, but all of omniscience talks of it in mathematical terms and the gnostic texts, like those of Nag Hammadi, are full of it in metaphorical esoteric language.

So what did Jesus say to Thomas, indicating the secrets of the dragonomy?"


"He simply said; pointing at himself, then Thomas, then John of Zebedee and then Mary Magdalene, both of whom were standing near Simon Peter a little distance away at their fireplace:


"I am you, you are him and he is her!"


This is the secret; what appears separated in one form of space and time can yet be together in another form of spacetime.

That is the story of the Devil's Egg, perhaps 4000 years old and that is the story of the Universal Matrix of Light and that is the holographic nature of the 12-dimensional omnispace for the matrix of spacetime to
materially express itself in energy.


PS.: One important psychological consideration any 'true gnostic' in the 21st century should know is this:

The world suffers a humungus inferiority complex in terms of the individual mind being embedded in a human group mind (Teilhard de Chardin's Noosphere, Dawkins' memes and Sheldrakes' morphogeneticism etc.).

No one is 'MORE' (or better or smarter or more gnostic or label it yourself) than anybody else.
BUT no one is 'LESS' than anyone else either.

But the world judges and compares and graduates one another in a competition of 'survival of the better' and in its 'judging of the inferior by the superior'; it cannot but develop this complex of inferiority.

Then a 'true master comes along' and says:

Saying#77:
Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the All. From me did the the All come forth and unto me did the All extend...."



A world built on self-judgement cannot but consider the above utterances as blatant blasphemy, pathological insanity, megalomania or as 'delusions of grandeur'.
Imagine yourself standing on a soapbox in the middle of a park in New York and proclaiming this; what do you think would happen to you?

Then the 'worldly thinkers' would say: 'He has got a superiority complex'; not understanding that it is their inferiority complex, which disallows them to become LIKE the one who not only has no 'mental complexes at all', but openly says to anyone asking, that HE is just like everybody else in the kingdom of the father.
The difference is simply, that he is not asleep anymore and has remembered his origins.
This then is described in the sayings and related dispensations.

And yet, the 'true gnostic' knows what Jesus meant and also knows that Jesus was no supernatural Godman; was no historical invention; was no phantom (yes some 'gnostics' are off by proverbial miles); fulfilled the archetype of being born by cosmic motherhood (virgin birth in archetype NOT biological implementation); resurrected in 'knowing what to do when out of the body' and such things.

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"This most beautiful system [The Universe] could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being." - Sir Isaac Newton

"No being exists or can exist which is not related to space in some way. God is everywhere, created minds are somewhere, and body is in the space that it occupies; and whatever is neither everywhere nor anywhere does not exist. And hence it follows that space is an effect arising from the first existence of being, because when any being is postulated, space is postulated." - Sir Isaac Newton

"A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "Universe", a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest — a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security." - Albert Einstein

Thank you serenesam for those marvellous quotes from the Logos.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27318 5 hours, 35 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 right....so basically,what's gonna happen,as it is now seen then-yes?






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#27322 4 hours, 25 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Lita wrote:
Just a note to for people to remember when you read any information to come from your inner truth and your own power base...


Second that, it is like stop playing the games as you once put it on another issue.
And play the real game and truth, yourself.

That it what this is really about.

It is all inversed, you dont get spiritual growth in new rules, perspectives.

But rather not playing along those rules of the game.

Becourse the game is oppressive from having our own game.

Has always been, as examples the games we have in our society.

Follow the status, being perfect, have the fashion, follow an image. etc.

Which have nothing to do with yourself, but rather an excuses for facing the reality that

this is not suppose to be like this.

There is no hell except if we have bought into all existing games.

There is no judgment, karma except what we give ourself.

Rules and games are parts of eachother.

Give yourself the real values, dignity

Stop playing the games!!!

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#27344 2 hours, 42 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Tbonyandsteak wrote:
Stop playing the games!!!


Thank you, Tbony. I agree yet see this a bit differently. For me it seems the game stops instantly -- once understood. Hence my free-will search for the noumena informing phenomena and my interest in this thread.

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#27346 2 hours, 36 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Agree, Unplugged.

It was just a side note to what really matters.







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#27347 2 hours, 34 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Thank you, Arachne, for your in-depth responses to my queries. You have compressed encyclopedic volumes into a few posts. Much of what you write is both "known" and "unknown" to me. I shall respond after a time of reflection.

Are you by any chance familiar with The Revelatorium. If so, what is your thought about it?

www.revelatorium.com/

As a numerologist I found it very interesting. There are chapters in there that, like your posts, are over my current threshold of knowledge and understanding though I appreciate the challenge of inquiry. Also let me state clearly I don't agree with everything in the Revelatorium any more than I agree with everything wherever found -- regardless of source. That is one way of staying sane in an insane world.

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#27348 2 hours, 31 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 hey-you wouldn't happen to know a guy who calls himself gar ,would you?
so what's goin on-with this invisible sun....
is it just me,or can you feel something big....
i think if you know something then talk...but try to break it down into the way normal uneducated folk talk,please?







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#27349 2 hours, 28 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 let's have a quick vote
i say we go get some food'n'stuff
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#27354 1 hour, 50 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Still puzzles about this

Saying#115:
Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your self~image will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."

Still reminds me of description of a trauma, which is about avoiding facing the reality of the trauma.

Also reminds me of

Quote Vernon Howard:
"Human sickness is so severe,
that few can bare to look at it...
But those who do, will become well."

Will become well be course then they are honest to them selfs






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#27359 1 hour, 25 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 unplugged wrote:
Thank you, Arachne, for your in-depth responses to my queries. You have compressed encyclopedic volumes into a few posts. Much of what you write is both "known" and "unknown" to me. I shall respond after a time of reflection.

Are you by any chance familiar with The Revelatorium. If so, what is your thought about it?

www.revelatorium.com/

As a numerologist I found it very interesting. There are chapters in there that, like your posts, are over my current threshold of knowledge and understanding though I appreciate the challenge of inquiry. Also let me state clearly I don't agree with everything in the Revelatorium any more than I agree with everything wherever found -- regardless of source. That is one way of staying sane in an insane world.


Indeed unplugged; most of what we write is known, although to varying degrees.
There are some extensions of the present data base, including that of the ptb; but this relates more to decoding and a more encompassing interpretation of existing information, than really new data.

'The Revelatorium' represents one of many many attempts by wisdom seekers to present the cosmology of the wisdom seeker.
It is like the multitude of 'channelers' and 'new age prophets' appearing like mushrooms in the forest following a drenching thunderstorm.

Our analysis has shown, that your reference above is rather general, albeit based on a sound basic understanding of the archetypology as say embodied in the 'sacred geometry'.
It is however insufficient to allow a deep penetration into the 'Gnosis of the Logos', due to its peripheral application of the omni-science.

We would recommend this material for acolytes in the gnosis however (hint to arctourist).

Also, there are major flaws in this material; say when dimensions, hyperphysics and scriptural encodings (like say the number 666) are discussed.
The basic cosmogony about the 'Rebellion of Lucifer' is also grossly misleading and has caused much consternation and misinterpretation more in league with the 'bible students/bashers', then the alternative 'New Age' approach to the subject matter.


Your study and interest in numerology is to be commended as are the 'astrologers' on this and other sites.

Astroanalysis represents the elder of the natural sciences and as many know, modern astronomy was born from it, just as the 'father of chemistry' is Newtonian- and earlier Alchemy.

We adhere to Pythagorean Numerology and extend the ciphers in rootreduction to 55=5 5=10 in the ennead. In this system the 'life pyramids' then are given in the 9-tier in the numbers of the 'life'; the 'balance' and the 'comprehension'.

We have found that a basic numerological analysis, followed by a detailed natal chart construction often proves fruitful in the general crystallization of the nativity of the enquirer.



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hey-you wouldn't happen to know a guy who calls himself gar ,would you?
so what's goin on-with this invisible sun....
is it just me,or can you feel something big....
i think if you know something then talk...but try to break it down into the way normal uneducated folk talk,please?


We would have to make enquiries about character labelings like 'Gar', arctourist. There would be a number of those names in the data base and we do not recall any specifics. But should you tell us a little about 'gar', we would certainly be able to extend your contexts, regarding this name.

You are feeling the Piscean new Moon dear arctourist.
All New Moons in 2011 carry tremenodous energy potential since the Lunar Eclipse of December 21st, 2010 and the following Solar Eclipse of New Moon, January 4th, 2011 in Capricorn.

You and many humans are experiencing the Pisces New Moon of 2011; which is supercharged in a reconfiguration of the Saros DragonNode as the new ruler of Libra, replacing Venus.
Iow, the Full Moon rulership of Cancer as the 4th standard sector in the Mother's Family' has become partnered in the 7th standard house of the partnerships in the New Moon rulership of Libra and representative for the Head or North of the DragonNode and the Tail or South of the DragonNode in the ecliptic saros cycle.


This unplugged, is NEW DATA, you will not find anyoplace else in the ptb data base, as it is partial to the PTB.

We thank you both for your enquiries unplugged and arctourist.

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#27366 18 hours, 10 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 gar...well he was a real nice guy...gnostic guy...full of all kinds of deep knowledge...talked about the music of the spheres'n'stuff...
seems like he was australian,but i don't know
y'all just kinda reminded me of him
ah,that moon...yeah...anyways...
which galactic federation do we wanna join,is my question..and how many are there...and how are they different....




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Lol, it seems you have finished playing 'The Games', dear tbs. We were a little unsure, if you displayed a kind of annoyance with our information sharing; therefore we did not like to add to your apparent discomforts of the mind.

Also, your post intersected the question of unplugged, so we could not reply to you in the order of the time markers.

tbs said:
Still puzzles about this

Saying#115:
Jesus said, "You can define yourself any way you wish; but if you do not eat the lion of truth, then your self~image will not be able to shine in the wisdom of the father and you will mirror the darkness in the world back to yourself and you will be that darkness."

Still reminds me of description of a trauma, which is about avoiding facing the reality of the trauma.

Also reminds me of

Quote Vernon Howard:
"Human sickness is so severe,
that few can bare to look at it...
But those who do, will become well."

Will become well be course then they are honest to them selfs



This has been a rather intelligent and pertinent reply by you tbs.

This " Human Sickness" is the great challenge of discernment - real discernment, which is no longer biased by individuated fears and distrusts about the unknown and the sometimes 'weird' and unfamiliar.

In other words, instead of fighting the 'evil serpents' and the 'demons from hell' with the 'Swords of the Light Warriors'; go and absorb them as the thoughtforms they are; eat them and make them your pets as ownership and as the creator of YOUR OWN HELL and as the master of It.

Can you do this; or will you continue to look for the evil within as the evil without?

Only you will be able to answer this.

And dear tbs; it's Vernon Howard sharing his wisdom here; not us. But we indeed agree with Vernon.

Thank you tbs, for your excellent reply.

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#27376 17 hours, 35 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Escuse me Arachne, this is heavy stuff, so I need to know what kind of game we are in

But it seems to I have understood it right, thank you.




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Escuse me Arachne, this is heavy stuff, so I need to know what kind of game we are in

But it seems to I have understood it right, thank you.


Tbony, the game you are in, is the one you agreed to play before incarnating here on Mother Gaia.

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#27383 16 hours, 59 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Arachne
"Tbony, the game you are in, is the one you agreed to play before incarnating here on Mother Gaia."
Yeah, but we dont know that

So what I suspecting your saying
Is our purposes to recognize the living God then?
That we indeed are living being in our spirit, not DNA?




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#27387 16 hours, 32 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Tbony,

The Brain is the Mother to the Father; is the Matter to the Spirit; is the Egg to the Chicken is the RNA to the DNA and is the Physical Creation to the Metaphysical Creator.

They are irextricably connected in the Mind-Body duality and cannot exist independently of each other.
The fatherly forethought (or spirit) can be HIS own father; but requires a (antispiritual) motherly afterthought to birth HIMSELF physically=antispiritually.
The motherly afterthought (or antispirit) can be HER own mother; but requires a (spiritual) fatherly forethought to birth HERSELF mataphysically=spiritually.
The Rooster EXISTS spiritually before he hatches physically from the physical egg and the Ovum EXISTS physically before the release of the chicken spiritualises the encompassment (Eve out of Adam as a 'rib').

The 'Living Brain' is Schroedinger's Cat as a collapsed wave, functioning as a activated particle.
The 'Dead Brain' is Schroedinger's Cat as a collapsed particle, functioning as a activated wave.

Now substitute Wave with Mind and Particle with Body and you have solved the quantum mystery, both in the terms of material physics and immaterial metaphysics.
When a particular 'material vessel of the spirit-matter' becomes damaged, too old or deceased; then the encompassing matter (read the physical universe as a matter waveform) will UNCOLLAPSE the hitherto COLLAPSED Schroedinger cat ) and the 'Mind' will 'escape' from the brain (or the cells or all of the other consciousness carriers defined in the hydrogen atom's polarisations etc).

Seth is an excellent 'channel'; indeed all so termed gods and demons are created by and through the 'mind of the consciousness carriers', archetyped by 'man'.
It is every 'man' for himherself in these 'last days' before the universe itself will transform its spacetime matrix.
Every 'manwoman' has the 'Job' of composition; writing a Story for the 'Unity of the Creator-Creation Duality'.
The duality, which caused the 'split' between mind and body and between metaphysics and physics and between matter and spirit is itself in expectation of recombination.
But ONLY the storytellers within space and time can fulfil the reunion.
The storytellers without space and time, inclusive all the dead alive ones (collapsed particular kittens) DEPEND on the storytellers within to USE their 'brainy imprisonments' to REHARMONISE the original separation.

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#27389 16 hours, 24 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 You amazes me arachne
All the information you possesses and are able to transfer in that short of time.

What is the story about yourself?




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#27390 16 hours, 13 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 arctourist wrote:
gar...well he was a real nice guy...gnostic guy...full of all kinds of deep knowledge...talked about the music of the spheres'n'stuff...
seems like he was australian,but i don't know
y'all just kinda reminded me of him
ah,that moon...yeah...anyways...
which galactic federation do we wanna join,is my question..and how many are there...and how are they different....


They ALL are 50-50 good info and 50 disinfo ptb, NOT to be totally dismissed but definitely NOT to be trusted either. Use your discernment here, as all 'channeled' information is filtered through the 3-D mind and so colored with the persona and in many cases inaccuracies. The times we are currently experiencing are similar to a data overload, and so one must carefully weigh the validity of any and all information. There is much BS out there to sort through arctourist.

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#27391 16 hours, 9 minutes ago - March 5th, 2011 Tbonyandsteak wrote:
You amazes me arachne
All the information you possesses and are able to transfer in that short of time.

What is the story about yourself?


The Intro is Our story and WE are the PTB guided by the Logos as Many in One and One in Many.

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arctourist wrote:
gar...well he was a real nice guy...gnostic guy...full of all kinds of deep knowledge...talked about the music of the spheres'n'stuff...
seems like he was australian,but i don't know
y'all just kinda reminded me of him
ah,that moon...yeah...anyways...
which galactic federation do we wanna join,is my question..and how many are there...and how are they different....


They ALL are 50-50 good info and 50 disinfo ptb, NOT to be totally dismissed but definitely NOT to be trusted either. Use your discernment here, as all 'channeled' information is filtered through the 3-D mind and so colored with the persona and in many cases inaccuracies. The times we are currently experiencing are similar to a data overload, and so one must carefully weigh the validity of any and all information. There is much BS out there to sort through arctourist.

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Am I right in that the most channeled BS is actually truth but is over interpretations,
Like the theme they channel is on the spot, but the implications of is BS.

So they fill the channel information with popular info.
The first channel I heard was the Pleadians which should come and help us in the 4th density and they really was our relatives the Annunaki'es.
If it where interpreted sounded like they would come and obsessed the people.
All BS offcourse,
But they were on the spot, that people would become more spiritual minded and aware




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#27395 1 day, 9 hours ago - March 5th, 2011 maitreya's the one!
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#27409 1 day, 7 hours ago - March 5th, 2011 Re Revelatorium Arachne: Our analysis has shown, that your reference above is rather general, albeit based on a sound basic understanding of the archetypology as say embodied in the 'sacred geometry'.It is however insufficient to allow a deep penetration into the 'Gnosis of the Logos', due to its peripheral application of the omni-science.


Agreed!

...We adhere to Pythagorean Numerology and extend the ciphers in root reduction to 55=5 5=10 in the ennead. In this system the 'life pyramids' then are given in the 9-tier in the numbers of the 'life'; the 'balance' and the 'comprehension'.


The only pyramids I use are those created within the cycles of date of birth, with no reduction of the master numbers 11, 22. In all other cases reductions are to the single digit cardinal numbers 1-9.

...Also, there are major flaws in this material; say when dimensions, hyperphysics and scriptural encodings (like say the number 666) are discussed. The basic cosmogony about the 'Rebellion of Lucifer' is also grossly misleading and has caused much consternation and misinterpretation more in league with the 'bible students/bashers', then the alternative 'New Age' approach to the subject matter.


Funny you should single this out. It was precisely this area that made me question this material. It served its purpose admirably as my exploration of the work subsequent to the 666 and Luciferian rebellian material was "Yes, well hmm . . ."

. . . You and many humans are experiencing the Pisces New Moon of 2011; which is supercharged in a reconfiguration of the Saros DragonNode as the new ruler of Libra, replacing Venus.
Iow, the Full Moon rulership of Cancer as the 4th standard sector in the Mother's Family' has become partnered in the 7th standard house of the partnerships in the New Moon rulership of Libra and representative for the Head or North of the DragonNode and the Tail or South of the DragonNode in the ecliptic saros cycle.

...This unplugged, is NEW DATA, you will not find anyoplace else in the ptb data base, as it is partial to the PTB.=


I can certainly agree that I have not heard this before.

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#27477 18 hours, 8 minutes ago - March 6th, 2011 Tbonyandsteak wrote:
Arachne wrote:
arctourist wrote:
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which galactic federation do we wanna join,is my question..and how many are there...and how are they different....


They ALL are 50-50 good info and 50 disinfo ptb, NOT to be totally dismissed but definitely NOT to be trusted either. Use your discernment here, as all 'channeled' information is filtered through the 3-D mind and so colored with the persona and in many cases inaccuracies. The times we are currently experiencing are similar to a data overload, and so one must carefully weigh the validity of any and all information. There is much BS out there to sort through arctourist.

Arachne


Am I right in that the most channeled BS is actually truth but is over interpretations,
Like the theme they channel is on the spot, but the implications of is BS.

So they fill the channel information with popular info.
The first channel I heard was the Pleadians which should come and help us in the 4th density and they really was our relatives the Annunaki'es.
If it where interpreted sounded like they would come and obsessed the people.
All BS offcourse,
But they were on the spot, that people would become more spiritual minded and aware


Indeed and an excellent conclusion drawn by you tbs in your discernments.

The 'channeled' messages from the 'ascended masters' and the 'abductees' and the 'contactees' should be analysed in their contexts.
The main messages are, in most cases, VERY general and uplifting, aimed at the 'goodness of the human heart' in its selfremembrance of being and representing a unique and undispensable part of the creator-creation monad.

Therefore and in this generality, the 'channelled data' is in full alignment with the 'masterplan' of the primal source beyond the concepts of the space-time-matter.

However this generality then mostly fails to present any details or depth for this 'all is fine as piece of peace of the creator' scenario. It is simply insufficient to 'know that you are God' and then to sit under the bodhi tree to meditate on the divinity of it all and the ascension into the bliss of the nirvana.

Similarly, it is utterly self-facetious to think that no learning or study is necessary and that all of this 'evil outside' world is to be severed from ones 'inner knowledge of this beingness'.
This is typified ptb control mechanics, which has, in our analysis, almost totally compromised the 'new age' and alternative movements .

The 'New Age' has transmutated itself into simply another opinionated 'religion' or paradigm of KNOWING what 'God' is, but utterly failing to realise the uniqueness of the 'Logos' required to redeem this selfsame 'God' from His exile in the wilderness of the 'Kingdom of the Father' without a 'Queendom of the Mother'.

The without is on equal footing with the within and the Body is in no manner inferior to the Spirit or vice versa.
Without the Heart the Mind is empty and without the Mind the Heart is not sentient.

As Albert Einstein said: "Religion without Science is Blind and Science without Religion is Lame."

Rather, the 'Feeling Heart' of the 'feelers of the divine' must harmonize with the 'Thinking Mind' of the 'thinkers on the divine' and to accomplish this the modus operandi can be reversed.

So the fostering of a 'Thinking Heart' and a 'Feeling Mind' will bring the peace of the Logos in rational and reasoned thinking, blended with the 'Love of the Cosmos' in Wisdom of the Feminine and the Nous of the Masculine.

The 'casting out of the devils' means checkmating the 'enemy within' not the valiant war against the demons trying to enter the wholy spaces from without.


The creator-creation monad, the cosmos itself; desires reconfiguration in manifesting not only a new planetary civilisation, but a new universe.

As the 'Word' has stated; 'this heaven and the one above and this earth and the earth below shall all pass away and be rolled up like a scroll - but my words shall not pass away and every iota of the scriptures will be fulfilled'.

See tbonysteak, this shows you how a 'new legislature' for and of the cosmos must precede the 'new executive' to implement the new laws of the universe.

Mother Gaia is the executor for those new dispensations not the ptb and not the PTB, the latter who are the returned ancient ones in whatever form and guise, functioning as the agents for the World Logos.

We note some generalities about channelers atm.
In our analysis there were and are very few data bases, which carry a significant component in alignment with the 'Logos'. We care to mention the Seth and Ra material and the Kryon channel which convey useable scientific information, again in varying degrees of usability.

The Seth material; whilst excellent in this aspect, is however useless in terms of the 'History of the Logos'. It is similar to the 'Zeitgeist' data, which is basically true in terms of the ptb's workings of the fiscal and political frontiers, but is utterly misleading in terms of the function of the 'World Logos'.
Of course, this is to be expected; a high percentage of 'truth' in one field must be compensated in basic 'untruth' in the other field to preserve the 'Law of Confusions' - as correctly inferred in the Ra material and say the trilogy of the 'Conversations with God' material of Neale Donald Walsh.

Two (PTB)-aligned 'alternative researchers' atm are Richard Hoagland and Dolores Cannon; the latter's solitary stance protecting her from the public overexposure and pressures, befalling the greater percentage of the alternative 'truth seekers' and popularizers.

There are many others; all of whom display varying percentages of 'truth' and 'untruth' relative to the data base of the PTB under guidance of the Logos.

There are four natural elemental directions say, and as honoured by the indigenous civilizations.
We shall present a very general idea of how those ET associations are archetyped in the history of Gaia.

These are encoded in the 'scrolls' and define the Northern Earth of Arcturus as a pachydermian ET connection for the 'ptotection of the earth'.
The Southern Waters are those of the Pleiadeans and they are cetaceous and of course 'protect the oceans and the waters'.
The Western Winds are those of Sirus and they honour the canines and their families including bears and seals say.
The Eastern Flames are those of Andromeda as the feline protectors, which as a constellation within Perseus aka the Milky Way galaxy also becomes a galactic stargate to the Andromeda galaxy (M31), so 2.5 million lightyears distant in linear lightspeed from the earth.

The Annunaki-Orion-Lyran starwar sagas are just that; sagas as told by the rememberers of the wisdom keepers; the PTB of older days and often associated with the sages and shamans and medicine people of the past.

Yes, those 'starwars' occurred, but they were not as physical as many presume, as say present observers and seekers, who are only able to utilise the present environmental factors as a basis for their referencings.

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#27478 16 hours, 51 minutes ago - March 6th, 2011 unplugged wrote:
Re Revelatorium Arachne: Our analysis has shown, that your reference above is rather general, albeit based on a sound basic understanding of the archetypology as say embodied in the 'sacred geometry'.It is however insufficient to allow a deep penetration into the 'Gnosis of the Logos', due to its peripheral application of the omni-science.


Agreed!

...We adhere to Pythagorean Numerology and extend the ciphers in root reduction to 55=5 5=10 in the ennead. In this system the 'life pyramids' then are given in the 9-tier in the numbers of the 'life'; the 'balance' and the 'comprehension'.


The only pyramids I use are those created within the cycles of date of birth, with no reduction of the master numbers 11, 22. In all other cases reductions are to the single digit cardinal numbers 1-9.

...Also, there are major flaws in this material; say when dimensions, hyperphysics and scriptural encodings (like say the number 666) are discussed. The basic cosmogony about the 'Rebellion of Lucifer' is also grossly misleading and has caused much consternation and misinterpretation more in league with the 'bible students/bashers', then the alternative 'New Age' approach to the subject matter.


Funny you should single this out. It was precisely this area that made me question this material. It served its purpose admirably as my exploration of the work subsequent to the 666 and Luciferian rebellian material was "Yes, well hmm . . ."

. . . You and many humans are experiencing the Pisces New Moon of 2011; which is supercharged in a reconfiguration of the Saros DragonNode as the new ruler of Libra, replacing Venus.
Iow, the Full Moon rulership of Cancer as the 4th standard sector in the Mother's Family' has become partnered in the 7th standard house of the partnerships in the New Moon rulership of Libra and representative for the Head or North of the DragonNode and the Tail or South of the DragonNode in the ecliptic saros cycle.

...This unplugged, is NEW DATA, you will not find anyoplace else in the ptb data base, as it is partial to the PTB.=


I can certainly agree that I have not heard this before.


Thank you unplugged; yes you appear to follow the Pythagorean School of Numerology.
Did you realise what Pythagoras meant in the 'sacred form of the ciphers'?

The basic lower plane of the physicality is 1-4-7 and in nondigitalised version all these are constructed by LINEAR SEGMENTS.

The emotional/spiritual/feeling middle plane is 2-5-8 and is comprised of MIXED NUMBERS in being partially LINEAR and partially CURVED and with the cipher 8 as the 44 of the physical ascension and as the 0 0.

This defines the vesica pisces of the intersection of the above and the below in the two circles of the encompassing unitary circle to define mathematical infinity symbolically in the geometric selfreproduction 1-2-4-8-.... (cellular mitosis and the data propagation of Fibonaccian experience factors as embodied in the Spiral of Archimedes).

Finally, the ROUNDED or curved number of the mental plane are 3-6-9; made up exclusively in rounded arcs.

The 'special masternumbers' of the 11=2; 22=4 and 33=6 so become encompassed in the ascension 44=8 as the 4 even numbers 2,4,6,8 in the ennead of the Pythagorean Tetraktys.

Perhaps you will also find the following numerology interesting, should you not already be familiar with those mathematical facts.

All natural positive integers from 1 to 36 add to 666 and this sum is also equal to the sum of all prime squares from 2 to 17.

1 2 3 ... 34 35 36=666=22 32 52 72 112 132 172=4 9 25 49 121 169 289


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#27499 13 hours, 29 minutes ago - March 6th, 2011 Arachne wrote:
Thank you unplugged; yes you appear to follow the Pythagorean School of Numerology. Did you realise what Pythagoras meant in the 'sacred form of the ciphers'?

The basic lower plane of the physicality is 1-4-7 and in nondigitalised version all these are constructed by LINEAR SEGMENTS.

The emotional/spiritual/feeling middle plane is 2-5-8 and is comprised of MIXED NUMBERS in being partially LINEAR and partially CURVED and with the cipher 8 as the 44 of the physical ascension and as the 0 0.

This defines the vesica pisces of the intersection of the above and the below in the two circles of the encompassing unitary circle to define mathematical infinity symbolically in the geometric selfreproduction 1-2-4-8-.... (cellular mitosis and the data propagation of Fibonaccian experience factors as embodied in the Spiral of Archimedes).

Finally, the ROUNDED or curved number of the mental plane are 3-6-9; made up exclusively in rounded arcs.

The 'special masternumbers' of the 11=2; 22=4 and 33=6 so become encompassed in the ascension 44=8 as the 4 even numbers 2,4,6,8 in the ennead of the Pythagorean Tetraktys.

Perhaps you will also find the following numerology interesting, should you not already be familiar with those mathematical facts.

All natural positive integers from 1 to 36 add to 666 and this sum is also equal to the sum of all prime squares from 2 to 17.

1 2 3 ... 34 35 36=666=22 32 52 72 112 132 172=4 9 25 49 121 169 289


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Actually, NO! I don't know any of what you write from my studies in Numerology. I know some info on the vesica pisces from the Revelatorium material and from Drunvalo Melchizedek's work. In all instances I balk at mental gymnastics, especially when the underlying formulations are unknown -- or make no sense -- to me. I am probably best described as SELECTIVELY LAZY.

If something is worth study then it must engage both my mind and heart. When info (as thought waves) gets overly technical I lose interest because I lose INSIGHT (heart sense). When info (as sound waves) gets overly emotive and incoherent OR overly technical in sound expression I lose sensibility and sensitivity in what seems like clamoring senseless noise.

I am more a heart-mind than a mind-heart, if that makes sense to you.

None of these admissions of ignorance should be construed as incapacity or lacking the requisite skills / knowledge to be an expert numerologist in this vector of space/time.

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I am rereading all the info you provided earlier in direct response to my queries. It gets somewhat less dense with each reading

My first set of questions relate to the following:

You write Knowing the Father also to be the Mother in a FatherMother Creator-Creation duality; the Son is also the Daughter as the firstborn offspring, the first cosmogenetic reproduction of that duality.The GrandSon is called the 'He-Holy Ghost' and the GrandDaughter is the 'She-Holy Spirit' as the offspring of the offspring in three necessary generations for the cosmogenetic 'Family of God'. A trinity of generations is required to reflect the grandparents in the grandchildren via the matrix definitions for the permutations of the sexual chromosomes.


1-What exactly is a Holy Ghost?

2-Who exactly are the "He-Holy Ghost" and the "She Holy Spirit"? Is this the PHYSICAL male and female form embodied by sons and daughters where the inversion of MATTER remains predominant and SPIRIT -- the divine boy-and-girl shards -- get lost in the mania from the moment the first breath is drawn, and where the constant pull/tug on awareness is OUTER rather than INNER?

If all "the Sons and Daughters [are doing is] running around on a planet called Earth, having forgotten who they are and where they came from and for what purpose they came to be where they are" then

3-Why doesn't PTB residing in the natural group mind of the up-turned pyramid provide info equivalent to that provided by the ptb in their hierarchically based downward-pointing pyramidical structures (inverted to appear as upturned in 3D reality) via their interlinked databases? (And yes I recall you said the info is hoarded by the controllers at the top and selectively doled out based on placement within the hierarchy.)

4-Why do they get to hoard all the secret knowledge in their Vatican libraries while the natural boys 'n girls are left sucking our thumbs (or whatever), and forced to wade thru manipulated horse-sh*t to get to the truth?

And no, I haven't read Thomas yet though cursorily glancing thru one page I must say I agree with this quote (5) Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."

It seems to me that between the veils that come down upon birth on this planet AND the unrestrained, duplicitous, vicious, robotic, manipulated, ego-centric, deranged, insensible UNFEELING shenanigans of the Black-light ptb we're nowhere aligned on an EQUAL playing field. How in Creator's name can you ask with a straight face why we aren't getting a jump on the Father's business and creating the matrices that permit the 2nd-generation grandchildren matrices to form?

Thank you for your perspectives, especially when they are expressed simply and do not require mastery of all fields of inquiry in order to be understood.

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I am rereading all the info you provided earlier in direct response to my queries. It gets somewhat less dense with each reading

My first set of questions relate to the following:

You write
Knowing the Father also to be the Mother in a FatherMother Creator-Creation duality; the Son is also the Daughter as the firstborn offspring, the first cosmogenetic reproduction of that duality.The GrandSon is called the 'He-Holy Ghost' and the GrandDaughter is the 'She-Holy Spirit' as the offspring of the offspring in three necessary generations for the cosmogenetic 'Family of God'. A trinity of generations is required to reflect the grandparents in the grandchildren via the matrix definitions for the permutations of the sexual chromosomes.

1-What exactly is a Holy Ghost?

2-Who exactly are the "He-Holy Ghost" and the "She Holy Spirit"? Is this the PHYSICAL male and female form embodied by sons and daughters where the inversion of MATTER remains predominant and SPIRIT -- the divine boy-and-girl shards -- get lost in the mania from the moment the first breath is drawn, and where the constant pull/tug on awareness is OUTER rather than INNER?

If all "the Sons and Daughters [are doing is] running around on a planet called Earth, having forgotten who they are and where they came from and for what purpose they came to be where they are" then

3-Why doesn't PTB residing in the natural group mind of the up-turned pyramid provide info equivalent to that provided by the ptb in their hierarchically based downward-pointing pyramidical structures (inverted to appear as upturned in 3D reality) via their interlinked databases? (And yes I recall you said the info is hoarded by the controllers at the top and selectively doled out based on placement within the hierarchy.)

4-Why do they get to hoard all the secret knowledge in their Vatican libraries while the natural boys 'n girls are left sucking our thumbs (or whatever), and forced to wade thru manipulated horse-sh*t to get to the truth?

And no, I haven't read Thomas yet though cursorily glancing thru one page I must say I agree with this quote (5) Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."

It seems to me that between the veils that come down upon birth on this planet AND the unrestrained, duplicitous, vicious, robotic, manipulated, ego-centric, deranged, insensible UNFEELING shenanigans of the Black-light ptb we're nowhere aligned on an EQUAL playing field. How in Creator's name can you ask with a straight face why we aren't getting a jump on the Father's business and creating the matrices that permit the 2nd-generation grandchildren matrices to form?

Thank you for your perspectives, especially when they are expressed simply and do not require mastery of all fields of inquiry in order to be understood.







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1. The 'Holy Ghost'-'Holy Spirit' label is an archetype, which you can express in a multitude of similar expressions, like yang-yin or animus-anima and so on.
However, here, in this context, it refers to the 'highest level' of energy manifestation, say the 12th dimension or the 'Word of the Planter of the kabbalistic "Tree of Life", from which the 'sephirots' or 'lower kingdoms' emanate.
We term it the male and female parts of the 'World Logos' which one can then rename as particular characterisations as say Jesus of the Naassenes and Mary of the Magdalas.

2. Yes, the BODY (of anything) as a say morphogenetic form is PARTICULAR and is the say lower part in the older Cartesian dualism of the Mind-Body divide.

Then the MIND as a higher form in this dualism is the superform of the particular as a WAVE, encompassing all the particular forms, including galaxies, starsystems, planets, humans, animals, plants and atoms and their subatomic constituents, which then however become waveforms again (electrons and quarks in technical terms).


So our answer is simply for you to not destroy but double this duality in adding the lower BODY to the higher MIND and vice versa in the mirroring of the Cartesian dyad.

Then you have a higher MINDBODY and a lower BODYMIND and this model then allows you to redefine yourself in a new cosmic template. This relates to the quadrupling of the 64-codex of the human DNA into a 256-codon tier of the say starhuman DNA.
We have shared some details of this elsewhere in this thread.

Here is a somewhat dated video, which nevertheless is in harmony with our data base.
The 'Pleiadean data stream' represents one of the four major 'ET message directions' from many and divers sources; and which, though filtered by their 'media', often harbour a great percentage of 'Logos truth'.
We have found no dissonating information in this video on a first perusal, so we share it here as supporting material and for your benefit.




This then also allows you to INFUSE the density of the BODY solitary with the 'Lightenergy of the Wave' and so materialise a hybrid form between the old physical massdefined matter (say molecular bodies based on laws of physics and biochemistry) and what many term the astral body or the lightbody.

The actual omniphysics is rather technical and engages the unification of the nuclear interaction forces (strong colourforce and weak radioactivity ) in a fifth fundamental symmetry termed CPT-Invariance.
We shall not delve further into this at this time. But the fifth 'elementary' interaction of nature so can be termed the RestMass Photon (as the light filament of awakened consciousness in the video), showing you the subatomic building block for the 'Lightbody Merkabah' as a 'Particle of spaceinherent consciousness' in reductionistic terminology.

The 'Higgs Boson' of the standard physicists and more esoteric labelings like the 'Ganesha Particle' and 'Orgone' and 'Mitogenetic Radiation' and such are related to this scenario.

3. Your questions 3-4 seem a little confused as to contextual detail to us and we would ask you to be more precise in your enquiries. But we shall try to accomodate you, as well as we can determine your meanings.

The PTB is indeed harboured deep within yourself unplugged. You are the PTB as much as we are PTB; but it becomes a question of graduation and of the reharmonisation of yourself BEFORE you can access the more intricate remembrances of your own origins.

See the present warpzone engages the cosmos, not just this planetary evolvement into its galactic expression.

You will NOT find the 'self realisation' or the 'enlightenment' in following some form of dogmatic manual; though all of those manuals carry part of the puzzle you have come to reassemble.

So many here on this and similar forums are part of the grand polarisation of the audience upon Gaia, instead of being cocreators.

We can give you an example, which will again polarise the many against the few, as an effect of the 'words' used.
So we ask you not to become offended by the following excerpt here disclaimed as:
{Presented in the Spirit of 'Humour Noir' of the Dark Comedy of the never to be fall into the pits of sarcasm in a Genre of La Presentation}

This is the Charge-List of Satanicus Rex, into which all of YOU belong to in any degree of permutation and in the following classifications of interchangeable group numberings:


Group-----Reality-Perception------(Nat)ural State/AntiState-------Tradition--------God-Man-Scale

1.Gnostic...Gnostic Reason.......Spiritual/Physical......Adogmatic-Fundamental..............[][][][][x][][]

2.Agnostic.....Agnostic Reason......FeelingNatural/EmoSupNat....Any...........................[][][x][][][][]

3.Rationalistic....Rational Reason.......Rational/Intuitive.................Any.......................[][x][][][][][]

4.Theistic....Theistic Reason......EmoSupNat/FeelingNatural....Dogmatic-Fundamental...[][][][][][][x]

5.Arationalistic.....Intuitive Reason........Intuitive/Rational.................Any....................[][][][][][x][]

6.Astralistic....New Age Reason......Naturally Androgynous....Adogmatic-Fundamental..[][][][x][][][]

7.Atheistic.....Material-Scientific.....Physical/Spiritual........Dogmatic-Fundamental.........[x][][][][][][]


The Charges are as follows and as for the God-Man-Scale MEPOPEM:

1. Charge against the Gnostic: Murder Degree I, for the Man-Slaughter in Physical Reality.

2. Charge against the Agnostic: Murder Degree III, for the God-Slaughter in Physical Reality.

3. Charge against the Rationalist: Murder Degree II, for the God-Slaughter in Emotional Reality.

4. Charge against the Theist: Murder Degree III, for the Man-Slaughter in Mental Reality.

5. Charge against the Intuivist: Murder Degree II, for the Man-Slaughter in Emotional Reality.

6. Charge against the Astralist: Murder Degree IV for the GodMan-Slaughter as a OneMirror.

7. Charge against the Atheist: Murder Degree I, for the God-Slaughter in Mental Reality.


In this example unplugged; the various plusses and minusses defining the missing elements in the dogmatic groups (and including the standard label of the 'new ager' as the astralists) are indicated.

Your query is engaged from a mixed perspective of the 7 classes, say a little skeptic here and a minor or major astralist there and a whatever there.

So then the PTB is embodied in ALL dogmas as a shard of the sourcesink monad; but cannot be fully expressed until the seven categories are harmonized in the data collector for the cosmos (you).

So then you can fill in the gaps perhaps and answer your own questions?

What good is it to be a hermit; sit under the wisdom tree; denounce the worldy pleasures {which are shared in the golden rules say); teleevangelise the 'word of god'; fear the ptb and their demonic entities on alternative forums; chant mantras to mandalas or facing the kaaba or the Jerusalem wailing wall in sutras and verses; observe the stars through telescopes and do experiments of whatever form to discover the secrets of the universe; follow the political or individual dreams of utopia and a better world; watch tv or write novels and poetry????

All those things have meaning in the gathering of experiences and of interactions. None of those things are of insignificance, as the learning of anyone becomes the data of the universal information matrix.
But the reason and purpose is much deeper and much more profound.
It relates to You not in space and time and as the shard of the sourcesink, the singularity, the centre of the circle yada yada.

But dear unplugged, without the yada yada an the bollocks and the blahblah and the goobledegook; you will find you will remain UNABLE to gain remembrance.
Without the hard mental work and the delving into the unchartered 'waters of the yada yada' you will simply NOT have enough data or information base to become coupled and to awaken the slumbering Logos of the PTB waiting for you from your innermost core.

Sure you can deny and stand on your opinions of there being another way, your way, and independent from the way of the One who DEFINED all of this. This ONE is called the 'Word of God' in religious terms and its denial as this 'one-and-only' template for all; is the 'charge' of satanicus rex against the alternative thinkers as tabulated in the above.

4. Again the seven categories require the search and discovery of the missing pieces unplugged.
We have described the differences between the PTB of the individuated data collector (like you) and the ptb of the elitist information 'hording' before. It is necessary for the greater cosmic plan; which has recognised Gaia and the human 'struggle' to evolve despite all the encumberances and hurdles.
This 'hurdle' then is the 'lack of this and that'.

But it is not sufficient to reject and denounce the misunderstood. And the 'evil ptb' are indeed greatly misunderstood. Not in their individual and 'familiar' human expressions of megalomania, greed and you know what else; but in the 'ideas' and the paradigms the original 'founders' attempted to implement.

It is simply continuity of the human historical cycle beginning almost 26,000 years ago.
The suppression of the 'reason of science' by the ecclesia in the times of Galileo, Kepler and Newton has now become the suppression and marginalistion of 'religion' and has polarised the mental assimilation potentials even further.

The most dogmatic islamist still utilizes the common language of science in the nuclear warhead to fight the 'unbeliever's' intercontinental missile constructed by the selfsame Universal Language of the methododical and reductionistic science and then manifesting in the time the 'pragmatistic believers' , of whatever persuasion, had the political powerbase.

The difference to NOW is, that for the first time in this human history; the 'Kingdom of the Creator' can be truly shared on a worldwide basis. This is what the www and the internet actualises and it is because of this fact; that the grand polarisation can now, at the end of the 26,000 years, (actually 9,360,000 days); be brought to its conclusion.


But we shall end here and not stir the flames of indignation any longer at this time.
Is self sovereigny doubted here? Where is the 'Free Will' - well the creator was not God see; it was the Word - the Word rescued and defined the chaos as is said in John.1.1.:

"In the Beginning was the Word (Definition) and the Word (Definition) was With God (SourceSink Energy) and the Word (Definition) Was God (SourceSink Energy)."

Can you then remember this unplugged?

You were there when the universe was born and now you are where you are waiting to remember the creation; waiting to come home again in a grander version than you were before and then 'God as the PTB' of the Elders of the Cosmos; will assemble around the Icecold Fires of heavenhell to listen to your story and the stories of all of the rememberers who did the hard yada yada and became truly independent and free apart from their opinions of their selfdeluded selfrighteous understandings.

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#27591 4 hours, 7 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011 thanks arachnae
i wanted to ask about these so-called electromagnetic vehicles that james horak speaks of...how can we get one?






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#27604 3 hours, 9 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011 arctourist wrote:
thanks arachnae
i wanted to ask about these so-called electromagnetic vehicles that james horak speaks of...how can we get one?


Here is a development about James Horak's EMV's and Our perspective on it dear arctourist:

projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?...s-and-Answers/page17


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Hello everybody, I am new here and would like to participate in this interesting blog dissecting the intentions of the ruling elite or the '33'.

I would like to insert some important facts adding to the picture Kerry drew in her in-depth analysis. Kerry noticed that 'Charles' has talked about the 'uncontrollable Sun' and I want to point to the fact that the powers that be take the 'uncontrollable Sun' as justification for the construction of the deep underground military bases (DUMBs) so that they can, in their understanding, at least 'save' the human species as such under their conditions, i.e. every person of their choice to survive being implanted with a chip.

I have to draw a connection here to the sudden appearance of the huge objects in the corona of the Sun at the beginning of 2010. These objects were first detected in 1985 by Dr. Norman Bergrun in the rings of Saturn, he called them EMVs - Electro-Magnetic-Vehicles. The EMVs have now moved to the Sun to make a display for the whole world to see.

These EMVs, about 18 of them, are each larger than planet Earth and are here with a task. They are interacting with the Sun, influencing the magnetic structure of the Sun, preventing solar flares or CMEs (Coronal Mass Ejections) from hitting the Earth. They have always done this, according to James Horak, who is in 'communication' with them. I know this sounds like just another fiction but consider this: if the Sun would not have been 'controlled in the past we, the human race would have been exstinguished a long time ago by CMEs. When the South American civilisations saw a formation of the EMVs in ancient times they called this phenomenon 'The Feathered Serpent'.



As I said, the EMVs are here with a task. THEY control the 'Experiment' called Earthbound Humanity at last and not the powers that be or any 'Aliens'. The 33 are not aware of the fact that they do not have the LAST WORD in what the fate of humanity is. They certainly have acknowledged the presence of the EMVs in the corona of the Sun but they don't recognize the fact that the EMVs will not allow for humanity to be chipped or be killed en masse by them. When they attempt to enslave humanity and implement the new world order, this 'experiment' will end - for us AND them and their DUMBs will not be safe at all!

It would then end for us too because we were not resistant against the disease of psychopathy. The psychopaths want to control every aspect of our lives and connect us to a computer, this we already know but this experiment is about SENTIENCE, only then will we become a race of Humanity 2.0. A war-mongering race will not be allowed to enter interstellar space and dominate others - the universe is policed by the EMVs and the EMVs are sentient! Consider also that if there were really war-like species out there we would have been subjugated fully a long time ago. But this is not the reality of the universe, there is order and only sentient races are allowed to develop further and this is the test.

You may say that there are negative races like the Greys. This is not really the case because the Greys are abandoned artificial cyborg-beings that have gone awry, a kind of cosmic mishap. The ptb have taken advantage of their technology in exchange for secure underground dwellings here on Earth because ETs are chasing the Greys and terminate them wherever they can get hold of them.

The decision for the EMVs to move away from the Sun and to leave Earth to the full impact of solar flares and CMEs is made when tptb begin to accomplish their chipping and depopulation program. Nobody is safe then, not even deep underground, this is what the 33/tptb/elite have to understand and if they don't we have to make them understand because if not then everything we have achieved will be lost and set to zero, restart. This has happened several times before when human civilisations did not pass the test. We can not allow this to happen again.

The ptb have already received several warnings in the form of directed solar flares and also benevolent ETs have stepped on our side and disabled nukes several times and even prevented WW3 last year. We are at a critical point in time, the lunar eclipse at the time of winter solstice has been the 'real event' and not that fake 12.21.2012-date that has no significant astronomical importance at all. The lunar eclipse of 12.21.2010 has been the 'switch' and 'This is Humanities Call on the Planet!'

And remember: evil never wins out - lucifer and cohorts, you lose, either way!

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AN ULTIMATUM TO "TPTB"
emvsinfo.blogspot.com/2010/12...m-to-tptb.html

Phoenix-Arachne commentary on the message from OmetaOne, posted at the linked Project Avalon forum.

This message from OmetaOne is very pertinent for the nature of the Gaian Merkabah.
The Gaian Merkabah encompasses and is defined in the cosmic consciousness and as inherent in the spacetime structure itself.
This engages InterTerrestrial Intelligences or ITs as exemplified by the Orange Plasma ships of the 'Inner Earth'.
Any celestial orb or say astronomical object of the astrophysics similarly engages in a feedback mechanism of its collected information in communicating with its environments of substructured 'vessels of consciousness'.

So there then exists a 'core consciousness' of the Sun (or any other star), communicating to its surrounding star system of planets and moons and extraorbital objects like comets and cosmic rays received from other star systems and the central galactic core (Hunab Ku as radio source Sagittarius A* for the Milky Way) or other galaxies.

Any such celestial orb so also comprises subsystems of 'consciousness integrals' or summations, which can take the form of particular cosmic intelligences like the Orange Orbs of Mexico as a planetary superintelligence accumulated as feedback mechanism in the history of the planetary evolution in say geothermal, geoecological and geobiovital systems engaging in coevolutionary patterns formed and shaped by the definitions for this core-space consciousness and as given in the Volumar definitions of Ee*=1.

The ElectroMagnetic Vehicles or EMV's so represent a highly concentrated form of solar consciousness in the form of the star's intelligence integral, in this case then on the scale of planets.






When the precessional source signal arrives at the December solstice of 2012, after completing its journey of the 65 Mayan baktuns or 9,360,000 mean solar days of 25,626.81 civil years; the solar source intelligence as expressed by the EMV's will receive the lightspeeded impulse so 8 minutes before the Gaian atmosphere and so allow this galactic wavefront to embed within itself the Sun's Intelligence or Solar Logos.

Then at the core of the physical earth, the Black Holed inertia equivalence of the Planet Gaia and the size of a golfball in the 4-dimensional Minkowski metric; will undergo the crystalline transformation to a White Hole emitter from its prior definition as a Black Hole absorber in this flat Euclidean spacetime of zero curvature.

This topological flatness so becomes curved as a now 5-dimensional consciousness vessel, albeit still the size of a golfball in the Schwarzschild Radius of the metamorphosis.
The arriving wavefront from the galactic centre then imparts or exchanges the cosmic data collected via the precessional journey from the galactic center for the collected data of the terrestrial history in all their geological evolution parameters, as well as the metaphysical existence of Gaia as the Cosmic Mother as old as the Universe itself (19.11 Billion years in civil year time).

This Gaian database then is beamed and transmitted from the wormholed crystalline center of the new Starplanet Serpentina as New Gaia back to the Sun Rahsol and then back towards the galactic center and then the extragalactic universe.
New Gaia so becomes the Cosmic Sanctuary, a Universal Library sharing the turbulent history of Gaia's existence with the extraterrestrial universe as the New Heaven on Earth and as the Cosmic Mother for ALL Extraterrestrial Sentiences - without exception.

All Life in the Omniverse shall call Serpentina their Ultimate Homecoming.

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#27611 2 hours, 8 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011 so then what?
is the experiment over?
certainly we all have other places to go when this place goes away..ain't that right?
forgive me,arachne,i can't seem to 'grok' what it is you're trying to say...
who and what are you,if you don't mind my asking...?
i think this is extraordinary-i just would like to understand it...






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The Wavefront from the Galactic Center (Hunab Ku) has been discovered by the Fermi Space Telescope as the 65 Baktun Cycle of the Timewave of the Zero-Point History


The Grand Cosmic Time Calibration between the Great Platonic Year of the Maya and the Timewave Convergence of Terence McKenna in Geometric Progression of Cellular Biovital Multiplication


The daycount of Terence McKenna's 'Timewave Zero' hypothesis, called 'Novelty Theory' (see the wiki reference and excerpted quotes below) is calculated from the numerological patterns of the King Wen sequence of the I Ching as 6x64x64=24,576 Days or 67 Years and 104 days.


This particular 'Count of Time' requires however a starting point, which is fundamentally arbitrary to then illustrate or specify the 'Compression of History' as envisaged by Mckenna and similar theories or proposals.


The previous information links the Philadelphia Experiment as such a starting point for the 67.29 year period, climaxing in the 'Opening of a Wormhole' on July 21st, 1943 and a 'Closing of this same Wormhole' on October 28th, 1943.


As the references following indicate; the 'Timewave Zero' theory engages similar ideas of Alfred North Whitehead and under labels such as 'Process Philosophy' or 'Acceleration of Knowledge', (Robert Antomn Wilson); 'Information and Cultural Development' (Ray Kurzweil) and also 'Morphogenetic Resonance' of Consciousness Carriers of Rupert Sheldrake and the 'Gaia Hypothesis' of James Lovelock.


The Great Platonic Year is often defined as a Great Precession of 26,000 'Ancient Years', each of 360 'Ancient Days' for a total Daycount of 360x26,000=9,360,000 Days or Kin and as 13x5x144,000=65 Mayan Baktuns.


Many 'New Age' or alternative 'sources' then assign the Precessional Cycle in say 12x2160=25,920 such 'Ancient Years' in approximation.


A 'modern' scientific calibration, using a calendrical 'Civil Year' of 365.2425 'Mean Solar Days' in a 400 'Civil Year' or 146,097 'Mean Solar day' Cycle will however define the Mayan Great Baktun Count as 9,360,000/365.2425=25,626.8096 'Civil Years' in this calendrical approximation fpr the cyclic integral daycount.

It so becomes a Galactic Signal from the Galactic Core (Hunab Ku of the Maya) sent at the beginning of the 65 Baktun cycles and travelling at lightspeed of so 300,000 kilometers per second; which signifies the Birth of the StarPlanet Serpentina as 'New Gaia', when the wavefront of this 'ET Signal' reaches the Center of the Earth on December 21st, 2012.

The 'Two Lobes' of the recently 'discovered' galactic structure (see NASA data below), each of a 'size' of the Precessional Year, emit Electromagnetic Radiation as the extent of this wavefront encompassing the galactic history of the Old Humanity destined to become galactic in its metamorphosis into a StarHumanity following the Insemination, Gestation, Birth and weaning of the dispensation of the World Logos as published in the Thuban data stream and associated information of related sources.

NASA's Fermi Telescope Finds Giant Structure in our Galaxy!








Using data from NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, scientists have recently discovered a gigantic, mysterious structure in our galaxy. This feature looks like a pair of bubbles extending above and below our galaxy's center. Each lobe is 25,000 light-years tall and the whole structure may be only a few million years old. (Video credit: NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center)

WASHINGTON -- NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope has unveiled a previously unseen structure centered in the Milky Way. The feature spans 50,000 light-years and may be the remnant of an eruption from a supersized black hole at the center of our galaxy.

"What we see are two gamma-ray-emitting bubbles that extend 25,000 light-years north and south of the galactic center," said Doug Finkbeiner, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass., who first recognized the feature. "We don't fully understand their nature or origin."

The structure spans more than half of the visible sky, from the constellation Virgo to the constellation Grus, and it may be millions of years old. A paper about the findings has been accepted for publication in The Astrophysical Journal.

Finkbeiner and his team discovered the bubbles by processing publicly available data from Fermi's Large Area Telescope (LAT). The LAT is the most sensitive and highest-resolution gamma-ray detector ever launched. Gamma rays are the highest-energy form of light.

Other astronomers studying gamma rays hadn't detected the bubbles partly because of a fog of gamma rays that appears throughout the sky. The fog happens when particles moving near the speed of light interact with light and interstellar gas in the Milky Way. The LAT team constantly refines models to uncover new gamma-ray sources obscured by this so-called diffuse emission. By using various estimates of the fog, Finkbeiner and his colleagues were able to isolate it from the LAT data and unveil the giant bubbles.

Scientists now are conducting more analyses to better understand how the never-before-seen structure was formed. The bubble emissions are much more energetic than the gamma-ray fog seen elsewhere in the Milky Way. The bubbles also appear to have well-defined edges. The structure's shape and emissions suggest it was formed as a result of a large and relatively rapid energy release - the source of which remains a mystery.

One possibility includes a particle jet from the supermassive black hole at the galactic center. In many other galaxies, astronomers see fast particle jets powered by matter falling toward a central black hole. While there is no evidence the Milky Way's black hole has such a jet today, it may have in the past. The bubbles also may have formed as a result of gas outflows from a burst of star formation, perhaps the one that produced many massive star clusters in the Milky Way's center several million years ago.

"In other galaxies, we see that starbursts can drive enormous gas outflows," said David Spergel, a scientist at Princeton University in New Jersey. "Whatever the energy source behind these huge bubbles may be, it is connected to many deep questions in astrophysics."



Hints of the bubbles appear in earlier spacecraft data. X-ray observations from the German-led Roentgen Satellite suggested subtle evidence for bubble edges close to the galactic center, or in the same orientation as the Milky Way. NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe detected an excess of radio signals at the position of the gamma-ray bubbles.

The Fermi LAT team also revealed Tuesday the instrument's best picture of the gamma-ray sky, the result of two years of data collection.

"Fermi scans the entire sky every three hours, and as the mission continues and our exposure deepens, we see the extreme universe in progressively greater detail," said Julie McEnery, Fermi project scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

NASA's Fermi is an astrophysics and particle physics partnership, developed in collaboration with the U.S. Department of Energy, with important contributions from academic institutions and partners in France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Sweden and the United States.

"Since its launch in June 2008, Fermi repeatedly has proven itself to be a frontier facility, giving us new insights ranging from the nature of space-time to the first observations of a gamma-ray nova," said Jon Morse, Astrophysics Division director at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “These latest discoveries continue to demonstrate Fermi's outstanding performance.”

For more information about Fermi, visit:

www.nasa.gov/fermi





"As above... so below" ---Starhuman Butterfly

"Because of a great love, one is courageous" Lao Tzu


The NASA Update: www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10..._Chandra_Update.html

furthermore links the '2Lobes' as 'Bubbles of Human Consciousness' Evolution in the astrophysics of the expanding wavefront elegantly mapping the history of the human civilization within an encompassing higherD actually 4-vector space of Riemann) as this 'Cosmic Consciousness'.

The 'Dark Matter' so cannot be DIFFUSED past the scale of the lobes, as the 'dark matter' (and the dark energy) in associated Black Hole membrane physics is limited by the invariance of the lightspeed expansion of the precessional parameter.

Rotating the galactic structure perpendicular to the galactic disk about any arbitrary axis will define the encompassing spheroid as enveloping the three toroidal families of the 'Anchor' with the two lobes separating as two half-bubbles; the 'Horn Torus' of the depicted tangential intersection and the 'Spindle Torus' as the 'Vesica Pisces' of the selfintersection mode of the two half-bubbles.






Bubbles of Energy Are Found in Galaxy
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center


From end to end, the newly discovered gamma-ray bubbles extend 50,000 light-years, or about half of the Milky Way’s diameter, as shown in this illustration.

By DENNIS OVERBYE

Published: November 9, 2010:
"Something big is going on at the center of the galaxy, and astronomers are happy to say they don’t know what it is.

A group of scientists working with data from NASA's Fermi Gamma-Ray Space Telescope said Tuesday that they had discovered two bubbles of energy erupting from the center of the Milky Way galaxy.
The bubbles, they said at a news conference and in a paper to be published Wednesday in The Astrophysical Journal, extend 25,000 light years up and down from each side of the galaxy and contain the energy equivalent to 100,000 supernova explosions.

“They’re big,” said Doug Finkbeiner of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, leader of the team that discovered them.

The source of the bubbles is a mystery. One possibility is that they are fueled by a wave of star births and deaths at the center of the galaxy. Another option is a gigantic belch from the black hole known to reside, like 'Jabba the Hut', at the center of the Milky Way.
What it is apparently not is 'Dark Matter', the mysterious something that astronomers say makes up a quarter of the universe and holds galaxies together.
“Wow,” said David Spergel, an astrophysicist at Princeton who was not involved in the work.

“And we think we know a lot about our own galaxy,” Dr. Spergel added, noting that the bubbles were almost as big as the galaxy and yet unsuspected until now.
Jon Morse, head of astrophysics at NASA headquarters, said, “This shows again that the universe is full of surprises.”

One of the most surprised was Dr. Finkbeiner. A year ago he was part of a group led by Gregory Dobler of the Kavli Institute for Theoretical Physics in Santa Barbara, Calif., that said it had discerned the existence of a mysterious fog of high-energy particles buzzing around the center of the Milky Way.

The particles manifested themselves as a haze of extra energy after all the known sources of gamma rays — the most energetic form of electromagnetic radiation — had been subtracted from Fermi data that had recently been made public.

At the time, Dr. Finkbeiner and his colleagues speculated that the haze was produced by dark matter. The center of the galaxy is home to all manner of wild and woolly high-energy phenomena, including a gigantic black hole and violently spinning pulsars, but cosmological theories also suggest that dark matter would be concentrated there. Collisions of dark matter particles, the theory goes, could produce showers of gamma rays.

But in the follow-up analysis, the haze — besides being bigger than Dr. Finkbeiner and his colleagues had thought — turned out to have sharp boundaries, like, well, a bubble. Dark matter, according to the prevailing theory, should be more diffuse.

“Dark matter has been there billions of years,” Dr. Finkbeiner explained. “If something has been going on for billions of years, you wouldn’t expect a sharp edge.”
He and the other scientists said this did not mean that dark matter was not there clogging the center of the galaxy, but that it would be harder to see.


A version of this article appeared in print on November 10, 2010, on page A18 of the New York edition.




It can then be ascertained, that the McKenna Timewave is calibrated with the Great Platonic Year of the Maya in the Cyclicity of 390,000 Timewaves being identical to 1024 Great Platonic Mayan years or 65x1024x144,000=66,560x144,000=9,584,640,000 Kin.

390,000x24,576=9,584,640,000 or 26,624,000 'Ancient Years' or 26,241,853.02 'Civil Years'.


This can be written in the following manner to crystallize the encoded 'scriptures' for a particular application for a discernment as to the meaning and interpretation of those encoded scriptures.


1) 390,000x24,576=1024x26,000x360

2) 64x64x6x390x1000=1024x26x360x1000 (reducing by 1000, the thousands from the encodings following)

3) 4x210 x6x390=210 x26x360 (reducing by 210=1024 )

4) 24x390=26x360=9360=24x13x30=2x13x360 (reducing by 13)

5) 24x30=2x360=2x12x30 (reducing by 30)

6) 24=2x12

24 ELDERS = 2x12 BIStarHumans

288,000=2x144,000 Aspect Seals

12 HeShes = 12 Hes 12 Shes


26,241,853.02 'Civil Years' equal 26,624,000 'Ancient Years' in the Geometric Doubling Factor 1024=210 and as applied to the Square of 64x64=4096=212 and for a kin count of 9,584,640,000=233.180771.. and so for a logarithmic doubling factor of n=33.1580771...



This logarithmic Doubling links to the 9th Fibonacci Number 34 in the Golden Spiral.

In geometry, a golden spiral is a logarithmic spiral whose growth factor b is related to φ, the golden ratio. Specifically, a golden spiral gets wider (or further from its origin) by a factor of φ for every quarter turn it makes.


Approximate and true golden spirals: the green spiral is made from quarter-circles tangent to the interior of each square, while the red spiral is a golden spiral, a special type of logarithmic spiral. Overlapping portions appear yellow. The length of the side of a larger square to the next smaller square is in the golden ratio.



A Fibonacci spiral approximates the golden spiral; unlike the "whirling rectangle diagram" based on the golden ratio, above, this one uses squares of integer Fibonacci-number sizes, shown for square sizes 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, and 34 {en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_spiral }




From this many associations and applications in physical reality develop, including the notorious Wiltshire Crop Circle of August 8th, 2008 (8-8-8) and numerological-gematria applications of 'Pure Number Theory' in a 'Pythagorean Tradition' in regards to the 'Harmony of the Spheres' (Johannes Kepler, Roger Penrose) and the 'Sacred Number Geometry' of models such as 'Platonic Merkabahs' {Flower of Life of Drunvalo Melchizedek} and the 'Vortex Mathematics' of Marko Rodin; the latter also indicating the underpinning cosmic geometry of the transformations and 'mappings' or imaging of the Toroidal Topology onto physical structures like the Milky Way galaxy.



markorodin.com/1.5/intro-a-summary





Wiltshire Cropcircle from August 8th, 2008



The Cellular Doubling in Geometric Progression indicated above in the 888 Crop-Circle and below in mathematical definition; for example forms the basis for Marko Rodin's Vortex-Mathematics based on the 'Holy aka Wholey Name' of God (Bahuallah or Abha as the ABBA of the Cosmic Logos) in 1-2-4-8-16(1 6=7)-32(3 2=5)-64(6 4=10=1 0=1)-128(1 2 8=11=1 1=2)-256(2 5 6=13=1 3=4)-512(5 1 2=8)-1024(1 0 2 4=7)-... transforming digitally or rootreducingly to 1-2-4-8-7-5-1*-2*-4*-8*-7*-.....

Application of this decimal ennead then is used in the 'electrodynamical circuitry' of the 'Rodin Coil' based an an inherent supersymmetry of 'Magnetic Monopoles'; the latter however having deep cosmological origins in the 'sacred geometry' derived from the Fibonacci mechanism applied to supermembrane physics in multidimensional brane space. The triangulations of Rodin so can be said to map this brane space in the trisection (3x120 degrees=360 degrees) of the wavequarkian template of the 'Standard Model' in quantum mechanics and the Unitary Symmetry {SU(3)} of n-tuplets (say octads and decads) onto the observed particle properties of said model for physical theory.

Many of the claims of 'applied models' such as that of the 'Vortex Mathematics' of Rodin or the 'Merkabahs of Drunvalo Melchizedek' are however premature and remain inapplicable to a flat 4-dimensional Minkowski spacetime metric restricted and bounded in the lightspeed invariance. Models such as these, however become highly relevant in the curved metrics of hyperspace with 4 spacial dimensions added to the time dimension.



Changing the 'Daycount' to a 'Yearcount' as indicated in the above as a calibrated 'measurement unit, then allows a 10-tiered or 10-principalled geometric reduction in the History of the Cosmos, converging in 10 steps as defined in the 7 Principalities mirrored in Antiprincipalities; the 8th of the Relativity without Antiprinciple and the 9th of the Holofractalisation or the Quantisation as the 9 Timelords of the Maya or the ninefolded deities or Ennead of Ancient Egypt.

The 10th Principality then becomes a New Identity using the '9 Timelords' to 'Redefine' the Old Identity of the 1st Principality mirrored in duality in an Antiidentity.

The Convergence of 'Cosmic History' so begins at the 29=512x26,624 Million 'Ancient Year' marker and reduces in the halving of the timespans down to the 'Last Year' as given by the World Logos Timeline as the Millennium from December 21st, 2012 to December 16th, 2013.



The Geometric Progression of the 'Cellular Doubling' in biovital cellular mitosis in the Geometric Series: {20=1; 21=2; 22=4; 23=8; 24=16; 25=32; 26=64; 27=128; 28=256; 29=512; 210=1024; 211=2048; 212=4096;....2n} so becomes qualitative and quantified as illustrated by the Novelty Theories of Whitehead, McKenna, Kurzweil, Wilson, Sheldrake and Lovelock as a sample space of the proponents for this model of reality based on information theory.



#29=512x26,624,000 Ancient Years as an Universal Age of 13.631488 Billion Ancient Years or 13.43582874.. Billion Civil Years as 512,000 Precessional Cycles of 26,624 'Ancient Years'

Fractalised in Millennial Precession as 13.43582874.. Million Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 512 Ancient Years or 184,320 Days from Friday, August 17th, 1005 (Julian) - Monday, April 8th, 1510 (Julian)



#28=256x26,624,000 as 6.815744 Billion Ancient Years of 256 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession as so 6.717914372.. Million Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 256 Ancient Years or 92,160 Days from Monday, April 8th, 1510 (Julian) - Saturday, August 14th, 1762 (Gregorian)



#27=128x26,624,000 as 3.407872 Billion Ancient Years of 128 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession as so 3.358957186 Million Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 128 Ancient Years or 46,080 days from Saturday, August 14th, 1762- Friday, October 12th, 1888



#26=64x26,624,000 as 1.703936 Billion Ancient Years of 64 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession to about 1.679478593 Million Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 64 Ancient Years or 23,040 Days from Friday, October 12th, 1888 - Monday, November 12th, 1951



#25=32x26,624,000 as 851.968 Million Ancient Years of 32 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession to so 839,739 Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 32 Ancient Years or 11,520 Days from Monday, November 12th, 1951 - Saturday, May 28th, 1983



#24=16x26,624,000 as 425.984 Million Ancient Years of 16 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession to about 419,870 Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 16 Ancient Years or 5,760 Days from Saturday, May 28th, 1983 - Friday, March 5th, 1999



#23=8x26,624,000 as 212.992 Million Ancient Years of 8 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession to about 209,935 Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 8 Ancient Years or 2,880 Days from Friday, March 5th, 1999 - Monday, January 22nd, 2007



#22=4x26,624,000 as 106.496 Million Ancient Years of 4 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession to circa 104,967 Civil Years ago and

Fractalised as 4 Ancient Years or 1,440 Days from Monday, January 22nd, 2007 - Saturday, January 1st, 2011



#21 =2x26,624,000 as 53.248 Million Ancient Years of 2 Precessional Cycles and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession as about 52,484 Civil Years ago as 24,231 BC and

Fractalised as 2 Ancient Years or 720 Days from Saturday, January 1st, 2011 - Friday, December 21st, 2012



#20=1x26,624,000 as 26.624 Million Ancient Years as a Mayan Precessional Year and

Fractalised in Millennial Precession as 26,241.85302 Civil Years ago as 24,231 BC and Correlating to the the Mayan Platonic Year of 65=5x13 Baktuns in the factor 1.024=9,584,640/9,360,000=26,241.85302/25,626.8096... and

Fractalised as 1 Ancient Year or 360 Days from Friday, December 21st, 2012 - Monday, December 16th, 2013



Tuesday, December 17th, 2013 so begins a Reconfigured Cosmic Measurement of Time in arbitrary calendars defined by the count of Days or Kin in the Convergence of the Cosmic TimeCount Calibrations.



A Total of 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512=1023 Ancient Years or 360x1023=368,280 Days in 1008.316393 Civil Years (1008 'Julian' Years and 108 Days across the Gregorian Calendar Calibration from October 4th - 15th 1582) so specifies the 'Precessional Fractal Timeline' from Friday, August 17th, 1005 AD to Tuesday, December 17th, 2013 AD.





Genesis.24.60:
And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands of millions, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them.



Revelation.21.12-17:

12And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.



GOT.#35:

35) Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as a single one." {(1),000 and 1(2),000}.


Numbers.31.5:
So there were delivered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of every tribe, twelve thousand armed for war.



Revelation.7.1-4:

1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.



Daniel.7.10:
A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.


Revelation.5.11:
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;




Jude.1.14:
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,



Revelation.9.16:
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
{7 Billion Humans to whom are added 200 Million ET-StarHumans in the ratio 1/50,000=144,000/7,200,000,000}

Revelation.14.1-3:

1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.



Revelation.4.3-6:

3And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

4And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

5And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

6And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.


The following references relate to the more common anmd popular description of the McKenna Timewave theory and its relations.


"The timewave itself is a combination of numerology and mathematics. It is formed out of McKenna's interpretation and analysis of numerical patterns in the King Wen sequence of the I Ching (the ancient Chinese Book of Changes). This concept first took root in his entheogenic experiences shared by him and his brother Dennis McKenna as documented in the book True Hallucinations. The theory is clearlyTemplate:Fact based in numerology and takes shape out of McKenna's belief that the sequence is artificially arranged as such purposefully. Mathematically, the sequence is graphed according to a set of mathematical ratios, and displays a fractal nature as well as resonancesTemplate:Fact, although it was not captured in a true formula until criticism from mathematician Matthew Watkins (see below). McKenna interpreted the fractal nature and resonances of the wave, as well as his theory of the I Ching's artificial arrangement, to show that the events of any given time are recursively related to the events of other times."



"Novelty theory attempts to calculate the ebb and flow of novelty in the Universe as an inherent quality of time. It is an idea conceived of and discussed at length by Terence McKenna from the early 1970s until his death in the year 2000. Novelty theory involves ontology, morphogenesis, and eschatology. Novelty, in this context, can be thought of as newness, density of complexification, and dynamic change as opposed to static habituation. According to McKenna, when "novelty" is graphed over time, a fractal waveform known as timewave zero or simply the timewave results. The graph shows at what times, but never at what locations, novelty is increasing or decreasing."

" Precepts of novelty theory

Novelty theory has a few basic tenets:

◦That the universe is a living system with a teleological attractor at the end of time that drives the increase and conservation of complexity in material forms.
◦That novelty and complexity increase over time, despite repeated set-backs.
◦That the human brain represents the pinnacle of complex organization in the known universe to date.
◦That fluctuations in novelty over time are self-similar at different scales. Thus the rise and fall of the Roman Empire might be resonant with the life of a family within a single generation, or with an individual's day at work.
◦That as the complexity and sophistication of human thought and culture increase, universal novelty approaches a Koch curve of infinite exponential growth.
◦That in the time immediately prior to, and during this omega point of infinite novelty, anything and everything conceivable to the human imagination will occur simultaneously.
◦That the date of this historical endpoint is December 21, 2012, the end of the long count of the Mayan calendar. (Although many interpretations of the "end" of the Mayan calendar exist, partly due to abbreviations made by the Maya when referring to the date, McKenna used the solstice date in 2012, a common interpretation of the calendar among New Age writers, although this date corresponds to such an abbreviation rather than the full date. See Mayan calendar for more information on this controversy.) Originally McKenna had chosen the end of the calendar by looking for a very novel event in recent history, and using this as the beginning of the final 67.29 year cycle; the event he chose was the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, which gave an end-date in mid-November of 2012, but when he discovered the proximity of this date to the end of the current 13-baktun cycle of the Maya calender, he adjusted the end date to match this point in the calendar.
This End of History was to be the final manifestation of The Eschaton, which McKenna characterized as a sort of strange attractor towards which the evolution of the universe developed.

His predictions for this transcendent event were wide ranging and varied, depending on his audience, and different times he conjectured the following: the mass of humanity would, by means of some technology, become mentally conjoined in a great collective; the moment in which time travel became a reality; the birth of self-conscious artificial intelligence; a global UFO visitation; and occasionally he even expressed doubt whether anything at all would happen. However, McKenna claimed that there was no contradiction between these scenarios, as they might all happen simultaneously.

McKenna repeatedly describes human cultural development as a succession of historical periods which are "compressed" versions of each other. In this manner, he describes an overall acceleration of human cultural development, which he likens to a "tightening spiral" approaching what he describes as the "transcendental object of the universe".

The acceleration of human cultural development has been observed by other philosophers and historians, perhaps most notably Ray Kurzweil in his Law of Accelerating Returns.

See also Stuart Kauffman and his concept of "The Adjacent Possible"

Robert Anton Wilson has the theory of The Jumping Jesus Phenomenon, which he describes at an hour and a half long seminar given in 1988 titled "The Acceleration of Knowledge". He also theorizes that information has doubled over history, and that these doublings come faster and faster. The Jumping Jesus Phenomenon has more of a philosophical and historical basis than a scientific one, though many parallels between his theory and Timewave Zero can be drawn."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon

2012wiki.com/index.php?title=Novelty_theory_(Time_Wave_Zero)

Novelty Theory, also known as Timewave Zero, is an extension of Alfred North Whitehead's process philosophy developed by Terence McKenna from 1971 until his death in the year 2000.

Method

McKenna uses Alfred North Whitehead's epistemology:

We have to understand. Whitehead said, "Understanding is the apperception of pattern as such." ... The imagination is everything.
—McKenna, Terence ♦ New Maps of Hyperspace
According to Whitehead, any system is a self-referential pattern perceivable solely by intuition:

These ultimate notions of 'production of novelty' and 'concrete togetherness' are inexplicable either in terms of higher universals or in terms of the components participating in the concrescence. The analysis of the components abstracts from the concrescence. The sole appeal is to intuition.
—Whitehead, Alfred North ♦ Process and Reality p. 26


Concepts

Novelty

Whitehead defines information (novelty) as interconnectedness:

Creativity is the principle of novelty. Creativity introduces novelty into the content of the many, which are the universe disjunctively. ... The ultimate metaphysical principle is the advance from disjunction to conjunction, creating a novel entity other than the entities given in disjunction. ... In their natures, entities are disjunctively 'many' in process of passage into conjunctive unity... Thus the 'production of novel togetherness' is the ultimate notion embodied in the term concrescence.
—Whitehead, Alfred North; Sherburne, Donald W. ♦ A Key to Whitehead's Process and Reality
McKenna's definition is the same:

Novelty is density of connection.
—Terence McKenna at St. John the Divine's Cathedral April 25, 1996
At that, information (novelty) is the virtual (imaginary) component of the universe. In accordance with the uncertainty principle, a virtual field (a field, whose intensity is below the Planck constant) is nonlocal (omnipresent):

The imagination is a dimension of nonlocal information.
—A Few Conclusions About Life Terence McKenna's podcast
Therefore, information (novelty) is nonlocal interconnectedness.

Eschaton

The Eschaton is the state of the minimum gravitational potential energy, towards which the universe is evolving:

The universe is being pulled from the future toward a goal that is as inevitable as a marble reaching the bottom of a bowl when you release it up near the rim. If you do that, you know the marble will roll down the side of the bowl—down, down, down—until eventually it comes to rest at the lowest energy state, which is the bottom of the bowl. That’s precisely my model of human history.
—McKenna, Terence ♦ Approaching Timewave Zero Magical Blend Magazine, Issue 44, November 1994
In accordance with the minimum total potential energy principle, the universe converts its gravitational potential energy into its kinetic energy and its gravitational binding energy. The product of the kinetic and binding energies is maximal at the absolute gravitational centre of the universe.

◦The average kinetic energy of a system's particles is known as the system's temperature.
◦The maximally bound state is known as the Bose-condensed state.
Thus, the absolute gravitational centre of the universe progresses towards the state of a high-temperature Bose-condensate—Life:

... the living state is a practical realization of a Bose-condensate.
—Poccia, Nicola; Ricci, Alessandro; Innocenti, Davide; Bianconi, Antonio ♦ A Possible Mechanism for Evading Temperature Quantum Decoherence in Living Matter by Feshbach Resonance Department of Physics, Sapienza University of Rome
Therefore, the Eschaton is the summit of biological evolution—a single couple of perfect humans, in which the male represents the universe's kinetic energy, while the female represents the universe's binding energy.

The Eschaton is the ruler of hyperspace—the universe in a state of nonlocal interconnectedness. Just like most of us enjoy a much closer relationship with our television sets than we do with our neighbours, parts of the universe become nonlocally interconnected not directly but through the universe's centre, which acts as the informational hub. When the informational hub of the universe—the Earth's biosphere—will have accumulated the critical amount of information, the universe will become sufficiently interconnected to turn into hyperspace—a reality-warping paradise for a single couple of the most imaginative people (hyperspace—the "superconducting Overmind"—is, by definition, in a single quantum state; in order to fuse with that single quantum state, the human species needs to become genetically singular by being reduced to a single couple of people):

What is happening to our world is ingression of novelty toward what Whitehead called "concrescence," a tightening gyre. Everything is flowing together. The "autopoetic lapis," the alchemical stone at the end of time, coalesces when everything flows together. When the laws of physics are obviated, the universe disappears, and what is left is the tightly bound plenum, the monad, able to express itself for itself, rather than only able to cast a shadow into physis as its reflection. I come very close here to classical millenarian and apocalyptic thought in my view of the rate at which change is accelerating. From the way the gyre is tightening, I predict that the concrescence will occur soon—around 2012 AD. It will be the entry of our species into hyperspace, but it will appear to be the end of physical laws accompanied by the release of the mind into the imagination. <...> The transition from earth to space will be a staggeringly tight genetic filter, a much tighter filter than any previous frontier has ever been, including the genetic and demographic filter represented by the colonization of the New World. <...> The object at the end of and beyond history is the human species fused into eternal tantric union with the superconducting Overmind/UFO.
—McKenna, Terence ♦ New Maps of Hyperspace

Timewave

...the story of the universe is that information, which I call novelty, is struggling to free itself from habit, which I call entropy... and that this process... is accelerating... It seems as if... the whole cosmos wants to change into information... All points want to become connected... The path of complexity to its goals is through connecting things together... You can imagine that there is an ultimate end-state of that process—it's the moment when every point in the universe is connected to every other point in the universe.
—McKenna, Terence ♦ A workshop held in the summer of 1998
According to McKenna, the final period of the universe's informational evolution began on 6 August 1945 and will end with an informational singularity by 22 December 2012:

◦14 February 1946: the day of the unveiling of the first electronic general-purpose computer (ENIAC), regarded as the birth of the Information Age.
◦In 2005, information was doubling every 36 months. [Source]
◦In June 2008, information was doubling every 11 months. [Source]
◦On 4 August 2010, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said: "Every two days now we create as much information as we did from the dawn of civilization up until 2003." [Source]
◦By the end of 2010, information will be doubling every 11 hours. [Source]
I’ve been talking about it since 1971, and what’s interesting to me is at the beginning, it was material for hospitalization, now it is a minority viewpoint and everything is on schedule. My career is on schedule, the evolution of cybernetic technology is on schedule, the evolution of a global information network is on schedule. Given this asymptotic curve, I think we’ll arrive under budget, on time, December 22, 2012.
—McKenna, Terence ♦ Approaching Timewave Zero November 1994

Explanation

Both the universe's matter and the vacuum are undergoing an autocatalytic gravitational condensation, during which the more dense matter condenses increasingly faster that the less dense vacuum, so that from the perspective of matter, the vacuum appears to be expanding with an exponential acceleration. At that, the condensing matter radiates its entropy into the ambient vacuum. The growth in the relative volume of the vacuum dilutes the entropy emitted by matter and thus makes the loss of entropy by matter irreversible.

The entire evolution of the star is toward a condition of greater order, or lower entropy. It is easy to see why. In a hydrogen star each nucleon can move willy-nilly along its own trajectory, but in an iron core groups of 56 nucleons are bound together and must move in lockstep. Initially the entropy per nucleon, expressed in units of Boltzmann's constant, is about 15; in the presupernova core it is less than 1.
—Bethe, Hans A.; Brown, Gerald ♦ How a Supernova Explodes

Evolution of matter

In Boltzmann's definition, entropy is a measure of the number of possible microscopic states (or microstates) of a system in thermodynamic equilibrium, consistent with its macroscopic thermodynamic properties (or macrostate).[5] Virtual (spiritual) states are microstates; real (physical) states are macrostates. Thus the progressive decrease in matter's entropy leads to a situation in which ever-lesser spiritual efforts cause ever-bigger physical changes, which eventually allows of reality warping. By the end of 2012 AD, the entropy of the universe's matter decreases to a critical threshold, and it forms a Bose-Einstein condensate—the Eschaton.

Evolution of vacuum

The Planck constant—the energy barrier between the vacuum's virtual microstates and real macrostates—is a measure of the vacuum's entropy. By radiating its entropy into the ambient vacuum, the gravitationally condensing matter increases the vacuum's entropy—the Planck constant (ħ)—and thus raises the objective reduction threshold (E=ħ/t), making possible the existence of ever larger and intense wavefunctions—atoms, molecules, living cells, people. The progressive increase of the vacuum's objective reduction threshold culminates in the emergence of the Universal Wavefunction—the Eschaton.

Acceleration of time

Reaching every subsequent lower-entropy (i.e., having fewer internal degrees of freedom, more bound) macrostate requires making fewer interconnections (by converting the system's gravitational potential energy into the gravitational binding energy). Each successive macrostate is composed of ever larger chunks, so assembling it takes less time (just like assembling a house by joining prefabricated sections takes less time than building it brick-by-brick).

The result is that for a long time the network grows, but does not become fully connected. Instead it contains a large number of unconnected chunks, each containing a few nodes. Eventually, the addition of just one link triggers an instantaneous phase change and the network becomes fully connected."
—Society's vital networks prone to 'explosive' changes New Scientist, 13 March 2009
In the evolution of a massive star, the role of the "chunks, each containing a few nodes" is played by the ever-larger nuclei. When the size of the nuclei reaches a certain threshold, the star undergoes an instantaneous phase change into a neutron star, which can be conceived of as a single gigantic nucleus.

Each successive nuclear burning stage releases less energy than the previous stage, so the lifetime in each stage becomes progressively shorter. For a 20 MSun star:
•Main sequence lifetime ~ 10 million years
•Helium burning (3-α) ~ 1 million years
•Carbon burning ~ 300 years
•Oxygen burning ~ 2/3 year
•Silicon burning ~ 2 days
•Iron core's collapse into an infinitely interconnected (Bose-condensed) neutron star ~ a few milliseconds.
•2012wiki.com/index.php?title=Novelty_theory

FYI about the more technical aspects of the last queries only!

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27623 22 hours, 23 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011
thanks...i'm sure all that stuff might mean something to someone
for me,it means we need more posters here
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#27654 17 hours, 22 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011
A-P So our answer is simply for you to not destroy but double this duality in adding the lower BODY to the higher MIND and vice versa in the mirroring of the Cartesian dyad.

Then you have a higher MINDBODY and a lower BODYMIND and this model then allows you to redefine yourself in a new cosmic template. This relates to the quadrupling of the 64-codex of the human DNA into a 256-codon tier of the say starhuman DNA. We have shared some details of this elsewhere in this thread.


Yes. Now that you have simplified your explanation I see the double-doubling clearly, which permits me to remember that the natural human is the container of both light and dark filaments, the expression of which is concentrated in "seemingly" opposed states -- light and dark/positive and negative. The negative "seems" to predominate in the outer and have advantage due to negatively-polarized manipulations that have occurred within the creative (sexual) current within this world and others as well.


The 'Pleiadean data stream' represents one of the four major 'ET message directions' from many and divers sources; and which, though filtered by their 'media', often harbour a great percentage of 'Logos truth'. We have found no dissonating information in this video on a first perusal, so we share it here as supporting material and for your benefit.


This is a blast from the past in more ways than you know. I was part of the group mind that gathered to anchor Barbara's frequencies for the Pleiadians so that there would be less contamination within the process required for Barbara to access this information. These channelings emerged around the time Barbara traveled with Sun Bear to Egypt and returned. She was a member of our group formed at Leslie Jackson's house to study the Keys of Enoch -- another abstruse work. It was within the context of this study group that Barbara started doing regular channelings of the Ps, as they are affectionately referred to and thought of by our (back then) very small group.

The published work "Bringers of the Dawn" represents the tip of the iceberg of these gatherings. I am grateful to you for finding an excellent expression of content. The video you chose served expertly to reload a great deal of content from my memory banks into my conscious awareness. Though the video references the 90s this particular information is more correctly tagged in late 1989, when the group mind had been formed and was still very small (less than 15). We were highly spiritualized and focused on TRUTH. The information subsequent to the initial years became contaminated. Barbara, however, has regained equipoise and harmony. It was indeed a great honor and privilege to work with the Pleiadian energies. Those were truly heady and exciting times indeed!

See the present warpzone engages the cosmos, not just this planetary evolvement into its galactic expression.You will NOT find the 'self realisation' or the 'enlightenment' in following some form of dogmatic manual; though all of those manuals carry part of the puzzle you have come to reassemble.

So many here on this and similar forums are part of the grand polarisation of the audience upon Gaia, instead of being cocreators.


I follow no dogmatic anything and completely agree that it's a puzzle with pieces strewn everywhere. Your message concerning polarization in place of co-creation is indeed what is happening now to an amazing degree. However, it is also what is passing / moving into the past. The great mandala forms, despite the seeming lack of cohesion and harmony. It seems to me as the light elements gain ascendancy within yin/yang a pole shift will occur from self to Self then integration to self/Self | Self/self, thus creating the grand Children you speak of. If this is incorrect, please reformulate. Thank you.

Your query is engaged from a mixed perspective of the 7 classes, say a little skeptic here and a minor or major astralist there and a whatever there.


Yes, this is what happens when my circuits are overloaded and information has resonance on multiple frequencies and not a single one. You have correctly identified me as fundamentally minor skeptic/major astralist type, though all are indeed inherent in each. A concatenation of awareness states is what occurred in Questions 3 and 4 due to the momentary "forgetting" of the dual dyadic [double-double] model in expression. The "whatever" you refer to is circuit overload, plain and simple.

"In the Beginning was the Word (Definition) and the Word (Definition) was With God (SourceSink Energy) and the Word (Definition) Was God (SourceSink Energy)."

Can you then remember this unplugged?


Remembering and perceiving are not entirely identical. So yes, I remember but do not yet fully perceive.

You were there when the universe was born and now you are where you are waiting to remember the creation; waiting to come home again in a grander version than you were before and then 'God as the PTB' of the Elders of the Cosmos; will assemble around the Icecold Fires of heavenhell to listen to your story and the stories of all of the rememberers who did the hard yada yada and became truly independent and free apart from their opinions of their selfdeluded selfrighteous understandings.


Can hardly wait! [trust you can get a joke.]

Now see how much easier it is to communicate TRUTH when you do so simply and elegantly? Thank you.

I shall now reread some of your decidedly abstruse content from this more enlightened perspective and formulate more questions as these occur.

Blessings to you, Arachne-Phoenix.

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27663 16 hours, 25 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011
[quote="unplugged" post=27654]A-P

Can hardly wait! [trust you can get a joke.]

Now see how much easier it is to communicate TRUTH when you do so simply and elegantly? Thank you.

I shall now reread some of your decidedly abstruse content from this more enlightened perspective and formulate more questions as these occur.

Blessings to you, Arachne-Phoenix.


Yes well done Unplugged, even the apparently 'obtruse' and difficult material can lead to 'enlightenment' . Looking forward to your queries.

Arachne


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This quote by John Hughes is pertinent here:

John hughes wrote:
Our Thought Process

It is our thought process, that process by which we think, that can go about to limit our understanding of the world around us.

Regardless of the information that might present itself to us, our thought process determines whether or not we even entertain the information with which we are presented.

Our thought process (by way of our prior baseline decisions) acts as a filter, or ‘Gatekeeper’ that determines which information enters and which information does not enter.

Our philosophical framework or worldview, based upon prior determinations, decides what we will or are able to entertain. Information is entertained, integrated and implemented or put into action, based in large part upon our long-held worldview.

If information does not align itself with our worldview, chances are its not allowed to be entertained.

Oftentimes we think we are reasoning things out logically, when in reality what we are really doing is trying to fit things within our existing worldview or belief system.

Failing that - it gets jettisoned.

Dualistic Thinking

For the most part, we have been continually programmed for dualistic thinking by our society, teachers, parents, and of all those in authority over us, as well as our religious beliefs. Dualistic thinking gives us only two choices - good or bad, right or wrong, friends or foes. This is simply a black and white dualistic mentality that does not allow for the finer shades, the rainbow of colors which exist throughout the universe.

I think it's important to note here, that we have all come by this honestly, that is to say, we have all been pigeonholed into this way of dualistic thinking from our very birth. It is a birthright which no longer serves a legitimate purpose.

Coming to everything one encounters without any preconceived notions whatsoever, would seem to be ideal. Good or bad, right or wrong, friend or foe - why is it that we need to continually pigeonhole everything we encounter into such narrow parameters?

Better yet, why would we want to think along the lines of such narrow lines or parameters? It’s rather like asking us to see in only one of two colors - black or white, when one can take in all of the colors of the rainbow.

Coming to anything which we have chosen to entertain or which lies before us, without prejudice or or preconceived notions of any kind would seem to be the best option.

The first step then, is to realize that there is indeed a ‘process’ at work here in all of us, and that the way in which we think is not a random, unknown or unidentifiable process.

Our thought process is simply that – 'our thought process’ – uniquely and individually our own.

So, where then does this leave us?

The Knowing

Our salvation in all of this comes by way of The Knowing – we need only become aware of the process at work within all of us, so that we may take it into account as we approach those things that have yet to be integrated into our belief system, philosophical framework, or worldview

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27709 12 hours, 23 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011
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Yes well done Unplugged, even the apparently 'obtruse' and difficult material can lead to 'enlightenment' . Looking forward to your queries.

Arachne



What is the really the right definitions of the word enlightenment, Arachne?

As english is my third language, there is also some that is lost there in the definitions.
Translated to my language is means to inform, to know. Spelled "oplyse".

If talking of the spiritual aspect of the word, we have different words for it.
Translated means up rise, up go,
spelled "opfarelse"
Michael Tsarion speculates that the word is adressed in lightness as a weight, a total different aspect of it.
A more like resolved aspect.
spelled "lethed"
But that word is not found in the esoteric texts at all in my language translations.



"In the Beginning was the Word (Definition) and the Word (Definition) was With God (SourceSink Energy) and the Word (Definition) Was God (SourceSink Energy).


Is the meaning behind this, that someone once wanted to learn what once was, so they started to make definition of it? (assuming the purpose of the word is remembering)
Means they experienced it?
Again leads to it wasnt the real beginning, just the beginning of this.


Btw thx a lot for your answers, Arachne.
It takes times to consume them, that is the reason for the long answer time, but rings a lot to me as the truth.
Besides everydays tasks also needs to be done also.
So I can clear my mind for this.



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Tbonyandsteak wrote:

"In the Beginning was the Word (Definition) and the Word (Definition) was With God (SourceSink Energy) and the Word (Definition) Was God (SourceSink Energy).


Is the meaning behind this, that someone once wanted to learn what once was, so they started to make definition of it? (assuming the purpose of the word is remembering)
Means they experienced it?
Again leads to it wasnt the real beginning, just the beginning of this.

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This is a very interesting question, Tbony. I look forward to reading Arachne's response.

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unplugged wrote:
Tbonyandsteak wrote:

"In the Beginning was the Word (Definition) and the Word (Definition) was With God (SourceSink Energy) and the Word (Definition) Was God (SourceSink Energy).


Is the meaning behind this, that someone once wanted to learn what once was, so they started to make definition of it? (assuming the purpose of the word is remembering)
Means they experienced it?
Again leads to it wasnt the real beginning, just the beginning of this.

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This is a very interesting question, Tbony. I look forward to reading Arachne's response.


Geuss it also could mean, it is all definitions and interpretations






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#27746 9 hours, 50 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011
The word logos is quite interesting lots of deeper meanings, not really defined exact, could lead it is a very old word, that is used many connections.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos

Philo also wrote that "the Logos of the living God is the bond of everything, holding all things together and binding all the parts, and prevents them from being dissolved and separated."


Think that reflect very well what Arachne, have told about the keeping the balance, That the truth can be so profound, it is dangerous(Sct Thomas gospel) as one example of the many examples I have seen in Arachnes answer.






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Tbonyandsteak wrote:
Arachne wrote:


Yes well done Unplugged, even the apparently 'obtruse' and difficult material can lead to 'enlightenment' . Looking forward to your queries.

Arachne



What is the really the right definitions of the word enlightenment, Arachne?

As english is my third language, there is also some that is lost there in the definitions.
Translated to my language is means to inform, to know. Spelled "oplyse".

If talking of the spiritual aspect of the word, we have different words for it.
Translated means up rise, up go,
spelled "opfarelse"
Michael Tsarion speculates that the word is adressed in lightness as a weight, a total different aspect of it.
A more like resolved aspect.
spelled "lethed"
But that word is not found in the esoteric texts at all in my language translations.



"In the Beginning was the Word (Definition) and the Word (Definition) was With God (SourceSink Energy) and the Word (Definition) Was God (SourceSink Energy).


Is the meaning behind this, that someone once wanted to learn what once was, so they started to make definition of it? (assuming the purpose of the word is remembering)
Means they experienced it?
Again leads to it wasnt the real beginning, just the beginning of this.


Btw thx a lot for your answers, Arachne.
It takes times to consume them, that is the reason for the long answer time, but rings a lot to me as the truth.
Besides everydays tasks also needs to be done also.
So I can clear my mind for this.



Regards


Dear Tbony, you have asked a very deep question here and so I am going to share with you a story about the beginning of creation in the form of this fable, which hopefully will add to your understanding:


The Fable of Little Adam and the Rooster's Egg


Little Adam came to his Dad John and and his Mum Sharon on his ninth birthday to ask his parents a question, which had been on his mind for some time.
'Hey, Dad, Mum, where exactly did I come from?'
Well my son, answered John, you came out of your Mum, her womb, exactly nine years ago.'
'Yes, it was quite an occasion, Adam', added Sharon.
'It was just before lunchtime, when you were born on the 4th of August 1989.'
'Hmm!', said Adam; 'and where did you come from?'

'I came out of my mother's tummy on the 21st of October 1960, around breakfast time, as far as I know', replied Sharon. 'Ok, and where did your mother, my grandma come from then?', Adam continued.
'Your grandma was born on the 16th of May, 1922 and I don't know when', answered Sharon and realising the nature of Adam's enquiry, she continued: 'And I also do not know when your great grandma, the mother of my mother was born, I didn't really get to know her, before she died, this got lost in history.
But she too, came out of her mother's womb and her mother was born by her mother and so on back to the beginning of time.'

'Ah, but then right then, at the beginning there must have been a mother of all mothers; where did that one come from - it could not have had a mother, isn't that so?', Adam continued his train of thought.
'Now you are asking a deep question about the nature of all things,' replied John.

'The answer is found by discovering the nature of yourself; what you truly are and away from what you think or might believe you are; being here in a certain place at a certain time and asking such pertinent questions.'

'Many people have asked and thought about the same thing, Adam', continued John.
'One story says, that the first mother's name is Eve or Sarah or Dawn and she did not have a mother but was created out of her husband's tummy, whose name was Adam or Abraham or Sunset.
The story goes, that Eve was formed out of one of Adam's ribs; so to get the rib, the first belly-button had to be created on Adam's tummy, but Eve had no belly button.

To give Eve a belly button, she had to become like a mirror image of Adam and this is a selfreproductive process, where Eve comes out of Adam's tummy as a rib and Adam comes out of Eve's tummy as another kind of rib, you might call it a baby-rib.

One day you will understand this story as a metaphor for a recursive or selfiterative mathematical function or as a process in the genetic expression of the sexual chromosomes; say in the creation of the differences between male and female.

If you have XX or eight digits put together and then you take away one of the digits, then you get XX-1=XY and more specifically XX becomes XX+XY, because the single digit of the rib brings back the XX as a oneness or an unity.

So the X-part of the chromosome partners XX+XY defines the femaleness in Eve and the Y-part of the pairing patterns the maleness in Adam.

Eventually the genetic code of 16 generational permutations derives from that and all of that becomes part of a mathematical encoding of energy in geometrical forms, which then can build bodies and biochemical structures in using that code.

Now the story breaks down Adam; because you see it talks about your namesake Adam as being the first father, also being the first Son of God.

People begin to argue about just who this God is, does it exist or not?
Is it a he or a she and things like: if God created Adam and Eve out of Adam, then who created God?
And who or where are God's parents, and do they have belly buttons or not?
So to answer your question about where you came from, one must also answer this question about what God is; otherwise the story just goes on and on without end.

But once you know what God is; then you will be able to solve many mysterious and paradoxical questions about the nature of time and space and the nature of all things; the universe, your life and the beginnings and the endings and so forth.

Again, the solutions can be made or explained rather technically, what with quantum physics and multidimensional spacetimes in relativity.

It can also be told in the form of a parable; here it goes:

"Once upon a time, there lived this rooster in a place enclosed by walls of pure crystallised mountains. It was a world all within itself. This selfcontained universe of the rooster was all the rooster knew. There was this big problem stirring in the rooster's head however.

Not only was this rooster absolutely alone in its world, it was also totally invisible.
It knew itself to be a rooster, because it had thought and imagined itself to be a rooster.
But try as it might, it could not see, hear, smell, touch or taste itself.

And so this rooster was staring at the crystallised mountain walls with its own imaginary rooster eyes and thought of its own wretched state of existence of no experiences, except of what it could dream up or imagine in its thoughts.

The rooster knew that all of its world was pure imagination; the crystal mountains and all the stillness and movement within it.

Sure, the rooster conjured up other roosters and places and things; but it was all imaginative; it all revolved around itself and its own thoughts.

The rooster's imagination was all and everything it could be, yet it was so limited in its expression of itself as itself.

It was so absolute in its omnipresence and omnipotential, that it only produced loneliness; no other rooster or thing or movement or stillness was able to interact or share anything with the rooster.
The rooster was the absolute and infinite creator of all its own imaginings; but being so totally eternal and so absolutely alone made the rooster very unhappy and very sad.

Well, one could say, the definitions of what unhappy and sad and loneliness are, became an inner experience, created by the rooster's very own thoughts and imaginings.

So the rooster created its inner world and reflected upon it, imagined it to be its outer world also, passed and beyond the crystalline mountain walls.

'What was the other side like, the outside', the rooster thought to itself?
'Is there an opposite to unhappiness, to excruciating loneliness and to sadness?'
The rooster did not know and it was tired to imagine so many beautiful things, which did not create tangible experiences, but seemed only to accentuate the rooster's sense of being all alone in the world.
But a thought dawned on the rooster, perhaps somehow the outer world could become reflected in the inner world.

And so the rooster devised a way to turn the situation inside out.
The one thing the rooster knew very well, was its own energy, its creative potential.
And it knew abstractions, numbers, shapes and concepts it had created in using its discoveries of numbers and the invention of geometries in iterative mathematical functions and relationships.
Like the event, when it finally escaped the circular selfrepeating computational loop of its own primary state of experiental being in simply cutting the circle to define the numeral 1 from the Zero and to allow a linear beginning and a linearised end.

12 dimensions could be enfolded in 3, time and space had come into being and nested complexities of topologies and relative curvatures allowed refinements on quantumised scales of energy and displacement.

Oh it had been fun; the rooster's mind had felt elated, good, euphoric.
Names like that had also become definitions, contrasting the feelings of unhappiness and loneliness - and the rooster knew that it had established a set of feelings and experiences from whom it could now choose.

Did it prefer a feeling of happiness and joy to an experience of loneliness and sadness?
It had often been very painful, this journey of selfdiscovery and the creation of the ever expanding perimeter of its own realm of existence, which was all there was or ever could be.
'But how can one experience those numbers, ratios and shapes as an outer experience and out of one's own mind', the rooster asked itself?

Then an idea came to the rooster; the rooster would have to project itself in giving part of itself away and out of itself - to create the imaginary outside reality and to energise the same, bathing it in the rooster's very own energy of self.

How to do it?

'I shall transform my own energy into other forms', so the rooster decided.

Now how to project?
'I must define myself as source energy, able to penetrate myself, my own self-limitations and my own boundary conditions, however subject to extension and refinements.

Then I must somehow reproduce myself in such a way that the projection of myself is able to know me as itself; my image can then become real as the part of me, which I have projected and energised.
But I shall be careful in that I shall not allow my projected and imaged self to know myself in the totality which I am and which I have experienced.'

'I am so sick of being everywhere at all times and of experiencing that wretched state of being everything, unable to get away from my own self.

I am going not to be omnipotent anymore; I'm going to share myself around as me, in parts.
So I choose to lose myself in what I am going to create in such a way, that I can have an adventure and fun in finding myself again within my own creation.

And my inner self shall be as one with my outer self, but my outer self shall have a scope of discovery and a sense of not knowing what my inner self knows.

And so the learning of my outer self shall thrill me and allow my inner self to grow in tandem and in harmony with my outer self.'

'Now the smart thing to do is to create in such a manner, that I get back more than what I give away from my energy, and the way I shall define this, is to set the thing up so that the more of myself I give away, the more I am used up, the more reflection potential my creation shall have.

So when my creation wakes up and when it begins to release my absorbed energy back to me, then will my creation, my Beloved and my baby begin to shine its light upon me and this will make me visible for the first time in the history of myself.'

The rooster got excited; 'I, the rooster shall become visible one day', it thought!
It quickly devised a selfconsistent and logical way to create the outside world and called it the rooster's universe.

The rooster took an algorithm from its mathematical repertoire and produced 10 fundamental numerical constants to mix up the dimensions, forces and energy interactions necessary and then it initiated a process of self-reproducing blueprints, the primary principles and the elementary laws regulating the omniphysical nature of the universe.

That was the easy bit.

The universe became created mathematically and in imaginary complex functions, seeded in quantised numbers called integers and series of numbers, some converging in limits and others diverging in unitary infinities.

But how to bring it outside the crystalline mountain walls, which had proved so impenetrable to the rooster's mindfulness?

A virtual reality relative to the rooster had to become an omniphysical reality relative to the creation and this selfsame creation could then copy the rooster's own creativity and create a virtual reality relative to itself, but the same which would become the rooster's omniphysical reality.

Then the light emitted by the rooster's creation would shine onto the dual reality of the rooster and render it visible as the holographic image of the creation's very own blueprints, defined in the interference patterns of the absorbed light the creation had used from the rooster to define itself.
'Ah, I need a balancing mechanism', the rooster thought; 'I contract in principle as the inside and the antiprinciple expands as the outside.'

And so the rooster defined itself to reside in the 13th dimension and it defined the space outside of the crystal mountain walls to be the 12th dimension mirrored in the space within as the 10th dimension and the crystal mountain walls themselves to be the 11th dimension, forming the great divide between the creator and its creation.

And so the creation became 10-dimensional, but manifested in the quantisation of the 13th dimension as the 4th dimension in the numerical root reduction 1+3=4=9+4.

The next step was to define a 12-dimensional energy source, which could move freely between all of the dimensions and using the linearisation of the 4-dimensional spacetime as a consequence of the fundamental constants of the Genesis.

The rooster decided upon a form of light, defined in frequency independent of time in its primary form, but set as inverse time in its secondary application.

And so a coherent, monochromatic laserlight in 3 dimensions became the selfdefinition for the rooster's 12-dimensional energy in a secondary effect.

The rooster called it its electromagetomonopolic source energy.
'Right,' the rooster thought, 'now I radiate my primary light, which I shall name my LOVEPHOTON as the quantum of 12D-omnispace outwards and away from myself.'

'I shall make everything dependent on its energy, all the mechanics and dynamical interactions of the universe, all its geometries, movements, stillness and relationships and its number shall be three thousand million billion trillion precisely.'

'This unit of time shall also define the units of space and of restmass in correspondence to something I shall measure as part of myself inside the creation as a 13-dimensional source energy and outside the creation as myself as the invisible 12-dimensional rooster in omnispace.'

Then I shall define the 11th dimension as a mirror, half visible and half invisible, semitransparent in reflecting the inside outwards and the outside inwards.

Then whenever I shine my LOVELIGHT onto that mirror, then half of my LOVEPHOTONS shall penetrate into the outside world of myself and the other half shall reflect back into my inside world to make a record of my creation in the interference patterns created by the mirror of my 12-dimensional blueprints reflected in 10D-spacetime.'

'Now I shall shine my LOVEPHOTONS onto this record, which I shall name the rooster's hologram.
My ingenious invention of putting myself outside of myself, rests on the fact that my imaginary self is located outside of myself in the outer space, and from whom my own LOVELIGHT can reflect as my image within my own creation.

My imaginary rooster self so becomes my imaginary source energy within my creation and I myself will become my own hologram relative to my imaginary rooster self.

This reflection from my imaginary rooster self outside my world, shall so come back to me to merge with my internal reflection of my own LOVELIGHT on the hologram, the record of my endeavours.'
'Having a combined record of my outgoing and incoming source energy in the form of my hologram, will then allow me to shine my LOVELIGHT onto my holographic library for a second time.

The first coming of my LOVEPHOTONS gave me the means to make myself real in the image of my second coming in the illumination of my records, the initialisation of myself in two places at the same time.'
'I shall call this process the rooster's holography in 12 dimensions, defined in the omniscience of my specifications and which I then allowed myself to rediscover in the form of a science in 4D-linespace, reckoned in a dating of 1947.

Amongst many of my children, one of my sons, named Dennis Gabor invented the process of holography on my behalf and brought it to the world's attention.

All my children are me as my adventurers, trying to help me to find myself again as the now not so lonely totality which I am.

But no longer, my second coming allows me to redefine my virtual creation as a real creation; so no more 'Maya', no more illusion - all shall be real to me.

Well all is real relative to the creators and all the creators are my sons as bridegrooms, waiting to meet their brides in their own creations.

It must be so, since all my creator sondaughters and creator daughtersons have done exactly the same thing, which I have done.'

'All the creator sons have hatched from the same egg, which I the rooster have laid.
You see, the image of myself in outer space also becomes the birth of the 10-dimensional universe as my own hologram, enveloped and reflected in the 11th dimension of my semitransparent mirror of my crystalline mountain walls.

So the Big Bang 19.11 billion years ago, but appearing to have happened 14.7 billion years ago because of the electromagnetic doubling of my SOURCELIGHT for the last 2.2 billion years, was caused by me.'
'When I first kicked off and began to radiate my LOVELIGHT and after having defined the technical details in mathematical application of the physical and natural laws; then this ejaculation of my LOVESEED fertilised the universe as my very own Mother.

And then 'the big She' manifests my laws and definitions in giving birth to them.

Yeah, and so did I become a 'He' and the Father for all of the creation; and I created the universe for a very simple reason, namely for IT, being a SHE to give birth to me as a HE and as each other's Beloveds, FatherMothers and SonDaughters - all in One.'

'And both of us are born with bellybuttons in this way, being each others parent and giving birth to one another.

And I set up my very own dimensional expansion in creating my own Mother; for my Mother is my Beloved wife, my gorgeous darling and my eternal bride.

She grows, expands and evolves in unison with me.

She grows in Understanding out of her inborn Wisdom and I grow in Wisdom out of my inborn Understanding - those two things are necessary and go together in any harmonious application of a base of Knowledge.'

'And my Mother hasn't got a Mother of course; but she's got me as her Father.
She was created out of my own seed, because I am my own Father, the one and only true Bastard; just as my Beloved is the one and only true Bitch.

When we are together as One; male and female in One; cosmic seed and cosmic ovum in One; then the FatherMother is the MotherFather and the Father is not and also the Mother cannot be just by herself.'
'So before IT came apart to cause the Big Bang; the Fatherpart had thought of IT and only then did the Motherpart give birth to IT, namely ALL of IT; the Oneness out from the Nothingness of the Fatherpart and the Infinity out from the Everythingness of the Motherpart.

We find eggs everywhere; cosmic eggs, chiral eggs, cellular eggs, Easter eggs - and so whenever a sperm infiltrates an ovum; then the Big Bang happens over and over again.
And what is the result of all those unions?

A bellybuttoned Adam or a bellybuttoned Eve in terms of the starhumanity!

Adam is me as my Beloved firstborn sondaughter and Eve is me as my Beloved firstborn daughterson; and every child constructed from one of my seeds and from one of my eggs is necessarily the firstborn of my infinity of potential starhuman universes.'

'The universe is your body as the visible reality of me and as created body, made from the elements of the fundamental forces and the dust of the ground.

Your body is half of you, the female part of you; the male part of you is your other half in your roosterness and the world of your own mind.

Your male part is trying to understand what the heck is going on in your life and just as I did in my own isolation of my roosterhood as the Egg of the Philosophy.

Your female part is attempting to live your life as good as you can in the circumstances you find yourself in.Your maleness is mindcentred and your femaleness is bodycentred and as it should be.
So your male thinking and your female doing will be my adventure; coming back together as one in two and two in one and in one big starhuman family.

And the experiencing are the thoughts in action in the doing of the mindful creativity.'
'Then when a firstborn sondaughter creates hisher very own firstborn selfmade universe, then heshe courts and marries a firstborn daughterson as hisher creation and the bride gives birth to the oneness and this oneness makes one out of two in joining it back together in the world where I am visible and where I can experience myself by seeing and by hearing myself as each other through our eyes and through your ears.

Where I can play and feel by your touch and where I can taste myself by your tastebuds and where I can smell the roses through your very own noses.'

'All in One and One in All implies the selfrelativity of everyone of your starhuman dragonomies; you are each one brick in each others houses or a single braincell or neuron in each other's head.
Only in unifying yourself in the starhuman couplings can you escape each others dominations - for how long will you remain satisfied to recycle your experiential database of your memories, subject to your neighbour's dying body?'

'Once united in the form of DadMums and as MumDads, you will actually become grown up in an androgynous merger with me and my Beloved as the four in two in One.
I am like the Zero and my Beloved is the Infinity; the bridegroom is the Minus One and the bride is the Plus One; together you will then have graduated as an immortal God and an immortal Goddess.

And did not One after my own true image proclaim to you:

John.10.34-35:
'Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I SAID, YE ARE GODS?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scipture cannot be broken;...

1Corinthians.5.3:
'Know ye not that we shall judge angels?
how much more things that pertain to this life?'

But it will take two to tango the ultimate waltz; you cannot do it on your own.
And two 'wrecked' fleeting lives of nothingness do make eternity in 0+0=8=Infinity!
I had to give half of myself away to find my own Beloved in my missing half and you will have to do the same if you would wish to unify your bodies with your minds and to become enabled to keep the bodies and the minds you now believe to possess.'

' The universe cannot die as my Beloved, because I choose eternity as my playground.
Parts within the universe recycle and transform in energy to give you bodies made from stardust and starborn minds induced by your dreams and visions.

One evolutionary cycle ends and another begins; I do set the recharging under the auspices of my natural laws of omniscience and my Beloved implements them in mass and in radiation.
And do not all parts of your bodies recycle periodically?

Is not every cell in your body renewed in cycles of seven or nine or parts thereof?
So you should begin to think for yourselves and try to remember yourselves as every word you speak comes out of my mouth and every thought you think I have already thought, anticipating yours.'
'For when the Big Bang happened and when space and time were created; all the LOGOS was there; all of your WORDS and THOUGHTS were there.

They are in all of my children - waiting to remember; waiting to come home!"
And so did the rooster lay its egg to bring back together again, what it had to give away to experience what IT is, to be truly ALIVE.


So my dear son,' asked John; 'where did you come from Adam and why are you here?'
'Oh I know now, I've come from a place and time before time and space existed and I'm here to make my own universe, to become creative, to find my Beloved and to help Grandpa God's adventure.
And I can do all this in laying my own imaginary egg', replied Adam."

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#27771 5 hours, 29 minutes ago - March 7th, 2011 Well, well, Arachne! You DO have a nicely developed sense of humor. It seems as if we have migrated from post Doctoral studies in all fields of endeavor to storytime for the little Kiddies (with healthy veggie-math trimmings in lieu of cookies and milk).

The Fable of Little Adam and the Rooster's Egg is quite wonderful -- very layered, a delightful little nocturne with just sufficient math to add a piquant counterpoint to simple notes flowing harmoniously in a balanced motif of gentle mathematical crescendos and restrained -- even subdued -- modulations.

The rooster came to life for me. It is a BRILLIANT exposition of in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word is God. The God in me is chuckling (or should that be crowing?) delightedly.

Loved it! Be well.

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Well, well, Arachne! You DO have a nicely developed sense of humor. It seems as if we have migrated from post Doctoral studies in all fields of endeavor to storytime for the little Kiddies (with healthy veggie-math trimmings in lieu of cookies and milk).


Thank you Unplugged, I am glad you enjoyed it. Laughter is good for the soul.

A word about Milk n Cookies for the Kiddies....from the scrolls:

(4) Jesus said : "A person old in days will not hesitate to ask a child of seven days about the Place of Life, and he will live ! For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."


Isaiah 7:22
And it shall come to pass, for the abundance of milk that they shall give he shall eat butter: for butter and honey shall every one eat that is left in the land.

Isaiah 28:9
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

Isaiah 55:1
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Isaiah 60:16
Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Isaiah 66:11
That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.

1Corinthians 3:2
I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

1Corinthians 9:7
Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?

Hebrews 5:12
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

Hebrews 5:13
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

1Peter2:2
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

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Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

#27783 1 day ago = March 7th, 2011 ArcTourist the above post with the video's those video's are James Horak, he has a lot of information out there check youtube..

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#27803 19 hours, 34 minutes ago - March 8th, 2011 yes,i was the one who told everyone about james horak,and i'm always watching for new stuff-he's the man!




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#27937 12 minutes ago - March 8th, 2011 Lita wrote:
Just a note to for people to remember when you read any information to come from your inner truth and your own power base...


Cheetah Lita has found the Balsam of the Alabaster Unicorn!

Blessings for a speedy recovery, Cheeta Lita!

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Judgment Day - and the Two Secret Keys of the Leaf on the Tree

Imagine yourself as a leaf on a twig on a branch of a living tree of life.

Your nourishment and lifesustaining substances derive from two sources; the light from the sun from above and from the roots of the tree from below.

Photosynthesis converts sunlight into sugars via the agency of chlorophyll and the roots provide water and minerals in a biochemistry based mainly on nitrogen.

As a leaf you are born in a bud and then you mature into a healthy green and geometric form determined in your individuated DNA.

Yet after a short season as a luscious green leaf of the tree you begin to get old and you start to wither away, eventually falling off the twig on the branch of the tree to the ground beneath.

After you have become all brittle, you simply fall apart as a dried up old exleaf and you become compost for the roots of the tree or the wind just scatters your ashes all over the place.


But as a brown dessicated leaf, something, a lifeforce or 'soul' had already left the dead leaf before it fell off the twig onto the ground beneath the treetop - where has it gone?

When you or anything physically 'dies', then your shadow-self, which is like your physical image in any mirror and which you can see and analyse in an optical sense, becomes the repository of all your memories and experiences and forms the library of everything you have ever thought, done or believed in.


Your subconscious, which keeps a holographic record of everything and is personified in the electrocapacitative and the magnetoinductive elements in the monopolic lifecircuitry, subject to your 'tuning' of your selffrequency in a search for resonance; so surfaces and you become an EMMR energy field, also known as your 'soul'.


So you find yourself rather unlimited in space and time, because the ElectroMagnetoMonopolic Radiation, which you have become as your invisible image in the mirror of spacetime is all pervasive or omnipresent; yet subject to your memory as yourself as experienced and perceived when you looked at yourself in a mirror say.

So you have become fluid in form, but all your intelligence and knowledge about your identity are still available, should you choose to constrict yourself in that form.


The stronger the memories and the desires to assume a more concrete form, the stronger will be the mindforce you can apply to manipulate the spacetime about your perceived environment.

The quality of your thinking now assumes a great importance.


Since the resonance with the source energy is the source frequency (fps), which is scripturally defined as the 'Love of God'; the closer you can approach or tune into that defining energy-state of the UFoQR, the more power you will have to create and manoeuvre yourself about the place where you find yourself or where you believe yourself to be.


Should you be able to generate a great mental desire to meet your 'loved ones', who have 'passed over', then their individuated EMMR-fields will be able to generate forms recognisable to you, subject to the amount of 'love- or sourceawareness' you can actually manifest as the 'angular acceleration of the spacequanta', which defines the 'force of your mind'.


But you must remember, that all your 'loved ones' are potential universes in their own right and being 'passed over' into the oneness of the ocean of the omnipresent EMMR field, they automatically gain this state of unification superimposed onto each and every individuated 'soul' as subset of the encompassing EMMR-'oversoul'.

You see, it is quite the opposite to be in disembodiment, than to be in embodiment.

When in embodiment; the individual 'soul' is subject to the environmental pressures of the body and the mind.


Young teenagers feel more at ease, when they can share in a 'peergroup mind', they shun individual responsibility and search for a sense of belonging and togetherness.

Similarly, certain sporting events can generate a huge amount of groupmind activity; either in supporting a team or participator or in a form of violence and hooliganism, when the sense of the 'group' assumes rather primitive aspects of the survival instinct in a pretext of a mindset of 'us against them'.


So there is a challenge in the embodied state to become a true individual; it is much easier to follow a preset agenda and to eschew a thinking for oneself.

The natural state of the embodiment is to be a member of a group or race or tribe or family or elite or corporation or business or state or land or nation or planet or galaxy or what have you.


The opposite is the case in the disembodied state of being; there the groupmind is automatic and the difference is, that that groupmind is in harmony with itself and its environs.


There is no 'us against them', because everything and everyone's awareness is as one.


But the great challenge in the 'passed over' state of being is to differentiate oneself from that overpowering state of unity - a 'heavenly' bliss of peace and harmony and being able to 'love' and 'feeling loved' within an energyfield 'resonating' with the 'love' of the source energy.


After having lived a sorrowful life in embodiment; the 'soul' has come home and finds itself in its natural state of freedom and able to choose any ethereal form it so chooses for as long or short a time as it may desire to experience.


So what is the point for the 'soul' as subset of the 'oversoul' and defined as the EMMR of the UFoQR to incarnate in embodiment in the first place and the first instance, one may ask?

Well, you see that is a quest for the 'soul' to seek for wisdom, knowledge and understanding through experience and for the ultimate purpose to become its own source of energy, able to sustain worlds within worlds within its own energy field.


Hence every 'soul' must learn to recognise its source in becoming aware of itself and where it comes from and where it has the potential to go to.

And this brings us back to the dying leaf, falling from its source of sustenance, which had been the twig on the branch on the tree throughout its short life of green lushness.

Upon physical death, the 'soul' or lifeenergy of the leaf returns exactly the same way, as it had come to energise the leaf, being born from its budding state of the defining DNA.


And so the EMMR-'soul' of the leaf flows as a natural electricity, defined in the equation of (I(fLeaf)=2NefLeaf), where N is a quantisation of the electropole (e) in 4D-linespace of embodiment, mapped as the magnetopole (e*) in 12D-omnispace of disembodiment and potentially realised in 13D-omnispace in a superembodiment.


The leaf's 'soul' so passes into the twig into the branch and into the stem of the tree, which appears like a great tunnel of light for the 'soul' and leading towards a source of a magnetic light, drawing the 'soul' towards itself and the 'Mirror of the Last Judgement'.

But the 'soul' must journey through the 'underworld', before it can enter the Hall of the Decisions, which harbours the 'Mirror of the True Selfhood'.


The 'soul' could get 'lost' in a branch of the tree say and unable to find its way to the trunk of the tree, where the magnetic force of the sourcelight illuminates every 'soul' however 'lost' it might perceive itself to be.


So there are markers along the way; signposts of remembrances, which the 'soul' can recognise in the form of 'loved ones', might these be people or pets or objects; all is subject to the 'force of the desire' and the intensity of emotion the soul can generate to journey with 'clear vision'.


All objects and things have frequency equivalents and are unbounded in space or time relative to the 'souls' partitioning as subset of the encompassing EMMR field of the UFoQR.


But all thoughts and desires, all nightmares and dreams of whatever nature will and must surface in the soul's journey through its 'underworld' of subconscious definition.

So if a thought of 'Saint Peter at the Pearly Gate' is the expectation, that thought or desire must eventuate; as must all imaginings of 'hellish damnation'.


Because of the fluidity of the disembodied state however, many guides and helpers of the oneness are always readily available to superimpose more energetic states of awareness, simply by being present in their state of enhanced frequencies and so able to modulate the eigenstate of a 'soul' lost in its nightmarish expectation of a torturous hell for example.


Some 'souls' may have no expectations of the afterlife at all; and those 'souls' will encounter their being engulfed in an impenetrable fog or mistyness or any such idea of nothingness.


Any question asked by such a 'soul' after having pondered its state of existence, will however modify its environment of the 'nothingness' and so it will be forced by its own curiosity to begin exploring its position in space and time, relative to its own perception.


Eventually, all 'souls' will reach the stem of the tree, where the magnetic light and the sense of being 'loved' is so strong, the individual 'soul' cannot but remember its unison and origin as part of the source and will just surrender to its grand homecoming out of space and time.


Since the sense of time and space is selfrelative for all disembodied states; a 'soul' could choose to spend 'eternity' in a 'fog of the nothingness', but it would require a mind unable to think a single thought and an inability to ask a single question about itself.


Furthermore such a 'soul' would have to concentrate 'eternally' upon a single state of being in an absolute state of nothingness, whatever it imagines that nothingness to be.


And because of Heisenbergian Uncertainty and the Quantum Fluctuations of the vacuum, such a position would be untenable, because the Zero-Point-Oscillation of the Source Energy is defined in the formulation (Eps=½hfps) as the minimum state of energy in any definition of the Zero state in energy - hence even the most stubborn 'soul' will have to 'suffer' its energisation by the source energy.



All 'souls' which have finished their journey through their individuated 'underworlds' and which have reached the trunk of the tree of life will find themselves rushing towards the magnetic sourcelight down the tunnel of the stem of the tree.


As a 'soul' reaches one of the roots of the tree, the tunnel converges and every root ends in the singularity of the 'Mustard Seed' at the termination of each and every root the 'soul' may have chosen to travel in towards the magnetic lightsource.

And so at the end of the tunnel, where any particular root of the tree ends the defined form of the tree of life; the 'soul' enters the 'Hall of Decisions' and sees itself positioned in front of the 'Mirror of the Last Judgment'.



Now in the 'Mirror of the Last Judgment' the 'soul' sees a most magnificent being; it is precisely the embodiment of beauty and glory the 'soul' could or would ever have imagined.


And the 'soul' realises that the mirror reflects the 'soul's' very own grandest idea of beauty and glory back to itself as the selfrealised being of itself.

But the being in the mirror, one might name it the 'Higher Self' or 'Overself' of the 'soul' is no mere image of the 'soul'.


The 'Oversoul' is as real as the 'soul' and in possesssion of all the knowledge, understanding and wisdom accumulated by the 'soul' in 19.11 billion years of experiencing consciousness as EMMR-subset of the encompassing EMMR of the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity.


And the 'Oversoul' smiles at the 'soul' and begins to talk:


"Hello my sweet me; you have finally come back to try to answer your own questions for yourself yet again; how will you fare this time, have you found your two keys to open the two locked doors within this mirror to allow you to enter the space of the parenthood in setting us free from being separated, both of us being reflections in each other in front and within or behind this mirror?


Have you allowed yourself to find the Key of Wisdom or the Key of Understanding?

Or perhaps you have found both in a single lifetime; now that would be a wonderful achievement.

You were close last time, you had the Key of Wisdom in your grasp, but you could not put it in the keyhole and then you decided to get it right the next time and that time has now come I see.


You know that the first key is the Key of Wisdom; finding it will allow you to apply the second key of the understanding.



The Key of Wisdom is the correct answer to the question: "WHO ARE YOU?" and the Key of Understanding cannot be applied until you have answered the first question to your own satisfaction and as judged by yourself as myself.

You will only allow yourself to ask the second question through myself once you have judged yourself competent enough to attempt the unlocking of the door of understanding.



And the only clue you allowed yourself to be given through myself is that the Key of Wisdom is part of your female nature and that the Key of Understanding is part of your male nature.


So let us recall what your answer to the question: "WHO ARE YOU?" was the last time we met ourselves in this very location, when you said:


"I know that I am more than what I appear to be.



I have learned that my 'family' extends past my immediate blood relationships and that I am also part of my environment.

So I am part of the air I breathe and part of the garden I keep.



I tune into familiar minds with my friends and acquaintances and I share many things with the people I love and with whom I feel comfortable with.

I am part of my children's education and the companies I keep in all my aspects of my life.

I do try to help other people and attempt to be friendly and polite to everyone, even if I do not like particulars about them."

You then answered yourself through me in saying:


"When we arrived at our common acknowledgement at the beginning of space and time and when we made the covenant between ourselves, we decided that a partial wisdom and a partial understanding would be insufficient to open the locked doors; so I must inform you as myself, that your wisdom has grown in magnitude and in insight, but still remains at an undergraduate level."

And now we are here again in the 'Hall of our decisions' and I ask myself through you:

"WHO ARE YOU? and WHO AM I?"


And the 'soul' answered:


'I am all that is; I must be; because if I were not all that is, the entire creation, then there would be something in existence, which I am not and that is impossible, as all things are connected.


Modern science has shown that everything, from the minutest photon to the largest supercluster of galaxies are quantum entangled with each other.

So a solar system or a planet and all beings living upon it, being part of a galaxy, must be quantum connected with everything else as well; any other conclusion leads to logical selfcontradictions.


Any system of particles, molecules, atoms or things can only exist in one of two modes of operation; the two modes are Unity in Separation or Separation in Unity.

Unity in Separation leads to the individuated self and the egocentric personality; one perceives oneself as a 'free individual', separated from all other such 'free individuals' and one can then so very easily deceive oneself in considering a 'fake equality or egalitarianism' between people, thinking that every individual has only themselves to blame, if their life's journey falls upon hard times.

Unity in Separation is the 'Devil's Way' exemplified in the saying: 'Divide and Conquer'; but since the 'Devil's Modus Operandi' is selfrelative and just as valid as the alternative it is always available to all the wisdom seekers.


And I know, that I am my own masterdevil; only I make the choices and only I set my own agendas; but as we also know, it is only I, that must judge myself as to the portfolios and the decisions, appropriate or not, which I have made during my life's journey.


Did I value wisdom over worldly possessions, as Solomon did?


Did I discover the empathy and the compassion for others and the affinities, connecting me to the web of life and the oneness of the universe?

In short, am I able to walk in another's moccassins, am I able to imagine myself to be someone else, to truly feel what they are all about on the level of their 'souls', whereby we are all one in the disembodied state?


So my dear Beloved 'Oversoul', I am the Creation in my female essence and I am the Creator in my male essence.


And I have chosen the 'Way of Love' in the modus operandi of the Separation in Unity.

I know that all is One and that I am operating as a servant of the 'Loving Way' in surrendering my 'individual freedom' to operate as a Unit of Separation for limited periods of time; choosing instead to become eternally bonded to my own loving nature and the source of all of my energy - my God.'





And the 'Oversoul' cried in exuberance, with tears of joy flowing down its glowing cheeks:


'Yes my darling you have found the Key of Wisdom and I am allowed to tell you now, that your sacrifice of your 'individual freedom' is no sacrifice at all, but serves an ultimate purpose in your graduation and your life as a parent in true brothersisterhood with 'our God'.


The Goddess will individuate in you upon your graduation and you shall be freedom personified.

God himself shall be your bridegroom and the Goddess herself your eternal bride.

And now you are ready for the second question from yourself to yourself; but know, that there is a growing percentage of ' souls', say 0.2% at the present time, who have found their Keys of Wisdom.


To the present time however, not one 'soul' could find the Key of Understanding.

The second question is: "WHY ARE YOU WHAT YOU ARE AND HOW DID YOU COME TO BE?"



The 'soul' pondered for a moment and said:


'I do not know the full answer to that yet, but I know how to obtain the Key of Understanding, because of the nature of this question.


I do know, that I am the creation-creator duality because on the supreme level of that partnership there is the essence of Family, our family and the idea of generational reproduction.


So I am destined to become a generator for an individuated universe, which can then join the sister-brotherhood of universes within the enveloping omniverse.

To generate myself as FatherMother and as my own individuated source energy in the footsteps of my cosmic and mathematically abstract parents, I shall have to bring their abstractness alive in realising them within and without myself in my dragonomy.


Somehow, to find the Key of Understanding, I shall have to learn in abstract terms, just what my mathematical and omniscientific archetypes are all about.


I can attempt to do this the 'easy way' or the ' hard way'.


If I choose to follow certain written manuals in an advanced mode of interpretation, such as 'sacred' scrolls and scriptures; then this will be the 'easy way' because of the metaphors and mythological language used in them.

If I am inclined however to do it the 'hard way', then I shall study mathematics and the sciences to obtain my understanding necessary to answer the second question fully and not only partially, as I have done.'




'You are very correct in you analysis', answered the 'Oversoul', you have given the appropriate reply as to why you are the creation and the creator in your sexual aspects and you have pinpointed the method of how to find the Key of Understanding.

You must create yourself in principle my sweetheart and you must find your place in the Book of Life, which you are required to write in coauthorship with what already has been written and what you are reading.


Once you are able to create your own Genesis, as your very own 'Naked Singularity' of abstraction, then you will be in possession of your perfectly fitting Key of Understanding.


The next time we meet, I feel you shall be able to set us free from being images of ourselves in the two of us separated ones trying to be one in two and two in one.' "


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#27936 10 minutes ago = March 8th, 2011 Arachne

I read Lita asking for healing for a cyst. You weren't asked for the other stuff. Either delete it and move it to your own thread (The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life) or I will. Don't even think about splattering your crap all over the forum.

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    #27938 28 minutes ago - March 9th, 2011 Arachne

    Would you like to explain why there are two of you signed up to the same account - one in Australia and one in the US, both on separate ip's. Also explain while you're at it, why you both show entering different forums at the same time.

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    The Reply to message #27938 to Steve, Camelot Forum Administrator and which could not be posted because of the banning:


    Sure dear Steve!

    As can be ascertained from the introductory message; we always worked in partnership as grandma arachne and as grandpa phoenix.
    This is why all posts were signed as Arachne or Phoenix or Arachne-Phoenix or Phoenix-Arachne.

    Apparently you do not like or give credence to the unification of things and the bringing together of the separatedness in the worlds of the beingness.

    Nevertheless, there are seven continents and they are all sisters in the umbrella of Gaia.

    Now there exist particular affiliations between those continents, say as effect of a common shared lineage or other 'inheritances' or 'birthrights'.

    The continents of Northern America and Australia form such a sisterhood in their linguistic inheritances and applications.

    So we felt it appropriate to display a supercontinental unity, without national boundaries of segregation; in working together in a symbol of shared responsibility within in a blended individuality.

    One day you will understand those deeper agendas of the spirit and the cosmic intelligences Steve.
    Meanwhile be well in your works on the forums and your unbiased and impartial administrations.

    Shalom from your Elders!


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    Re: Healing request~Lita

    #27939 0 minutes ago - March 9th, 2011 Steve wrote:
    Arachne

    I read Lita asking for healing for a cyst. You weren't asked for the other stuff. Either delete it and move it to your own thread (The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life) or I will. Don't even think about splattering your crap all over the forum.

    Steve


    Sorry if my post seems like an 'intrusion' to you Steve. I am feeling much animosity from the mods on this forum and find this very curious since i have not done anything wrong. I posted to Lita with all sincerity and from my heart, i am sorry you find it offensive and crap, that is a shame. I have not insulted anyone on this forum nor have I posted offensive material (unless you consider artwork offensive), rather information for the benefit of all. Nice welcome crew you have here (sarcasm). Or is this more like the dark ages and Philip's quest to murder and kill all the Templars?

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #27940 13 minutes ago - March 9th, 2011 Steve please check i have a problem with my ips currently have a range ban on other sites eg glp coming from somewhere in oz spam emails from unkown scources




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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #27941 13 minutes ago - March 9th, 2011 I see your US counterpart removed a portion of the their post in Lita's thread. I see you made the post in this thread. We've been aware of the both of you and your little game of tag team for some time. I'll not have anyone come in here to make fools out the members here. I've just been waiting to catch you both in the act and now I caught you both.

    Say Goodbye Arachne(s)

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #27942 10 minutes ago - March 9th, 2011 aw that was a long one...
    i was gonna ask about something else...
    haha
    ok who and what are we really then-
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    and what's in a name,right?




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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #27946 2 minutes ago - March 9th, 2011 who's been made fools then-
    if not myself-(haha)did i commit to some unwise action,did anyone?
    in other words,what's the problem,right?
    so they are other than what they say they are,is that what you're saying? if so,then how ?
    most people are in fact more than one person,-just ask dolores cannon,right?
    sorry steve,you're annoyed,i wouldn't wanna add to that or be responsible for other people's games...but these people (were) fun-perhaps there's more to the story...sorry-just nevermind i guess...and goodbye,dear arachnusses!




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    Re: The Arachne thread

    Post  Admin on Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:40 pm

    Steve,March 9th, 2011 (Admin)




    Steve please check i have a problem with my ips currently have a range ban on other sites eg glp coming from somewhere in oz spam emails from unkown scources


    Hi jmj

    I checked your current ip against several spam listings and have not found you on any of their lists.

    Plug - ip spam check - into Google and see what you come up with. Also, is the ip assigned to you static or dynamic?

    Steve

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    Jmj12,March 9th, 2011


    thanks steve will do and get back with more info i dont need to tell you me com skills are weak ,luckly iam awake ,i remember last time i visted a banned site i was refused entry for obsessive,compolsive IPS resetting







    arctourist,March 9th, 2011



    arachni,sorry i missed you,maybe you could post under your own separate names,new ones,and we can start fresh,i know the group has many questions!







    Lita,March 9th, 2011 (Moderator)



    Arctourist, that won't be possible..


    (Know that you are Love...Know that you are Loved & be at Peace on your journey )





    Chakra,March 9th, 2011 (Moderator)


    arctourist wrote:
    arachni,sorry i missed you,maybe you could post under your own separate names,new ones,and we can start fresh,i know the group has many questions!

    Seriously!
    man that is just really messed up! lol
    you know that was all just massive amounts of BS don't you?

    (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. -Plato )






    arctourist,March 9th, 2011


    hey lita
    why do you say that?
    say it isn't so!




    Lita,March 9th, 2011 (Moderator)


    All true, and if they do try to come back with more tricks ..out they go again..smoke and mirrors...all of it


    (Know that you are Love...Know that you are Loved & be at Peace on your journey)





    arctourist,March 9th, 2011



    Chakra wrote:
    Seriously!
    man that is just really messed up! lol
    you know that was all just massive amounts of BS don't you?


    so you don't like them,so i guess we're gonna be an exclusive club after all huh? -that seems a shame...i thought they were some cute kids,heck,they didn't mean any harm- heck,they were friendly enough,surely you noticed that much from all them words,yes-yes?






    Tbonyandsteak,March 9th, 2011


    I don't know what the fuzz about Arachne is about.
    In all fairness to her, I have say that to me she actually made sense in a weird and in a unexpected way. Intentionally or untentionally.
    Dont take life to seriously, it has to be lived, not be a victim of it.
    A very real, authentic importent lesson for me.
    Which I personly have forgotten in all the serious topics of this forum.
    Be a Spacecowboy!!

    Becourse of that I am still puzzled about her, she was a mystery to me.

    But offcourse the long answers she post does takes energy and dont always mean a lot dispite of that length.

    Chakra wrote:
    Seriously!
    man that is just really messed up! lol
    you know that was all just massive amounts of BS don't you?

    Was she banned becourse of BS?




    arctourist,March 9th, 2011


    yeah ,what were they banned for,exactly,right? ...........wouldn't wanna make the same mistake and be guilty of something without knowin' it right?






    Tbonyandsteak,March 9th, 2011



    Geuss there is noone that is bringing some light into this.
    Properly a taboo, based on a fear on some sort.






    Stargazer,March 9th, 2011 (Moderator)


    Steve wrote:

    Arachne

    Would you like to explain why there are two of you signed up to the same account - one in Australia and one in the US, both on separate ip's. Also explain while you're at it, why you both show entering different forums at the same time.

    Steve


    Guys...nothing to cover up here...We like to keep stuff above boards and as you see from Steve's post above...This is the reason Archne was banned.

    2 people were logging into the same account in 2 different countries and posting at the same time.

    This is against Camelot's policy of 1 user ...1 account.

    It's a deception in the MODs eyes...You think your are seeing the comments of one person and find that is not so.

    Above board.....The MOD Squad





    Tbonyandsteak,March 9th, 2011


    Well she did say she was in a group
    But that was literally

    Explains the Arachne-Phoenix she sometimes end her post with. :)





    Steve,March 9th, 2011 (Admin)




    But offcourse the long answers she post does takes energy and dont always mean a lot dispite of that length.

    Doesn't that strike as odd behavior? like they were pre-typed, ready for posting? Two people signed on to the same account - another oddity. Both posting the same material in different threads - odd? Baiting a mod with a post? I guess you wouldn't have seen that. Nor are you aware of the warnings they received for doing such a thing.

    Did you check out their site?

    The long and short of it is they were trolls and they were here to cause havoc. I've dealt with trolls more than a few times over the last 10 years on forums just like this one.

    Everybody posts about disinfo agents, trolls, spammers and general disruptors coming into forums and creating havoc for the sake of creating havoc. Some just to take down a forum, which is nothing more than a game to them. Can you not recognize when it happens here?

    This isn't the first time these games were played out on this forum and I doubt it'll be the last.

    Steve



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    Tbonyandsteak,March 9th, 2011


    Well as said she was a mystery to me.

    But I actual learned something from her dispite of that.
    That is actually rare for me. Becourse i am not into follow anything.

    No I have not seen there site, btw.
    That they are group, that have collected that amount of info/disinfo suggest it could be a sect of some sort.
    When do people learn just to say how it is, be open about it instead of hide it.
    So people do not feel themselfe misused of the hidden informations.

    About the long posts, attentions behavior? mentor behavior? surely pretexted. The moral behind it
    make the difference to me at least.
    Spamming
    Have something to share
    Playing
    Wisdom
    Attention


    I had a lot of discussion with trolls, that only want to insecure people.
    I dont mind that personaly, sense the game is obvious. So I just used it to learn to argue properly.
    Also becourse if my convictions is right, it has to be proven as right, trolls are great for that
    And the topics gets really covered.
    Like TOPIC: The definite proof thread (throw all you have at me)


    Just remember that it is still, just a game.

    Regards





    unplugged, March 9th, 2011


    I enjoyed the posts that made sense to me and shall miss Arachne.

    Thank you, Steve, for your diligence in moderating Camelot. Your work is appreciated.

    (Dwell in divine nonchalance )







    Chakra,March 9th, 2011 (Moderator)



    arctourist wrote:
    yeah ,what were they banned for,exactly,right? ...........wouldn't wanna make the same mistake and be guilty of something without knowin' it right?


    you? worried about being guilty! LOL

    Tbonyandsteak wrote:
    Was she banned because of BS?


    OF course not! sheesh....

    SpaceCowBoy still posts doesn't he! LOL

    (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. -Plato )




    arctourist


    well!
    so much for the secret of the extraterrestrial life huh?
    good job!



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    Re: The Arachne thread

    Post  Admin on Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:59 pm

    SuiGeneris,March 11th, 201



    This time it’s everything about the Thuban materials…



    This thread left many with unanswered questions and for the benefit of the readers; I will do my best to clarify certain things for further consideration. I will try to be as clear as I can for English is not my first language. Although I never posted, I’ve read this forum since its inception … but some things were said here that are not true, and after much deliberation with myself, I am now compelled to step in sideways and say something about it.



    Understanding Extraterrestrial Life is key to understanding not only about who and what exactly are these “Et’s” and everything about them, but most importantly…ourselves. Human beings have an innermost connection with them and there is not enough data out there that talks about this link in detail. But times are changing, and I feel it is time to take responsibility for not only seeking data pertaining to this and other equally important subjects, but also to share it with others if and when they feel they need to, as a way of helping the collective reach the information they need to reach…much faster.



    This has been the intention of both Phoenix and Arachne when they decided to come to Camelot: to share. I only became aware of this thread a few days ago, and if I would’ve been asked my opinion, I would not have agreed to the way the postings were being made (with the double signature) not because I find anything wrong with it, but because I knew the Mods would not like it and would undoubtedly use it against the material itself. Ended up I was right but only as far as the Mods go, for I can now see the war of the archetypes… of the new “eating” the old. Nevertheless, and not to lose focus here, there was never the intention to hide the teamwork; hence the double signature was used since the first page of this thread. There was never an intention of deceiving anyone as Steve said. I know them both Phoenix and Arachne. They are my friends, and I have to say both of them are kind, giving people and definitely not trolls or anything of the like.



    Sadly there are forum “rules”, and rules are not meant to be broken… or are they? I say sadly because if people were civilized enough we would be living in a rule-free society without the need for someone to enforce anything upon us, but that is not the case…at least not yet. So what are we left with? The Modsquad police. Steve said they were issued multiple warnings, and that is just not true, at least not pertaining to the exact reason later used to ban them.




    Stargazer said:

    2 people were logging into the same account in 2 different countries and posting at the same time.

    This is against Camelot's policy of 1 user ...1 account.

    It's a deception in the MODs eyes...You think your are seeing the comments of one person and find that is not so.




    It may very well be against the “rules” but it’s not a deception because those comments were shared by both posters, simple as that. It was all a tech issue, since both do live in different parts of the world. We can go into the “technicalities” of the forum rules… but it won’t do much good, because at least for me, the most important thing here is that information was being shared, and now it’s not. And I ask you…ultimately who benefits from this? Who suffers the consequences of censorship? Who gets to decide this? Why? And is this fair to everyone?



    This “rules” scenario is “old world” and it has to die, in fact is IS dying already.




    Lita said: All true, and if they do try to come back with more tricks ..out they go again..smoke and mirrors...all of it



    The only smoke here is the smokescreen used to filter out what is not wanted out of FEAR, and this doesn’t apply only to forums… you can see it everywhere in society.



    Whatever happened to free speech? Steve decided to ban using the “rules were broken” excuse, but I feel that ultimately fear was the main reason. Perhaps fear of the unknown, fear of the PTB agents, infiltrators and god forbid, fear of the “evil dragons”. Although these kinds of ppl do have their own chaotic agenda, Phoenix/Abraxas is not one of them. He called the Thuban material “crap” only because he did not understand it, but that does not mean no one else does. Moreover… it doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be shared in this forum either because this in itself goes against the principles of Camelot.



    Steve said:

    Doesn't that strike as odd behavior? like they were pre-typed, ready for posting?




    Some information was already typed as it was posted on our Thuban forums, they simply wanted to share the data so copy pasting it was the easiest method, and it was included only when it was appropriate to do so and within context with what was being discussed.




    Two people signed on to the same account - another oddity.




    One saw no need to create a separate account when the other was already there. No big mystery here, but if you still had your doubts you simply should’ve asked them. You did actually, but banned them faster than the speed of light without even giving them the chance to post an answer to your question.



    Both posting the same material in different threads - odd?



    I think the post to Lita was relevant. It was meant for her to read and make what she will of it, for if she would’ve understood it, it would’ve helped her. But you saw it as crap, decided to pass judgment, label it as such, threaten and do your bidding. However, Phoenix later said he would not have answered Lita’s thread, this was Arachne’s own decision. Yes, each of them have their own minds, and as much as people mistake the word Thuban with a cult, it is nothing of the sort. There is no one mentality, no leaders and no followers. Each one is free to interpret their own inner Logos and to live accordingly. In fact this is exactly what being a dragon means.



    Baiting a mod with a post?




    Misjudgment again. There was never any baiting. You are projecting your own insecurities.




    I guess you wouldn't have seen that.



    What kind of remark is this? Only you can “see”? Everybody else is blind by default?



    Nor are you aware of the warnings they received for doing such a thing.



    This is not true. There was never any so called “warnings” for posting the same material in different threads or having two people signed onto the same account. Because this is what you are referring to when you say “such a thing” right? The rest is mere speculation and fear based insinuations.

    There were only 2 messages/e-mails Arachne received from Camelot. The first one from Chakra on February 23rd informing her that her thread was moved to a different location, and the second one from Stargazer asking her to please refrain from posting pictures of nudity. (Since surprisingly those 2 cartoon-like art /pictures were found “offensive”)



    Did you check out their site?




    I’m sure you did…while in your “police duties”, desperately trying to find something “incriminating” to use against the “evil infiltrators”….



    The long and short of it is



    Are you to “enlighten” us all as to what the long and short of it is? Is this really how you feel? For if you do, you have some serious ego issues to sort out.



    they were trolls and they were here to cause havoc.



    Of course… the never failing “conclusion”. YOUR conclusion. But you are mistaken. Phoenix is not a troll and he wasn’t here to cause any havoc.



    I've dealt with trolls more than a few times over the last 10 years on forums just like this one.




    No need to mention your resume, your actions and words speak for themselves… and this supposedly “experience” in dealing with these matters failed you miserably this time.



    Everybody posts about disinfo agents, trolls, spammers and general disruptors coming into forums and creating havoc for the sake of creating havoc. Some just to take down a forum, which is nothing more than a game to them. Can you not recognize when it happens here? This isn't the first time these games were played out on this forum and I doubt it'll be the last. Steve



    You use the position you have to influence other’s opinion. You manipulate. You are neither a hero nor the protector of “Camelot’s honor”, imho, you’re just a “Richard” in disguise.



    Here was your question:

    why there are two of you signed up to the same account - one in Australia and one in the US, both on separate ip's. Also explain while you're at it, why you both show entering different forums at the same time.



    Here is the answer:


    The Reply to message #27938 to Steve, Camelot Forum Administrator and which could not be posted because of the banning:





    Sure dear Steve!



    As can be ascertained from the introductory message; we always worked in partnership as grandma arachne and as grandpa phoenix.

    This is why all posts were signed as Arachne or Phoenix or Arachne-Phoenix or Phoenix-Arachne.



    Apparently you do not like or give credence to the unification of things and the bringing together of the separatedness in the worlds of the beingness.



    Nevertheless, there are seven continents and they are all sisters in the umbrella of Gaia.




    Now there exist particular affiliations between those continents, say as effect of a common shared lineage or other 'inheritances' or 'birthrights'.



    The continents of Northern America and Australia form such a sisterhood in their linguistic inheritances and applications.



    So we felt it appropriate to display a supercontinental unity, without national boundaries of segregation; in working together in a symbol of shared responsibility within in a blended individuality.



    One day you will understand those deeper agendas of the spirit and the cosmic intelligences Steve.

    Meanwhile be well in your works on the forums and your unbiased and impartial administrations.



    Shalom from your Elders!






    Phoenix-Arachne




    Now,

    I never promote one forum over another, ppl are free to read or join wherever they please.

    I do not join a forum to be part of the “in crowd” or to be popular, although I am very social

    and happy to make new acquaintances, that is not the main purpose for me to be “everywhere”, as I feel it’s not the purpose of the many lurkers who never become members of the forums they read. The main reason is to find information and share it…and this principle has been compromised here in this thread.




    Kerry, Isn’t there a place for Thuban material in this forum? I’m sure there is, for I know you are as much pro free speech as I am and that is one of the reasons I’ve always supported you. In fact you never agreed with the closing of the Thuban thread back in PA1, and even you and Tommy became members of Abraxas’ forum back in May of last year after being invited to do so shortly after his ban. I forwarded this invitation in the form of an e-mail from Abraxas myself, and I was happy to see your open mindness.



    For all those visual learners out there, here’s a picture to illustrate: www.themistsofavalon.net/t1810p345-meanw...t-avalonpart-1#14454



    But if one is not careful the same errors will be made… just look at the latest Avalon meltdown. Do not make the same mistake Bill made letting the wrong person take complete control of your forum little by little. I know it’s none of my business, but if I were you and would need to have one Super Admin in Camelot... I sincerely would not trust anyone other than Tommy. Abraxas was banned from Avalon exactly one year ago on March 9th 2010 and now from Camelot March 9th 2011…this is not a coincidence...



    To the readers in general I say this: A mod is not some “high priest” that needs your adoration, they are people just like you and me, and make mistakes. Yes they volunteer, but that should not give them the right to decide for others what is worth reading or not. That should always be strictly left to the individual.



    And to the Modsquad Police here I say this: Forums do not belong to the founders…much less to the Mods. Forums belong to the members…and we are not blind.



    Do we really need this kind of “reminders”?:




    “Just a note to for people to remember when you read any information to come from your inner truth and your own power base...”



    To me this feels like:

    “Just a reminder for people to remember to brush their teeth with fluoride toothpaste 6 times a day. It’s good for you…”



    It is already self understood that each one will do with the information what they will and that each one will know how to filter it their own way. Isn’t it? I mean, I would assume Camelot readership is not exactly at high school level. If you know anything about measuring energy, something like this feels more like a warning than a reminder. Unfortunately, some people let themselves be influenced by the Mods’ words and the Mods know this, but instead of being responsible with their comments… they choose to manipulate with their opinions. Very sad to witness… So be it.



    Kerry, I am not here to tell you how to run your forum, but although you may not need it, I’ll give you this advice anyway: keep an eye on your crew. Do not let the spirit of Camelot become infiltrated with power trips lest Camelot suffer the same fate as Avalon…



    In the Vesica,




    Sui



    ("Because of a great love, one is courageous" Lao Tzu)


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    Re: The Arachne thread

    Post  Admin on Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:13 pm

    Stargazer,March 11th, 2011 (Moderator)


    I'm speaking just for me......

    One person....One voice

    When I moderate....I take my ego and put it aside and read things with an detached view.

    It was decided by all the Moderators that profane words and images of nudity would not be displayed on the forum.

    That's just how it is....We believe as a group that early teens could wander in seeking enlightenment and we as a group did not want them exposed to that.

    And we hear..."well they see and hear that everyday in their lives"

    We know that....but when the bar is lowered....it is so hard to raise it back.

    We see that everyday in the media.

    This place should be different.....a place that flies in the face of the havoc of the outside world.

    Onto the subject of the nudity warning.....I did take down the art depicting a bare breasted female draped over a pentagram.

    After I did that....I then thought would I take down the Birth of Venus by botticelli





    I answered....I couldn't ...not personally

    I was wrong in looking back....you are right...not so much cartoon-ish....but it was art and I should have left it.

    On your comment that we "need to be kept an eye on lest we suffer the same fate as Avalon"

    Doing this job as a Mod is tedious at times and without compensation....

    For me...it not power of life and death over the members here...it is my way of giving back for what Bill and Kerry have done for me.

    They opened my eyes.

    My suggestion Sui....If Phoenix\Arachne had emailed Steve and Kerry and said...."Hey we are going to have 2 folks using this account and here's why"....I'm sure everything would have worked out.

    And probably still will.

    SG





    arctourist,March 11th, 2011


    SuiGeneris wrote:

    ...... (quoting her)


    beautiful
    couldn't agree more,or have said it so well
    and i would hope to hear from those so-called-by steve trolls again,and that they'd get a proper apology for the misunderstanding and disruption of the flow of the forum like that...
    if you asked me,when there's any doubt,don't intervene,leave it be....
    but yeah...all is forgiven-
    i would say from now on,everyone don't do anything that's not your highest passion or whatever you wanna call it...
    myself,i'm just hearing about the tsunami and i hope everyone'll be alright...





    siriusblue,March 11th, 2011



    I have just caught up! I tried reading the Rooster post a few days ago but I couldn't do it, information overload just like Unplugged. I come back and it's all stopped which might be a good thing because I'd never have been able to catch up.

    I finally read the Rooster material and I agree with Unplugged's beautiful description of it, it sang to me! LOL
    It is interesting though and I now have the answer to why I am here! I AM part of the reflection of the rooster trying to make my way back home! Ha ha ha!
    There's a weird mix of religions when I put all your posts together, one minute quoting the Bible, the next signing off with a Jewish greeting. Which religion teaches the Rooster fable? I'd be interested in knowing that!

    The rest of us have the courage to stand in our own light/religion and make statements/post information quite legitimately, freedom of speech is respected and we earn the respect of our fellow members through our individual efforts. We are also aware and open to the fact that some people might want to find out more about us. Why do you hide? What are you hiding?

    We don't use or need a group of friends behind us to add their bit to the equation, they are here online, each with their own special spark of light to shine on matters! Why would your friends want to hide? Can you not shine on your own?

    1 user = 1 account. Why can't you accept that rule and abide by it?

    To pretend to be more intelligent by using a pre-prepared collection of information and stating it with a 'pretense' one voice - although we had noticed the Arachne-Phoenix, Phoenix-Arachne, Arachne signatures - is not very brave or truthful of you.

    To do so again and again and again on different forums, from which you have eventually been banned shows really poor strategy and ability to understand that maybe your form of sharing this information is indigestible. To be honest, if it is so important and there is so much of it, I recommend you start your own website and let people come to you that way.

    As I said right at the beginning, by posting such long posts you do not give us the opportunity to query elements. And many elements in those first posts were FALSE. I know there is no black hole in the planet, the information you posted is littered with mistakes where I can actually decipher it and I still haven't found a definition of crossinduce. You've made that word up!

    I think Steve has done the right thing in bringing down the guillotine on this many tongued little spider but he has taken away some of the fun we were having.

    I agree with Stargazer taking down the two initial nudes that wouldn't make it further than a poster shop for teenagers decorating their bedrooms. They was just cheap rubbish and you can keep them for your own bedroom walls.

    Looking forward to an intelligent conversation with one of you, in which I can sense it is you talking and not some mish-mash copy and paste put together by an AI program someone built in the 90s and you've found and resurrected in the 2010s (is that the allusion to Phoenix?)

    Love and light,

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    This is what I wrote to someone on SKYPE about his subject:

    [8:27:42 AM] stargazer_now: To understand that you don't believe in something makes it still okay
    [8:27:58 AM] stargazer_now: AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT IMPOSE ON OTHERS

    I don't believe in this stuff and don't care to....but it still has the right to be heard and read.

    And if they broke into 2 users...Phoenix and Arachne....I don't see an issue

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    SuiGeneris

    Where was it publicly stated that two people would be using one account? Where was it even clarified as such so that the members knew exactly who made the post and who they were replying to or where the material even came from? This was the first act of deception. Everything beyond that extends from that deception, which begs the question, where did the honesty begin?

    Censorship - that's a good one. Guess that's why their thread is still visible on the boards for the whole world to see, including I might add, the links to the website where the material was pulled from.

    Guess everyone has a decision to make.

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    How much raising of consciousness can be gained by deception ..how much truth is in deception..

    Questions that don't require an answer.


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    arctourist wrote:well!
    so much for the secret of the extraterrestrial life huh?
    good job!


    Where actually did ANY of that occur? What 'secrets' were even there?
    The topic was off-topic from the beginning!
    Which is totally were I was going to put all this gibberish from the start.

    I would have as I have with others that are off-topic - BUT I tried - against better judgment to give 'them' the benefit of the doubt.

    Pointless really, with people with an agenda.


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    The topic was off-topic from the beginning!
    Which is totally were I was going to put all this gibberish from the start.


    Yes, but, we couldn't because it was off-topic, even for the "Off Topic" forum.

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    Re: The Arachne thread

    Post  Admin on Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:23 pm

    SuiGeneris,March 11th, 2011



    Siriusblue:



    We don't use or need a group of friends behind us to add their bit to the equation, they are here online, each with their own special spark of light to shine on matters! Why would your friends want to hide? Can you not shine on your own?

    They do not want to hide, and yes each one does shine on their own.



    1 user = 1 account. Why can't you accept that rule and abide by it?

    If you are asking the group as a whole, you are going to have to ask each individual one, for each have their own opinion on pretty much about everything. If you want to know what I personally think of the matter I can tell you that by default I do not accept or abide by any “rule”. I do what I consider best at the time based on my own criteria, logic, feelings and intuition.



    To pretend to be more intelligent by using a pre-prepared collection of information and stating it with a 'pretense' one voice -


    Using a “pre-prepared collection of information” as you call it, does not make anyone any more intelligent.



    although we had noticed

    Who exactly is “we”?



    the Arachne-Phoenix, Phoenix-Arachne, Arachne signatures - is not very brave or truthful of you.

    Imagine two of your friends are in agreement about a subject, and have decided to come talk to you about it, and both of them sit down and say the same thing to you…. How is this not “very brave” or “truthful” in your eyes?



    To do so again and again and again on different forums, from which you have eventually been banned

    Here you are implying that this specific situation has happened before on numerous occasions and that is a lie. Abraxas was not banned from Avalon due to his signature.




    shows really poor strategy and ability to understand that maybe your form of sharing this information is indigestible.

    You not understanding his “strategy” if anything …does not make “it” poor. Each has their own way of doing things and sharing data is no different.



    To be honest, if it is so important and there is so much of it, I recommend you start your own website and let people come to you that way.

    There is already a house of dragons and the data is already “out there” to be found.



    As I said right at the beginning, by posting such long posts you do not give us the opportunity to query elements.

    I dislike very lengthy posts myself, with the exception of course when I am being so immersed into something I like or a subject I find fascinating that I don’t care how long it is, on the contrary, the more I dig… the more I find out..the more I want to know…the more I want to read. But this is just me. I don’t know about anyone else. As far as you not being given the opportunity to “query elements”, you could’ve asked all the questions you wanted. There was nothing that prevented you, at least not from Phoenix’s side to do so. Unless perhaps you simply didn’t know what to ask or how, and that is strictly your issue and nobody else’s.



    And many elements in those first posts were FALSE.


    Can you quote which ones and how they were false to you?



    I know there is no black hole in the planet, the information you posted is littered with mistakes where I can actually decipher it

    Apparently you don’t even know where you are. Gaia not only has a black hole/Stargate at her core like all other planets and stars, but it is THE black hole of the entire Universe. She is a SinkSource receiver of information soon to “flip” and become a transmitter after the birth. You have a “black hole” inside of you too. Your Merkabah, your “chariot of light” has one. Nassim Haramein explains this very well.

    Here are some links that might help you:

    www.birthofgaia.com/t176-nassim-haramein-correspondences#2535

    www.birthofgaia.com/t15p75-the-galactic-...gs-and-questions#837




    and I still haven't found a definition of crossinduce. You've made that word up!

    I think crossinduce means that “it”, whatever is being crossed-induced can be altered in many different ways, not just in one way or in a linear way. I haven’t even read this entire thread completely so I don’t even know the context in which this particular word was used. However, I myself love to make up new words every now and then… why not? Language is alive. It morphs, it’s dynamic…it is there to be used to convey ideas and changes along with humans. So long I make myself understood, everything goes in my book. Remember, “only one word to the wise is sufficient.”




    I think Steve has done the right thing in bringing down the guillotine on this many tongued little spider but he has taken away some of the fun we were having.

    What you “think” about the banning is only relevant to you. Spiders are special creatures… In archetype, they are architects… they build… much like Ariadne, the “holy one” built her dream world in the movie Inception. She built a maze, a Matrix in which to operate… very necessary and important job.



    I agree with Stargazer taking down the two initial nudes that wouldn't make it further than a poster shop for teenagers decorating their bedrooms. They was just cheap rubbish and you can keep them for your own bedroom walls.

    Images/art‘s worth… is highly subjective.



    Looking forward to an intelligent conversation with one of you, in which I can sense it is you talking and not some mish-mash copy and paste put together by an AI program someone built in the 90s and you've found and resurrected in the 2010s (is that the allusion to Phoenix?)

    Writings…ideas put into paper, like the gospels or a good piece of literature or even someone’s poem should never be valued by their age. Words are not like wine, they don’t get better or worse for that matter…with age. The mish mash conclusion is yours alone and if you decide to dismiss something right off the bat because it does nothing to you, then by all means do so. You may not be ready for it.



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    Re: The Arachne thread

    Post  Admin on Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:28 pm


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    SuiGeneris:

    Behaps it was this discussion we should had had from the beginning to clarify questions about this.

    I do not mind tales and there are many tales with fine wisdom in it, the problem here is that it is underlined that you guys represents PTB.
    That would be an red flag for most people.
    Also this is a red flag:
    What you “think” about the banning is only relevant to you. Spiders are special creatures… In archetype, they are architects… they build… much like Ariadne, the “holy one” built her dream world in the movie Inception. She built a maze, a Matrix in which to operate… very necessary and important job.

    In nordic mythology there are 3 Norner I believe they were called, they also spinned, that was people destiny they spinned.
    Not really a benevolent what that shows if you go along that symbolism.
    When you know that the real purposse is to be in our full potential.

    It would be great to clarify all that kind of questions, you guys should had played your card more openly and answered more clearly.
    Becourse this topic is so filled with hidden and multiple meanings.


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    Where was it publicly stated that two people would be using one account?

    Where is it publicly stated that it needs to be publicly stated?





    Where was it even clarified as such so that the members knew exactly who made the post and who they were replying to or where the material even came from?

    Members knew exactly who made each post because each contained a signature. They knew as much as I or any other reader “knows” who the poster is. That is, I don’t “know” who they are…all I see is an Avatar and a handle and what they say… nothing else. If you mean readers not knowing exactly which one of the two replied to them or which one of the two they were addressing, it would not have made any difference as far as the purpose of the data transfer because even though they are both individuals and have their own ways of expressing themselves… the specific ideas they were conveying were the same. The picture is you standing in a room in front of 2 people and they’re both telling you the same thing.






    This was the first act of deception.

    This was not an act of deception. It was what it was. You just did not like it and choose to call it that.



    Everything beyond that extends from that deception,

    What exactly is “everything beyond that”? Are you talking about content?

    As far as I know you banned them as soon as you saw they were breaking some forum “rules”, without one warning about it or even giving them the chance to answer your question. You simply decided and said:


    I've just been waiting to catch you both in the act and now I caught you both.



    Say Goodbye Arachne(s)




    Showing to the world how “slick and competent” you think you are in your “troll-hunt” without even meaning what say, for you did not even give them any time to say their “goodbyes”



    which begs the question, where did the honesty begin?

    Imho, this is the wrong question to ask because the issue of true honesty has nothing to do with anything here. As Stargazer said:



    If Phoenix\Arachne had emailed Steve and Kerry and said...."Hey we are going to have 2 folks using this account and here's why"....I'm sure everything would have worked out.



    And probably still will.

    Point is, they were never given the chance to “be honest” as you call it with the Mod Police. You silenced them…and now you are asking where the honesty is?






    Censorship - that's a good one.

    No it’s not good. The word censorship, used in this context… is FEAR…nothing else.





    Guess that's why their thread is still visible on the boards for the whole world to see, including I might add, the links to the website where the material was pulled from.

    You guessed wrong. The thread “is still visible on the board for the whole world to see” not because you did not censor anything. This thread is here because you would not have been able to explain its sudden “disappearance" and because hiding information goes against the very principles of Camelot.



    What is more, threads do not “belong” to the people who start them. They cannot impose any individual “rule” as to the way a thread will go, and they shouldn’t either. No one should be able to influence anyone else in their thinking.






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    Questions that don't require an answer.



    This here is an attempt by Lita to do just that.







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    Re: The Arachne thread

    Post  Didymos on Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:37 am


    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28489 3 hours, 29 minutes ago - March 11th, 2001 Chakra wrote:
    Where actually did ANY of that occur? What 'secrets' were even there?
    The topic was off-topic from the beginning!
    Which is totally were I was going to put all this gibberish from the start.

    I would have as I have with others that are off-topic - BUT I tried - against better judgment to give 'them' the benefit of the doubt.

    Pointless really, with people with an agenda.


    There is no "them" separate from you. If there is to be an "us", i would call it a family.

    We are a new type of family... the Starhuman family, in that we respect each one's individuality and have no common rule since there is no need for it. Each is responsible for their own actions and there's no group mentality. The only thing that unites us is the love of and for the Cosmic Logos.

    There is no "agenda." People should really stop being so paranoid about the "dark lords" and their minions and begin looking at themselves in order to help the world "ascend" or escape the Matrix or finding out who they are...if that is their intention.


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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28490 3 hours, 20 minutes ago - March 11th, 2001 SuiGeneris wrote:
    Siriusblue:

    We don't use or need a group of friends behind us to add their bit to the equation, they are here online, each with their own special spark of light to shine on matters! Why would your friends want to hide? Can you not shine on your own?
    They do not want to hide, and yes each one does shine on their own.

    Then let each one register individually and add their light to the rainbow here.

    1 user = 1 account. Why can't you accept that rule and abide by it?
    If you are asking the group as a whole, you are going to have to ask each individual one, for each have their own opinion on pretty much about everything. If you want to know what I personally think of the matter I can tell you that by default I do not accept or abide by any “rule”. I do what I consider best at the time based on my own criteria, logic, feelings and intuition.

    I am an anarchist, I could never accept to be a part of Abraxas' group defending someone else's point of view. There are certain rules that are followed as a sign of respect to the others in the community you wish to be a part of, if Abraxas wishes to be a part of this community, let him join and stand on his own merits.

    To pretend to be more intelligent by using a pre-prepared collection of information and stating it with a 'pretense' one voice -
    Using a “pre-prepared collection of information” as you call it, does not make anyone any more intelligent.

    My point exactly.

    although we had noticed
    Who exactly is “we”?

    OK, I'll confess, 'I' noticed.

    the Arachne-Phoenix, Phoenix-Arachne, Arachne signatures - is not very brave or truthful of you.
    Imagine two of your friends are in agreement about a subject, and have decided to come talk to you about it, and both of them sit down and say the same thing to you…. How is this not “very brave” or “truthful” in your eyes?

    But it was neither Phoenix nor Arachne's opinion was it. It is, from your own admission below Abraxas'.
    By using different names in different posts, the contributors have been changing their light at their whim. This makes it difficult for us to know who we are going to get an answer from and for what...
    Actually, I'll be honest with you (again), it became very apparent to me that there were two colours, Arachne was light, Phoenix was dark - Arachne was religion and faith and pretty honest, Phoenix was science, maths and ambiguity. We never got to see Phoenix on his own, I guess you save that for the science forums, only going by the 'science' published so far, you wouldn't get past the front door.


    To do so again and again and again on different forums, from which you have eventually been banned
    Here you are implying that this specific situation has happened before on numerous occasions and that is a lie. Abraxas was not banned from Avalon due to his signature.

    Nor was 'he' banned from here due to his signature. In fact, his signature was never seen.

    shows really poor strategy and ability to understand that maybe your form of sharing this information is indigestible.
    You not understanding his “strategy” if anything …does not make “it” poor. Each has their own way of doing things and sharing data is no different.

    Abraxas? I've never heard of him before. I just did a search on Abraxas and I find this:
    "As the initial spelling on stones was 'Abrasax' (Αβρασαξ), the spelling of 'Abraxas' seen today probably originates in the confusion made between the Greek letters Sigma and Xi in the Latin transliteration." (Source: Wikipedia)
    So he started in confusion, writes in confusion and ends in confusion. This now makes it far more clear to me!
    What was strange and bizarre in all the answers were the sudden changes in topic with no clear path leading from one point to the other. The quantity was a blatant attempt to hide the many lies within from being picked out and shone under the light of truth.



    To be honest, if it is so important and there is so much of it, I recommend you start your own website and let people come to you that way.
    There is already a house of dragons and the data is already “out there” to be found.

    Soooooooooooooo, Queen of Dragons of the House of Dragons - why post here? Members on this forum seem to me to be particularly clear sighted and keen minded, very capable seekers and if they want this information they will come to you or are already visiting your site. They are also very capable of sharing the information they think is pertinent to the discussions we are having on these boards. If they thought it important enough, they would have put your name, except until now we didn't have one, on the suggestions for people to interview.

    As I said right at the beginning, by posting such long posts you do not give us the opportunity to query elements.
    I dislike very lengthy posts myself, with the exception of course when I am being so immersed into something I like or a subject I find fascinating that I don’t care how long it is, on the contrary, the more I dig… the more I find out..the more I want to know…the more I want to read. But this is just me. I don’t know about anyone else.

    You have come to the right place. We all like doing that here

    As far as you not being given the opportunity to “query elements”, you could’ve asked all the questions you wanted. There was nothing that prevented you, at least not from Phoenix’s side to do so. Unless perhaps you simply didn’t know what to ask or how, and that is strictly your issue and nobody else’s.

    Nooooooooooooo! I had plenty more questions and would have had no hesitation in asking. I'd only got as far as the first diagram!

    And many elements in those first posts were FALSE.
    Can you quote which ones and how they were false to you?

    The first diagram. The black hole in the center of the planet is FALSE. It cannot exist until all of earth has been squashed within the Schwarzschild Radius - Seeing as it is your Abraxas' statement that linked the black hole to the Schwarzschild radius, he and you should at least know that.
    Abraxas (so not Arachne and not Phoenix then?) also included the energy field which cannot be included in the Schwarzschild Radius - so that's another FALSE statement.
    The word crossinduce, so liberally sprinkled into the text I was thinking of swapping it with 'mirage' to see if it made more sense, is a word that does not exist. So I presume from that, that every part which talks of CROSSINDUCING is FALSE - it is certainly very confusing and, I found, rather depressing reading.
    I was going to get back to that...once I had a definition of crossinducing.
    I'm still on the first diagram here, and that one word. So you see, I had plenty more to explore and I'm sure I would have found plenty more holes in his exposition.


    I know there is no black hole in the planet, the information you posted is littered with mistakes where I can actually decipher it
    Apparently you don’t even know where you are. Gaia not only has a black hole/Stargate at her core like all other planets and stars, but it is THE black hole of the entire Universe. She is a SinkSource receiver of information soon to “flip” and become a transmitter after the birth. You have a “black hole” inside of you too. Your Merkabah, your “chariot of light” has one. Nassim Haramein explains this very well.
    Here are some links that might help you:

    www.birthofgaia.com/t176-nassim-haramein-correspondences#2535
    www.birthofgaia.com/t15p75-the-galactic-...gs-and-questions#837

    I will explore. I don't promise to believe a word of it. Especially as your Abraxas is so wrong about the Schwarzschild radius and how it works.
    If you had spent more time exploring this forum before posting, you would also know we are all aware of stargates, we know there are more than one on this planet and they are not in the core! There may be one in the core, but how do you know that? How does Nasseim know that? I've never heard of the 'galactic confederation of worlds' and, as with all these 'galactic (con)federations', we (myself, Kerry, Bill and many other members on this forum) are treating them with cautious respect until proven to exist.


    and I still haven't found a definition of crossinduce. You've made that word up!
    I think crossinduce means that “it”, whatever is being crossed-induced can be altered in many different ways, not just in one way or in a linear way. I haven’t even read this entire thread completely so I don’t even know the context in which this particular word was used. However, I myself love to make up new words every now and then… why not? Language is alive. It morphs, it’s dynamic…it is there to be used to convey ideas and changes along with humans. So long I make myself understood, everything goes in my book. Remember, “only one word to the wise is sufficient.”

    It's great fun to make up words. I created one too once but usually, when wanting to share information, it is best to stick to words people know and understand so that everyone is on the same footing. If you think 'it' means 'being altered', then maybe you could suggest to Abraxas he use that term instead.

    I think Steve has done the right thing in bringing down the guillotine on this many tongued little spider but he has taken away some of the fun we were having.
    What you “think” about the banning is only relevant to you. Spiders are special creatures… In archetype, they are architects… they build… much like Ariadne, the “holy one” built her dream world in the movie Inception. She built a maze, a Matrix in which to operate… very necessary and important job.

    A matrix: an illusion created by a computer.
    A maze: "confusing, intricate network of winding pathways; specifically with one or more blind alleys" (Webster definition) Every one of us who got involved here was happy to explore the maze, knowing it was such.
    A web... usually followed by the words 'of lies' or 'of deceipt'.


    I agree with Stargazer taking down the two initial nudes that wouldn't make it further than a poster shop for teenagers decorating their bedrooms. They was just cheap rubbish and you can keep them for your own bedroom walls.
    Images/art‘s worth… is highly subjective.

    I don't think they're in any art gallery. The later images were beautiful and I have downloaded some to keep.

    Looking forward to an intelligent conversation with one of you, in which I can sense it is you talking and not some mish-mash copy and paste put together by an AI program someone built in the 90s and you've found and resurrected in the 2010s (is that the allusion to Phoenix?)
    Writings…ideas put into paper, like the gospels or a good piece of literature or even someone’s poem should never be valued by their age. Words are not like wine, they don’t get better or worse for that matter…with age. The mish mash conclusion is yours alone and if you decide to dismiss something right off the bat because it does nothing to you, then by all means do so. You may not be ready for it.

    Actually, there's been quite a lot about the King James version of the Bible being one of the most important documents to contribute to the English language. The mish-mash is your Abraxas' own creation. Selectively answering on key words he's pasted into your out-of-date computer program. I particularly enjoyed it when your machine picked up on 'milk' in unplugged's answer. That was really bizarre.

    Be well,

    Sui


    It's nice talking to a person Sui, and one who has the guts to stand up for the Abrasax-Arachne-Phoenix trio. Tell me more about your Queen of Dragons status, I am curious.

    Love and light,

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28501 2 hours, 6 minutes ago - March 11th, 2001 ... sense that my opinion on some of this is going to get me booted... Expressing discomfort with that.

    (So far as my past reading on this forum is concerned; I have found both Tommy and Steve to be fair minded, level headed, reasonable and professional in their handling of any issues which have arisen. THIS is why I finally decided to actually join in by signing up. If they were not 'in charge' I would not have done so...)

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28511 1 hour, 19 minutes ago - March 11th, 2001 Steve wrote:
    The topic was off-topic from the beginning!
    Which is totally were I was going to put all this gibberish from the start.


    Yes, but, we couldn't because it was off-topic, even for the "Off Topic" forum.
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    Sooo what you are saying then is that maybe we need an off-off-off Topic - topic forum.....

    Oh that hurts my head!

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28521 43 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 ... sense that my opinion on some of this is going to get me booted... Expressing discomfort with that.


    Mary, you are not going to get booted for stating your opinion.

    Sooo what you are saying then is that maybe we need an off-off-off Topic


    Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but yes.

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28524 25 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 I think Chakra is on to something here. Off Topic Off, seems like an excellent idea. You can always branch out after that to Off Off Topic.

    Also, GT_Big Hair is excellent at translating these long giberish posts in five sentences or less. She kindly did this for me on another thread for free. However, I think on my next request she might charge me. I think you get one free and after that you have to pay.




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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28529 8 minutes ago - March 11th, 2001 Steve wrote:
    ... sense that my opinion on some of this is going to get me booted... Expressing discomfort with that.


    Mary, you are not going to get booted for stating your opinion.

    Sooo what you are saying then is that maybe we need an off-off-off Topic


    Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but yes.

    Steve


    No! Surely an off-off-off Topic gets 'booted !?!?! - after giving them a fair chance to get on-topic?

    Just stirring the mud

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28539 34 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 My last word on this.

    To ALL readers of this material, if EVER you come across a sentence like this:

    If you or any of the other children here find it too difficult to assess well researched information of science based content and if any of you feel uncomfortable with such data; then don't feel obliged to do so.


    Re-reading it, even this sentence doesn't make sense but the basic message is "please don't check our facts".
    Make it your absolute imperative order of the day to do exactly that and check every line, start from the top and start from the simplest fact.

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    #28540 34 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 Ok everybody get back on topic...oh no... I mean... what do I mean...

    Offf..Offff..Offff topic... we could have little off more off.. out there off... and then I wouldn't have to tell people to get back on topic...I like that...

    Now on that it was mentioned here somewhere that members had no control, they do, they start a topic and have the right to keep it on topic..

    This really does feel like its going nowhere..

    I just don't get it, if people have information they want to give to others the best way to do that is to give them direct access to that information, .. not go to some other place to put it out in full, give the source of the info and if people are interested in that then they can go get what they want...NOW that is the other thing there was no source given to this information... should have been, it took Steve to give that information..

    So far all I see is disruption in telling us how naughty we have been....Yes Steve an way off topic forum please, I did thnk of a good idea a little bit back that each post that was off topic could all be put in the same topic...it could be a huge off..off.. topic thread... full of everything that doesn't go together..lol..

    I vote SpaceCowboy.

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    #28545 9 minutes ago - March 11th, 2001 SpaceCowboy wrote:
    I think Chakra is on to something here. Off Topic Off, seems like an excellent idea. You can always branch out after that to Off Off Topic.

    Also, GT_Big Hair is excellent at translating these long giberish posts in five sentences or less. She kindly did this for me on another thread for free. However, I think on my next request she might charge me. I think you get one free and after that you have to pay.


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    #28548 4 minutes ago - March 11th, 2001 SpaceCowboy wrote:
    I think Chakra is on to something here. Off Topic Off, seems like an excellent idea. You can always branch out after that to Off Off Topic.


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    #28551 1 hour, 25 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 :woohoo :

    Yes wouldn't matter in the slightest if SCB is drinking... probably even necessary.

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    #28552 1 hour, 23 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 Stargazer wrote:
    SpaceCowboy wrote:
    I think Chakra is on to something here. Off Topic Off, seems like an excellent idea. You can always branch out after that to Off Off Topic.

    Also, GT_Big Hair is excellent at translating these long giberish posts in five sentences or less. She kindly did this for me on another thread for free. However, I think on my next request she might charge me. I think you get one free and after that you have to pay.


    Dude...GT is a guy....


    Ya I pm'd him on that one too....
    I think it's the beer again! lol

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    #28553 1 hour, 20 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 Lita wrote:
    :woohoo :

    Yes wouldn't matter in the slightest if SCB is drinking... probably even necessary.


    LOL - might even keep him out of trouble! you know the saying about 'idle hands' and all!

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    #28597 1 hour, 13 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011 I took my thoughts on some things off topic here:

    camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_ku...amp;Itemid=164#28596

    Hope it is helpful.

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    #28596 2 hours, 15 minutes ago - March 11th, 2011

    Many of the Myths and stories people have become familiar with have been 'spun' lol to create association in the mind when specific things are brought to conscious awareness. I wasn't going to have a cross legged sit down on the ground and point out the simple truths I see which are explained quite well in the passages which I am about to quote... but I will. The reason I will is this: It makes my stomach tie up in knots to see some of natures most beautiful creatures become so commonly referred to as if they are some kind of sick abominaton because people have come to associate what is in truth a true beauty and wonder of nature with 'terror' and superstition out of shear base programming by those who seek to keep us disconnected and afraid of our own connections to nature which though fallen to the third dimension is definitely still a miraculous part of divinity on Earth.

    Let's dis-spell some fear, shall we?

    Have you ever gone outside and really taken a look at the intricate absolute beauty that is a spider's web glistening with dew drops, reflecting rays of the suns light from each tiny bead first thing in the morning? Have you ever really looked at the actual form of a spider up close? Have you ever tried to see anything but what you were taught to see about these unusual looking little creatures which are part of Gaia?

    This is a passage from a Medicine Cards book written by Jamie Sams and David Carson. It is a very basic look from a more Native American perspective. Natives learned by closely observing creatures OUT IN NATURE~ NOT from something already written by another, but FIRST HAND.


    Spider... weaving webs of delight,
    Weave me a peaceful world.
    Carrying creation in your web,
    Waiting to be unfurled!

    Spider wove the web that brought hmans the first picture of the alphabet. The letters were part of the angles of her web.

    Deer asked spider what she was weaving and why all the lines looked like symbols. Spider replied, "Why Deer, it is time for Earth's children to learn to make records of their progress in their Earth walk." Deer answered Spider, "But they already have pictures that show through symbols the stories of their experiences." "Yes," Spider said, "But Earth's children are growing more complex, and their future generations will need to know more. The ones to come won't remember how to read the petroglyphs."

    So it was that spider wove the first primordial alphabet, as she had woven the dream of the world that had become manifest. Spider's dream of the physical world had come to fruition millions of years before.

    Spider's body is made like the number eight, consisting of two lobe like parts connected at the waist, and eight legs. Spider is the symbol for the infinite possibilities of creation. Her eight legs represent the four winds of change and the four directions on the medicine wheel.

    Spider weaves the webs of fate for those who get caught in her web and become dinner. This is similar to humans who get caught in the web of illusion in the physical world and never see beyond the horizon into other dimensions.

    The web of fate also represents a wheel of life, which does not include any alternatives or solutions. It is typically human to get caught in the polarity of good or bad fortune without realizing we can change it at any time. If we are not decisive enough about changing our lots in life, we may end up being consumed by our fears and limitations.

    ***Spider is the female energy of the creative force that weaves the beautiful designs of life. Her web has hunderds of intricate patterns which catch the morning dew.

    If spider has dropped from her web into your cards today, she can be telling you to create, create, create! Look for new alternatives to your present impasse. She can also be warning you that you are coming too close to an entangling situation...

    Spider brings a message of a different kind when she sees you becoming a bit too involved in the weaving of your life plans to notice opportunity at the outskirts of your web. If this is the case Spider gets your attention so that you notice something that you have woven has borne fruit. Congratulations! ...

    The Contrary Aspect:

    ...of Spider is akin to the negative side of woman. Spider will eat her mate if she gets too caught up in herself to see the validity of honoring male energy. The warrior at her side is a strong balancing force. If you have become disdainful of your mate (male or female) and have felt very superior lately, you are not honoring either your male or female side.

    If you are not in a relationship you may have chosen a member of your family or a workmate to harass. This type of negative criticism only breaks down relations and is a reflection of something you hate about yourself. If you are trying to feed your ego in this manner, you have lost the game. You are entangled in your own web of illusion about who you really are. It may be time to look at why you are being critical and why you are feeling so weak that you must attack others.

    If this does not apply to your situation, take a look at another message that contrary Spider medicine brings: Lack of creativity. If you fail to use your talents to get the web spinning, your lack of creativity can change into destructiveness...

    Observe Spider's web and find pleasure in the ideas you receive from her Universal language.


    End Quote.

    Hmmm, I cannot imagine why this would be something which has been spun into lies to make us afraid of our own beautiful natural powers, and that of the Divine Feminine!?!

    Also RE: ABRAXIS ( Easy enough to find online!)


    Abraxas: God or Demon?

    Author: Crick [a WitchVox Sponsor]
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    When one mentions the word “Abrasax” there are oftentimes, conflicting views which arise. To some he was seen as a God, to others as a demon, and yet to others as an amalgamation of both. And so I have endeavored to present the more commonly accepted views of Abrasax. You may know of still more interpretations not noted within this article. But at any rate as a pagan, I personally believe that we should always be students of life. And as such we should always be prepared to open the next door awaiting before us.

    Throughout the various beliefs associated with Abraxas, he was often described as having the head of a lion or in some cases a cock, which at times bore a royal crown, along with a dragon's tail, and serpents in lieu of legs. There are many interpretations attached to the word “Abrasax”.

    According to the “Basilidians”, he was the Supreme God, for the Greek letters that forms his name adds up to the number of 365, which according to their beliefs in turn corresponds to the number of days in a year. Each day of the year according to the Gnostics, represents a “circle of creation” which in turn has its own individual spirit assigned to it. Basilides was a Gnostic Christian teacher from the second century CE who taught in Alexandria Egypt.

    It is thought that when Carl Jung wrote his “Septem Sermones ad Mortuos (The Seven Sermons to the Dead) , he was in effect, paraphrasing Basilides. His treatise is in effect a three-stage development of God as understood through the eyes of humans. Very basically these three stages begin with god as a single entity who then transforms into a separation of god and devil, which then becomes a unified entity of both god and devil. The Basilidians also believe that it was Abrasax who sent Jesus Christ to do his bidding here on earth.

    The word Abraxas was the name used by the Gnostics to denote the unspeakable name of the Supreme Being. This is a practice found in other belief systems such as the Judaic practice of using the term “Yahweh” as a term for the unspeakable name for their god.

    It is established knowledge that the word Abraxas (Abrasax or Abracax) was often found engraved on certain gemstones, which were called Abraxas stones. These in turn were used as amulets or charms. Such stones contained the name “Abraxas” and/or other mystic figures and/or groups of letters.

    The initial spelling of the word as seen on the stones was "Abrasax". According to Gnostic cosmology, the seven letters spelling its name represent each of the seven planets, which within the Gnostic belief system are the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. The word Abraxas is thought by some to be the origin of the word “abracadabra”, though this word also has other sources cited as being its origin.

    The name is also found in the Gnostic text, “Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians” which in turn contains the “Holy Book of the Great Invisible Spirit”. Throughout the centuries, Abraxas has been variously described as an Egyptian god, a demon, and/or to represent God and Satan in one entity and thus the dual nature of its essence.

    The name Abraxas also is also found in the Greek Magical Papyri, which consists of the following sections:

    Source: www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=uspa&c=words&id=13588

    And... On Wiki... lol

    The word Abrasax (Gk. ΑΒΡΑΣΑΞ, which is far more common in the sources than the variant form Abraxas, ΑΒΡΑΞΑΣ) was a word of mystic meaning in the system of the Gnostic Basilides, being there applied to the “Great Archon” (Gk., megas archōn), the princeps of the 365 spheres (Gk., ouranoi).[1] In Gnostic cosmology, the 7 letters spelling its name represent each of the 7 classic planets—Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.[2]

    The word is found in Gnostic texts such as the Holy Book of the Great Invisible Spirit, and also appears in the Greek Magical Papyri. It was engraved on certain antique gemstones, called on that account Abraxas stones, which were used as amulets or charms. As the initial spelling on stones was 'Abrasax' (Αβρασαξ), the spelling of 'Abraxas' seen today probably originates in the confusion made between the Greek letters Sigma and Xi in the Latin transliteration. The word may be related to Abracadabra, although other explanations exist.

    There are similarities and differences between such figures in reports about Basilides' teaching, ancient Gnostic texts, the larger Greco-Roman magical traditions, and modern magical and esoteric writings. Opinions abound on Abraxas, who in recent centuries has been claimed to be both an Egyptian god and a demon.[3] The Swiss Psychologist Carl Jung wrote a short Gnostic treatise in 1916 called The Seven Sermons to the Dead, which called Abraxas a God higher than the Christian God and Devil, that combines all opposites into one Being.

    Lots more here at this link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas

    I could also give Snakes and "Winged Serpents" a go here if any one feels they cannot find enough info in this day and age to dis-spell the fear that has been a long running program to create fear to keep people far from the truth. I some how think I don't need to do that.

    Oh, and same with Owls... I'd be happy to help ya out there too.

    Sorry about the long post, but I felt it necessary in order to break through the over use of trigger and key phrases too commonly tossed about in error of judgment to get under some one else's skin for whatever reason people feel the need to do so.


    Hope it is helpful.

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    Abraxas: God or Demon?

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    When one mentions the word “Abrasax” there are oftentimes, conflicting views which arise. To some he was seen as a God, to others as a demon, and yet to others as an amalgamation of both. And so I have endeavored to present the more commonly accepted views of Abrasax. You may know of still more interpretations not noted within this article. But at any rate as a pagan, I personally believe that we should always be students of life. And as such we should always be prepared to open the next door awaiting before us.

    Throughout the various beliefs associated with Abraxas, he was often described as having the head of a lion or in some cases a cock, which at times bore a royal crown, along with a dragon's tail, and serpents in lieu of legs. There are many interpretations attached to the word “Abrasax”.

    According to the “Basilidians”, he was the Supreme God, for the Greek letters that forms his name adds up to the number of 365, which according to their beliefs in turn corresponds to the number of days in a year. Each day of the year according to the Gnostics, represents a “circle of creation” which in turn has its own individual spirit assigned to it. Basilides was a Gnostic Christian teacher from the second century CE who taught in Alexandria Egypt.

    It is thought that when Carl Jung wrote his “Septem Sermones ad Mortuos (The Seven Sermons to the Dead) , he was in effect, paraphrasing Basilides. His treatise is in effect a three-stage development of God as understood through the eyes of humans. Very basically these three stages begin with god as a single entity who then transforms into a separation of god and devil, which then becomes a unified entity of both god and devil. The Basilidians also believe that it was Abrasax who sent Jesus Christ to do his bidding here on earth.

    The word Abraxas was the name used by the Gnostics to denote the unspeakable name of the Supreme Being. This is a practice found in other belief systems such as the Judaic practice of using the term “Yahweh” as a term for the unspeakable name for their god.

    It is established knowledge that the word Abraxas (Abrasax or Abracax) was often found engraved on certain gemstones, which were called Abraxas stones. These in turn were used as amulets or charms. Such stones contained the name “Abraxas” and/or other mystic figures and/or groups of letters.

    The initial spelling of the word as seen on the stones was "Abrasax". According to Gnostic cosmology, the seven letters spelling its name represent each of the seven planets, which within the Gnostic belief system are the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. The word Abraxas is thought by some to be the origin of the word “abracadabra”, though this word also has other sources cited as being its origin.

    The name is also found in the Gnostic text, “Coptic Gospel of the Egyptians” which in turn contains the “Holy Book of the Great Invisible Spirit”. Throughout the centuries, Abraxas has been variously described as an Egyptian god, a demon, and/or to represent God and Satan in one entity and thus the dual nature of its essence.

    The name Abraxas also is also found in the Greek Magical Papyri, which consists of the following sections:

    Acquiring a Supernatural Assistant
    Papyri graecae magicae I.54
    Papyri graecae magicae III.1-59
    Papyri graecae magicae IV.1-25
    Papyri graecae magicae IV.1227-64
    Papyri graecae magicae IV.1716-1870 ("The Sword of Dardanos")
    Papyri graecae magicae VII.429-58
    Ecloga Ex Papyris Magicis: Liber I
    Ecloga Ex Papyris Magicis: Liber II
    Ecloga Ex Papyris Magicis: Liber III

    The Greek Magickal Papyri has to do in part with the summoning of demons and thus may be the root of the belief that Abraxas was a king of demons. Whether Abraxas was a god or a demon, I don’t know. But then I personally see demons as demigods whose comprehension and goals may not be on the same level of reality as perceived by humans. When the actions of such other worldly beings become at odds with that of humans, then humans tend to view such entities as evil or demons if you will.

    But then who commands validation in such situations? Humans who are but naïve babes in the grand scheme of things or those entities who came before us? Such a question can only be answered by each individual as pertains to their understanding or lack of such matters, beyond their immediate sense of awareness.

    It should be noted as part of this treatise on Abraxas, that in 1913 CE, Aleister Crowley wrote the “Gnostic Mass of the Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica” in which the name of Abraxas is invoked as part of this ritual. One of the interesting aspects of this OTO ritual is that it must be performed by both a HP and HPS of whom the latter is required to officiate while skyclad. You as the reader may draw your own inferences from this requirement.

    At any rate Abraxas is one of those entities that is shrouded in mystery as to origin and/or purpose. And as with such mysterious entities, there are certain attributes that may or may not be applicable. A lesson that may be drawn from this is that there truly is no right or wrong way, only that which works for the individual. Oftentimes, we as pagans are quick to cite such tenets, but then often as not, we are quick to make assumptions about what is right or wrong for others based upon one’s own comfort zone.

    If pagans are to ever create a community where those who follow a mystical path are able to coincide with others of parallel beliefs then perhaps such a lesson should be brought to the forefront of our awareness. For a problem can only be resolved if it is recognized and accepted as such, for denial only leads to more of the same.


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    #28608 10 hours, 26 minutes ago SuiGeneris wrote:
    There is no "agenda." People should really stop being so paranoid about the "dark lords" and their minions and begin looking at themselves in order to help the world "ascend" or escape the Matrix or finding out who they are...if that is their intention. [/color]


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    Greetings again from the Elders of the Worlds!

    The introductory message defines the agenda; it is as simple as that.



    I am not here to 'preach to choirs' or to 'convert' anyone.

    This was an attempt for simple data sharing F.Y.I Only.

    If this agenda was misunderstood, as it seemes to have been by overzeaolus proponents of some 'other nous' and some 'other truth and wisdom'; then we shall no longer share this information and move on to other locations, where our attempts are more appreciated.

    We so shall no longer post on these forums.

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    I am an anarchist, I could never accept to be a part of Abraxas' group defending someone else's point of view. There are certain rules that are followed as a sign of respect to the others in the community you wish to be a part of, if Abraxas wishes to be a part of this community, let him join and stand on his own merits.




    Why do you wish to label yourself within the confines of the currently established (dis)order? Given this way of thinking...your view pint can not exactly be taken as unique and progressing.....you are limiting yourself at the very start and thus...you limit your perception of things...giving them labels that keep your view point of what some call "reality" within "comfort zone" - doing everything that is "absolutely necessary" to keep things this way (this includes the love and light hypocrisy)

    And yes the community "standards" should be taken into the account while being a part of it. So perhaps if you unban his IP he might consider to join as "individual" or at least...he will be able to read. The problem with standards is that they tend to be suffocating and have their base foundation in the artificial morals..."crafted and formed"....adapted and changed...given the standards of the ruling class and methods of population control and management. Sadly people mostly take this morals as their own or part of them (confusing it with cultural thing etc nonsense)..which in fact shows the magnificent of the master planners and how easily is to hard imprint some "standard" for generations to come....the result of which is people limiting and ruling themselves...dividing themselves.....i am sure that the "architects" of it...are having a blast at watching it go on.


    The black hole mentioned at the center of the Earth is higher D not 3D. I am sure you would get answers to your questions if the poster would still be allowed to post. As far as science goes...the official one, the meta-physical one, the channeled one...etc Saying something is and something is not...i do wonder...

    What is your basis of comparison?
    Could it be what they have thought you in school at science, history and art lessons...etc ?
    Is it what you can see on the TV?
    Have you awaken your "Ba" and "Ka" to know it and such?
    How do you know what you know?
    Where does the knowing come from?
    How is your thought process formed?


    What you saw and did not like...for "some reason"...you labeled as *blatant attempt to hide the many lies within* This for example dos not offer much to work on...does it?

    What you do....unknowingly most of the time...is what i described in the first two paragraphs.

    About the computer program...what in the world are you talking about and which conspiracy does that originate from...sounds like a fun reading...so if you can provide a link...i wish to see if it can beat the "thuban space station" theory.

    Btw...the milk and cookies...was...if i am not mistaken....the answer to unplugged's sarcasm (giving him "milk" from the bible, since the "meat" might be too much for the standards)




    @The rest:


    Speaking about being "on topic" and being "off topic"....how about for the Moderators and alike...to stay on topic and not going off topic themselves with nonsense such as drunk moderating...as humerus as it might be....it has no place in this thread.

    Also it might be good to consider on why actually move the thread. Is everything that does not comply with "standards" default off topic?

    So....if it would make you feel more comfortable just simply move the thread to the "designated area". From what i read you even have (as i understand it) someone here that can translate "gibberish". It sounds profound...i especially like the money part....seems like there is a little entrepreneur here...



    If you or any of the other children here find it too difficult to assess well researched information of science based content and if any of you feel uncomfortable with such data; then don't feel obliged to do so.



    This lacks in taste. I agree. Let me try to better it: if any of you Warriors of Light, ever feel the need to throw your hammer of Poetic Justice, do so with a full splendor of your Light, speaking with the Words of Glory and with the Righteous Fury place your Hand of Reckoning upon the sinner to carry out your judgment with all the Holy Wrath.




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    #28715 54 minutes ago Btw...the milk and cookies...was...if i am not mistaken....the answer to unplugged's sarcasm (giving him "milk" from the bible, since the "meat" might be too much for the standards)



    Sarcasm was not even a thought in my mind. Please re-read. Thank you.

    This was shaping into a really great thread until it was imploded. What a pity. Arachne / Phoenix, it was obvious from your first post that there was more than one individual associated with the account. You answered with different signatures, as was appropriate. You elevated discourse and provided much food for thought.

    I regret your banishment. I found you to be uniformly polite and agreeable in your answers to me and your willingness to research and reply with USEFUL posts is/was appreciated. I never doubted my ability to decide for myself what was relevant. That power was removed from me in a moment when you were banned.

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    #28769 7 hours, 39 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 Siriusblue wrote:

    Then let each one register individually and add their light to the rainbow here.

    That is up to the Mod Police to decide. If I could “let” them, I would… but also they have to want to post here again. I don’t know if they would care to or not. What I know for a fact is that both Phoenix and Arachne are able to back up every single word they said if given the chance to or asked to.

    I am an anarchist, I could never accept to be a part of Abraxas' group defending someone else's point of view. There are certain rules that are followed as a sign of respect to the others in the community you wish to be a part of, if Abraxas wishes to be a part of this community, let him join and stand on his own merits.

    Abraxas doesn’t "have" a “group” and I am pretty sure he doesn’t want to be a part of any “community”.


    Using a “pre-prepared collection of information” as you call it, does not make anyone any more intelligent.

    My point exactly.

    And your point was? To infer he is not intelligent? You can believe what you want, but there was no “pre prepared collection of information” as termed. Seems I have to spell it out for you…. What was said before was repeated here… Why re-write what is already written?

    Although by now… I can see how that would’ve been a good idea…to make it more appropriate for the posters here…more “understandable” perhaps. However this approach would be very much like the current school systems are…watered down information made specifically for one-size-fits-all minds, and I for one don’t agree with it.


    But it was neither Phoenix nor Arachne's opinion was it. It is, from your own admission below Abraxas'.
    I stand in my own light, which for this forum I have called siriusblue. By using different names in different posts, the contributors have been changing their light at their whim. This makes it difficult for us to know who we are going to get an answer from and for what. You are reflecting like a strobe, which as you know tends to blind people. Is that the intention?

    If I’m not mistaken I used Phoenix/Abraxas before, which means they are the same person.

    If you are in fact standing in your own “light” and you are calling me a reflector, then you are calling me a mirror, so in essence you are blinding yourself with your very own “light”.


    In that case, it is not very brave or truthful of you to hide behind your strobing light as you pontificate on information you yourself admit you have not read or understood. "Crossinduce" is in your 'He's' introductory proposition on the 1st page which includes the black hole which isn't.

    I never said I did not understand. I don’t have to read absolutely everything in order to post.
    I can skip what I wish and I have a good reason to. I already answered about that specific word.



    Nor was 'he' banned from here due to his signature. In fact, his signature was never seen.

    His signature was seen: Phoenix. If you are still unsure as to why he was banned…go ask Steve.

    Abraxas? I've never heard of him before. I just did a search on Abraxas and I find this:
    "As the initial spelling on stones was 'Abrasax' (Αβρασαξ), the spelling of 'Abraxas' seen today probably originates in the confusion made between the Greek letters Sigma and Xi in the Latin transliteration." (Source: Wikipedia)

    “Abraxas” is the handle my friend used when he introduced the Thuban Q&A thread back in PA1 (first Project Avalon forum). FYI, here is the link of the original thread:
    projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18900

    The “search” of that name will not take anyone to the persona…to my friend’s mind, if the intention is to find out who that person is from where these writings come from. These searches will only take them to the possible meanings of the word itself. One of the many words he chose to use as a handle. And just to clarify…the persona is not important. He is not the author of the dispensations he writes. He is just a scribe… a translator. The author is the Logos.


    So he started in confusion, writes in confusion and ends in confusion.

    If you find yourself confused…search within and find out why.

    What was strange and bizarre in all the answers were the sudden changes in topic with no clear path leading from one point to the other. The quantity was a blatant

    Now I can see why you are confused. There is no one path. The topic changes because it must. The “truth” encompasses everything…all topics. The quantity is also a must, and I know it can be overwhelming for some, but no one said it would be easy. “By your own efforts will you be known in the kingdom of heaven.”

    attempt to hide the many lies within from being picked out and shone under the light of truth.

    There are no lies except the ones you create in your own mind. If someone is out there to lie, he or she would not make any attempt to hide it under “quantity” as you stated. Their lie would not be difficult to comprehend…on the contrary.

    Soooooooooooooo, Queen of Dragons of the House of Dragons - why post here?

    Because I want to. I use as many platforms as I can manage to gather data I consider relevant to me. If this is a free forum why can’t I post here? Does this not go against the principles of this forum?

    Members on this forum seem to me to be particularly clear sighted and keen minded, very capable seekers and if they want this information they will come to you or are already visiting your site.

    “this information” you are referring to belongs here as well.

    They are also very capable of sharing the information they think is pertinent to the discussions we are having on these boards. If they thought it important enough, they would have put your name, except you don't have one, on the suggestions for people to interview.

    You want to speculate? Ok.
    If “they” did not share “this information” it could’ve been for many reasons and not just one. Yes, one of them could be that they did come across Thuban material before and considered it not important, but also it could’ve been because “they” never heard it before. As you for example. I know my name is not on the suggestions for people to interview. Imo, Abraxas is the one who should be interviewed…if he accepts or not is up to him.


    You have come to the right place. We all like doing that here

    I have not “come” here. Camelot to me is just one of the many platforms I’ve been using (for a long time) as I stated before.

    Nooooooooooooo! I had plenty more questions and would have had no hesitation in asking. I'd only got as far as the first diagram!

    My suggestion (to all) is…if you have questions...ask them. And I don’t mean to me…you could, but I may or may not choose to answer…. What I mean is, just ask them out. Put your questions out there…not only online, but to the people around you… everywhere….but not before asking yourself first. It is also a good idea to choose your questions carefully and to know how to properly formulate them.

    The first diagram. The black hole in the center of the planet is FALSE. It cannot exist until all of earth has been squashed within the Schwarzschild Radius - Seeing as it is your Abraxas' statement that linked the black hole to the Schwarzschild radius, he and you should at least know that.
    Abraxas (so not Arachne and not Phoenix then?) also included the energy field which cannot be included in the Schwarzschild Radius - so that's another FALSE statement –

    The black hole at the core of Gaia is higher D but obvious in the Newtonian and Einstein formulation. In other words you don’t understand the science at all. The black hole is 4th dimensional, not 3-D, you are confused because you don’t read carefully and perhaps lack the science background to even question the veracity of what he is talking about.

    the word crossinduce, so liberally sprinkled into the text I was thinking of swapping it with 'mirage' to see if it made more sense, is a word that does not exist. So I presume from that, that every part which talks of CROSSINDUCING is FALSE.

    So if a word does not exist “in your world” you automatically presume that everything associated with not only that word, but its content, the form of delivery and the messenger…all is false?
    Ok. If that is the way your “reasoning” works then …………


    I'm still on the first diagram here, and that one word. So you see, I had plenty more to explore and I'm sure I would have found plenty more holes in his exposition.

    Why automatically presume that “the holes” are in the other person and never even consider that “the holes” are in you and your own perception…this is an ego problem.

    I will explore. I don't promise to believe a word of it.

    I never asked for any promise…and I don’t “believe” in beliefs.

    Especially as your Abraxas is so wrong about the Schwarzschild radius and how it works.

    He is not “MY Abraxas.” The “belief” of possession is a hindrance to human understanding and spiritual evolution. And about the science…believe what you will.

    If you had spent more time exploring this forum before posting, you would also know we are all aware of stargates,

    I “explore” this forum as much as I deem necessary. And no, I don’t HAVE to do so before posting.

    I am sorry if I sound harsh or “too radical” or whatever when I say the following, but I will express my mind and will try to do so as softly as I can:

    I really don’t like talking to someone who always talks saying “we”. This to me is a clear sign of what I call “group mentality” and I sincerely dislike it. Especially when making statements about general points of view or talking about opinions. For example: Above Siriusblue said “all”…so I ask: Who is this “all” exactly? All registered members? All posters?...because some registered members never post. All including the lurkers/guests? The friends you’ve made so far within the registered members?
    You cannot say “all” are aware of Stargates because that is simply not true.

    I know why many talk this way. I know the reason. I know why humans have the need to belong to a group or a community and this way of thinking is deeply ingrained in their minds. So much so, that they “see” it everywhere (in the case of Thuban), project it everywhere and they talk about it unconsciously.

    Unfortunately, this appears to be the norm as far as forums go nowadays…and so, the founders, mods and posters alike may contribute to this “our forum” mentality if not careful, making the decision more difficult for someone who does not think this way… to post here.

    If that someone has something magnificent to share…. then no one benefits and everyone loses. I am sure Kerry would agree with me when I say that forums like Project Camelot have to “be” in benefit of ALL, including the people who read and never bring themselves to make their first post because the environment feels like it is an "exclusive club". Just read this comment made earlier by Arctourist:

    so you don't like them,so i guess we're gonna be an exclusive club after all huh?

    Arctourist is right in his intuition.

    we know there are more than one on this planet and they are not in the core! There may be one in the core, but it wouldn't serve much purpose would it seeing as it could not be used to travel or communicate information unless specifically for whatever creatures can only live in the environment that exists in the core, and that is not the same as the environment on the crust... obviously.

    It is. It is “used to travel and communicate information” as you say, and it is not specifically for inner earth people (whatever creatures lol) that inhabit this planet in higher D.

    when wanting to share information, it is best to stick to words people know and understand so that everyone is on the same footing.

    I’ve come to realize that what you suggest here only works on certain instances and it also depends on the type of information it is. It is my opinion that ALL information should be openly shared, in fact right now it is, as all on Gaia are right now experiencing the time of the Apocalypse.

    “Some data” however, cannot be forced upon as it needs to be reached for and attained by one’s own efforts. It cannot be explained to anyone else. However, once it is reached, it becomes the person and the person becomes it. If one ask someone that has reached understanding to explain it to me, to explain what or why or how…most likely they can’t. And even if they do, it may not be fitted to me for it will have their own point of perception in it. They can only give clues and guidance…but they cannot “do it” for me.


    If you think 'it' means 'being altered', then maybe you could suggest to Abraxas he use that term instead.

    I won’t because I agree with his usage of this word, however, when I am in disagreement and I feel it is appropriate to state it and desire an answer, I always let him know.

    A matrix, a maze, a web... web is usually followed by the words 'of lies' or 'of deceipt'.

    So? Sometimes it is used that way yes. But a web is a web is a web… words have many meanings but they are important because they carry content…energy. The energy you give them and the energy in which you perceive them ultimately determines the meaning. If you want to see
    “a web of deceit” everywhere… that is what you’ll get.


    The mish-mash is your Abraxas' own creation. Selectively answering on key words he's pasted into your out-of-date computer program. I particularly enjoyed it when your machine picked up on 'milk' in unplugged's answer. That was really bizarre.

    There is no computer program… that is utterly ridiculous.

    It's nice talking to a person Sui, and one who has the guts to stand up for the Abrasax-Arachne-Phoenix trio.

    There is no trio. I hope that at least by now, you have the Phoenix/Abraxas thing sort out.

    Tell me more about your Queen of Dragons status, I am curious.


    I am Xeia, DragonQueen of the realms… among other names I bestow on myself.

    I guess I could explain to you what that means, but this is a public forum and I feel my persona as well as my particulars is not really important for “the whole world” to know. Still, I do talk about myself…with who I consider my close friends…If they ask me with purity in their hearts and with the right intention… I do open up to them and tell them everything I know and everything about me.

    In the overall scheme of things, the only really important thing to know is who you are yourself. What others think of you and what you think of others is irrelevant.


    With Love and In Love,


    Sui

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28775 7 hours, 17 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 Stargazer wrote:
    2 people were logging into the same account in 2 different countries and posting at the same time.

    This is against Camelot's policy of 1 user ...1 account.


    I have reviewed your guidelines...but I must have missed it.

    Would you please paste here the excerpt where it states 1 user 1 account?

    Thank you very much,



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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28784 6 hours, 32 minutes ago - March 112th, 2012 SuiGeneris wrote:
    Stargazer wrote:
    2 people were logging into the same account in 2 different countries and posting at the same time.

    This is against Camelot's policy of 1 user ...1 account.


    I have reviewed your guidelines...but I must have missed it.

    Would you please paste here the excerpt where it states 1 user 1 account?

    Thank you very much,



    Sui


    Sui...u r focusing on the negatives...

    U missed the part where it could be worked out

    Please don't use MOD and Police in the same sentence.....that's not who we are....Peace SG




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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28807 5 hours, 16 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 unplugged wrote:
    Btw...the milk and cookies...was...if i am not mistaken....the answer to unplugged's sarcasm (giving him "milk" from the bible, since the "meat" might be too much for the standards)


    Sarcasm was not even a thought in my mind. Please re-read. Thank you.

    This was shaping into a really great thread until it was imploded. What a pity. Arachne / Phoenix, it was obvious from your first post that there was more than one individual associated with the account. You answered with different signatures, as was appropriate. You elevated discourse and provided much food for thought.

    I regret your banishment. I found you to be uniformly polite and agreeable in your answers to me and your willingness to research and reply with USEFUL posts is/was appreciated. I never doubted my ability to decide for myself what was relevant. That power was removed from me in a moment when you were banned.

    yeah!
    well what i mean is-what she said-pretty much
    so i think everyone should just kinda start over-let's introduce ourselves again-
    hey how's the weather-how many people here are in florida,for instance? it's snowy'n'slushy tonight in michigan-who's in michigan? i bet we got people here from everywhere-who's here,right?




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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28814 4 hours, 51 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 wait!
    i mean,can you maybe come back,under a different name,names aren't so important
    i always thought sting was a cool name
    until there was this wrestler with that name i think
    and then i was like oh no way right?




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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28817 4 hours, 35 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 arctourist wrote:
    yeah!
    well what i mean is-what she said-pretty much
    so i think everyone should just kinda start over-let's introduce ourselves again-
    hey how's the weather-how many people here are in florida,for instance? it's snowy'n'slushy tonight in michigan-who's in michigan? i bet we got people here from everywhere-who's here,right?

    hehe... i see what you're saying arctourist, but don't you think that this type of exchange...chit chat is better fitted for like... say....a Skype chat?

    arctourist wrote:
    wait!
    i mean,can you maybe come back,under a different name,names aren't so important
    i always thought sting was a cool name
    until there was this wrestler with that name i think
    and then i was like oh no way right?

    LOL you're funny!


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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28820 4 hours, 17 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 everytime i stop into the chatroom there's never anyone there
    i still try-
    maybe we'll meet there sometime-




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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28822 3 hours, 59 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 arctourist wrote:
    everytime i stop into the chatroom there's never anyone there
    i still try-
    maybe we'll meet there sometime-
    I created a Skype chat room for The Mists of Avalon Forum not too long ago. Perhaps it would be a good idea to create one for Project Camelot as well. The creator, whoever decides to do it, would have to make a post here in this forum giving their Skype name and he or she will have to add the members as they come... just a suggestion.

    Arctourist, I personally do not like to chat anywhere else other than in Skype, so you can add me if you want.


    Cheers,



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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28825 3 hours, 34 minutes ago - March 12th, 2011 Stargazer wrote:
    Sui...u r focusing on the negatives...

    U missed the part where it could be worked out

    Please don't use MOD and Police in the same sentence.....that's not who we are....Peace SG

    Actions speak louder than words Stargazer.

    Sure I’ll stop utilizing them in the same sentence when the mods here stop policing. However, isn't this something a policeman would say as soon as you roll down your window and right before he issues you a traffic ticket?:
    "I've just been waiting to catch you both in the act and now I caught you both."
    Even if he doesn't say it...he sure is thinking it...while laughing inside giving you a semi-smile...

    Which brings me to this:


    Sure we have mods, but mostly they just move threads to it's correct categories and stuff like that, we hardly have to tell someone off or ban anyone.

    And we are all in for second chances and warnings if someone crosses the line, and if anyone get's banned (I can count all bans on one hand) it is only for 30 days, and sometimes not even that long, we are always up for a private discussion to sort things out if anyone wants to.

    Just Tommy's piece of mind on things


    This is an excerpt of a post you'll find here:
    www.themistsofavalon.net/t1186p45-messag...t-avalon-forum#21069

    I'll hold you to your word Tommy...so I expect you to un-ban my friends on April 9th 2011...the latest.

    Even if they don't ever come back to post here...they should be unbanned on principle.
    The number 9 means completion...and it would be more than appropriate that their more than unjust ban be complete by then.

    Especially since they were not given any prior warning of their possible ban, or were ever offered the possibility of a private discussion to "sort things out".

    See, I never focus on negatives Stargazer. I look at the positive side of everything…and I’ve gone into great debates assuring that absolutely everything has one. But that is another issue.

    Let’s refocus now, and see the possibilities….

    There’s still a chance for redemption for your “mod group” for if you do the right thing and stick to transparency, you will be no longer... "the Mod Police."

    Now that's what i call positive thinking.

    With anticipation,



    Sui

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    Re: The Secret of the Extraterrestrial Life

    #28826 3 hours, 4 minutes ago - March 12tyh, 2011 Dammit! Every time my sense of humor pops out, it is so baaad that I have to keep it to myself!!!


    Unfortunately sometimes a point by point is necessary to get off the easy 'spin' factor and to the truth so people can move forward. The fact I don't have time for a pissing contest to keep things straight when someone does not like what I say is why I almost did not join. I have confidence in the Admin's abillity to remain of sound rational discernment.

    I have seen some things over the last while (not from Admin) that made me think of rent a cops or unarmed security guards... or even the TSA Pat down...

    Disagree fine, but why the need for condescension? You cannot learn being that way. And EVERYONE has still got learning to do.

    I think of the big guys as the "Super Troopers" of the bunch, personally... (Troopers have the 'power' the others wish they had out on the streets.) And they look Hot in the Super Trooper Uniform with the badge and big guns... TEE HEE. lmao

    You have to have some sort of structure, and this is proven on every forum that is not a one mind personality cult forum. (terms used very loosely but I think you know what I mean) People can just not get along with others for long if they do not agree with every single idea. They resort to name calling and insults. Sad really.

    I thought the whole point of anarchy was to have no rules??? Maybe I better wiki it, Lol.

    Can't we all just get along???

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