hippihillbobbi wrote:SuiGeneris wrote:Carmen wrote:I dont analyze to death the person delivering the message, its the quality, integrity of the info that counts, not the personality delivering it!
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Carmen
I agree. I recieved very profound insight and guidance from a peruvian shaman once. At first I did not know who he was or even that he was a very wise elder. He was just a very old man who just happened to be at my family's house at that time acompanying his son who had business to do with my father. He was sitting at the corner of the couch, looking out into an inner garden and had the most serene look in his eyes. I was about 13 at the time and as always was very curious and approached him, smiled at him and sat right across from him. He smiled back and asked me: "Do you have questions?" I told him: "Yes, many!" and then he started answering all my questions.
He was very old, his clothes were not fancy for they were considered "poor" people, and I remember looking at his hands with much interest...they were wrinkled and very rough. I'd never seen hands like that. If you were to pass by him on the street, you would probably think he was common indigenous person and not even give him a second look. I had a very lengthy conversation with him and when the time came that he had to leave, my dad told me he was actually a very important shaman in his own town back in his province. He shook my hand to say goodbye and gave me a smile I'll never forget. His energy was so strong!!
You can find great wisdom in common everyday people. Jesus said "The meek shall inherit the Earth" and I think that's absolutely true.
I also don't care much who brings it or where the message comes from. I care for the message itself. It's vibration. Something very interesting happened with the Thuban material in this sense. People trying to find out who this mesenger was, what actual dimension he came from....what was his "real" 3D identity and so on....all in order to give his message some "credibility." Well, to me it's the other way around. First I listen, and then listen some more. God only gave us one mouth and two ears, so maybe we should do more listening than talking. If the messege is sound and so I find it useful I keep it...no matter where it comes from, being it a channel, a shaman, a child, an ET, or in Abraxas' case a walk-in from the 12th Dimension!
Love,
SuiG♥
SuiG--
Thanks so much for sharing your story about encountering the Shaman and for reminding us that often we may be in the presence of
inauspicious angels! i also
tend to agree with you in regard to placing the emphasis on the
quality/resonance of the message rather than on the
personality or the particular form the messenger represents (e.g., channeled source, enlightened human, etc.)
but, having said that, i
would like to ask you if you think this should be
an absolute separation -- between our discenrment re: the message and messenger -- or if it's s
omewhat more relative. iow -- say one knows the messenger on a personal level and one observes behavior that is inconsistent with the nature of the message (e.g., the message is "love" yet the messenger in 3D seems NOT to be demonstrating love consistently in her/his day-to-day 3D reality .... in his/her most intimate relationships with family, friends, etc.) .... does this
incongruency between the message and messenger necessarily
dilute or invalidate the "purity" of the message??? i know there is more than one instance in Christian Scriptures where Jesus is portrayed as acting less than our typical understanding of "nice," (words about his family, calling Peter a
Satan, etc.). but still .... on a simple human level ..... this does seem
disconcerting at the very least. what do you think about this, SuiG??? i'd really appreciate your (and anyone else's comments) about this.
love,
hippihillbobbi
p.s.
Great Thread!